>only supports up to x4300 pixels

>only supports up to x4300 pixels

>larger file size than JPEG XL unless you rape the image quality to 0.4 BPP (that's when the pixels can be easily counted)

Why has Google been supporting AVIF instead of JPEG XL? Google even funds the development of JPEG XL.

Nothing Google.does makes sense.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's better at non-photographic stuff (ie anime) which is a pretty big thing on the internet. As far as I know jpeg xl can't produce high quality anime images under 100KB like AVIF can.

    4k AVIF under 100KB
    https://files.catbox.moe/ycknht.avif

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >raping the image quality is good
      Great argument, Daiz bot

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Open the image you drooling moron, it's high quality.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          a cartoon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you drooling moron
          That's funny coming from someone using a bot to spam moronic nonsense on IQfy to brainwash newbies into accepting a shitty format that only supports up to x4300 pixels and has to rape the quality to get 1 KB less than JXL.

          Does Google pay you? Or do you hope they'll notice you and pay you because the millions of dollars you've made in profit from scamming artists weren't enough to sate your hunger for wealth?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're confusing me with someone else. Unlike these monkeys I'm not going around pretending to be daiz.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Only a newbie who doesn't understand what an archive is and wasn't on IQfy before you took your tripcode off will.fall for your samegayging

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't even know who this "daiz" even is. This guy is living RENT FREE inside your noggin lmao.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that may as well be an svg it has so little detail

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        okay? Anyway the point is unless anime dissapears from the internet (LOL) AVIF is going to be taken more seriously than jpeg xl.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ill be fine using av1 for anime videos and lossless jxl for anime photos then

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How does that even relate to the op. You really are a bot holy shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ACK

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon,i live in Brazil and i have 500Mbps download.AVIF only has advantages in the size range that doesn't matter even for turd worlders.

      Even ruralgays can get Starlink,this push makes no sense.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bandwidth costs for users have nothing to do with bandwidth costs for websites. Just because you have fast internet doesn't mean websites can send you content at those speeds.

        IQfy is a perfect example of this. When demand is high it's commom for things to load at less than 8Mbps.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is why all normal image formats support progressive loading, unlike AVIF

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Progressive isn't really necessary with AVIF because of thumnbnail quality. In fact this alone could make it possible to save even more bandwidth than previously imagined since many people won't even bother loading the full-res image.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            imagine if you can get people to turn off images, it will save even more bandwidth

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            harr harr but look it up, 1080p AVIF images under 10KB

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        High internet speed, low IQ.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        JXL was so ahead of its time... this is what google took from us

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          PNG was so ahead of its time... this is what google took from us

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >made up bullshit example
        Nobody browses the web with 5kbs and if they did they would block images anyway. 99% of internet connections are so fast you couldn't even tell if something was progressive or not because it loads within 0.2 milliseconds.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thumbnails also exist, which AVIF absolutely dominates in anyway. I don't see the benefit in loading full-res images before clicking on them either, especially if there's a lot of them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >AVIF
            >Thumbnails
            any other advice on how to rape your CPU?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >AVIF images below 0.1 BPP
            >raping your CPU
            lolwut

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >muh thumbnails
            Watching you go more insane to defend a shitty format is hilarious, Daiz

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can't deny that jpeg xl is UTTERLLY and COMPLETELY ultra dogshit at thumbnails. AVIF just hands down obliterates jpeg xl when it comes to thumbnails.

            Also when thumbnail quality goes up there's going to be less and less people downloading the full res images. That's an obscene amount of bandwidth savings right there.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ultra dogshit at thumbnails
            It's actually ok at that too. Better than JPEG which, as it turns out, was used for thumbnails in a few places like... here.

            But you'd presumably still use avif for that if you used both, sure. And JPEG XL for most other uses.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NOPE, it's dogshit. Show me 1080p jpeg xl images under 10KB. You can't and anything over 10KB is extremely bloated for a thumbnail.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon thumbnails are like 125-300 pixels squared or something. 1080p+ is a full image not a thumbnail.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's the point, users would be presented with a full "image" instead of a shitty low resolution thumbnail. In otherwords the website would load in less than a second because loading the full resolution images would be optional.

            Also there's no law preventing those 1080p under 10KB from being scaled to 540p/270p "thumbnails.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No one wants to view (near) full screen with 10kB thumbnail quality size bitmap images. It's only for actual thumbnails or when simple vector graphics actually work for the purpose in question.

            What you need to do is load such full screen images progressively, they appear at 10kB but get pretty good at their 1080p to 8k+ resolution at 80-500kB and finish loading whenever they're done loading.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh goodie, 10-20 jpeg xl images progressively loading. That doesn't sound like it will set my phone CPU on fire or anything.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Anon

            That's Daiz, newbie. And don't bother arguing with the narcissist.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Muh 100KB
      Nobody cares.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Money talks.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A photo encoded at the median bitrate of the internet.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Money talks.

          harr harr but look it up, 1080p AVIF images under 10KB

          You can't stop lying and contradicting yourself, Daiz

          Your over ten years of scamming porn addicts have fricked your perception

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Every single post is Daiz
            Meds, NOW.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >moronic newbie is illiterate

            have a nice day, NOW.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >low detail and not even anime
      Frick off

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >AVIF should be adopted because it's the only format that will let anime boorus rape the quality of the images
    >You're a schizo if you disagree

    What did Daiz mean by this?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OPEN.
      The.
      AVIF.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For our newfriends, the OP is Daiz who is behind every single AVIF shill post.

    If you think AVIF is good, you've been groomed by Daiz and shouldn't get mad when someone thinks you're him.

    He stopped using his trip code after someone looked into an archive and discovered that he's behind every AVIF shill post, something that he genuinely didn't expect anyone to do.

    Expect lots of samegayging from the narcissist.

    Also, he's robably not getting paid by Google.

    Before he got called out:
    https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/avif/end/2024-02-24/

    Getting called out:
    https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/99167108

    Aftermath:
    https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/avif/start/2024-02-25/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also, Daiz has for over a decade been using a bot to look at every new post every second and ping him when it finds a post mentioning his name or a certain word hence his quick response to new posts.

      Further more, you'd be a fool.to think he hasn't outsourced his spam to something like ChatGPT.

      There's an old saying on IQfy that mentioning his name or a certain word is like a summoning ritual for the devil.

      https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/daiz%20summoning/order/asc/

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can you please not try to fight pixDAIZ's schizophrenia with your own schizophrenia?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ANYONE interested in codecs benefiting anime are not classified as "daiz" it seems. Everyone is too chickenshit to start AV1 threads for fear of being labeled as "daiz".

      This board is full of COWARDS.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You shut up too. I'm not your friend in shilling AV1. I don't want to deal with your bullshit any more than I want to deal with his.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        okay? Anyway the point is unless anime dissapears from the internet (LOL) AVIF is going to be taken more seriously than jpeg xl.

        It's better at non-photographic stuff (ie anime) which is a pretty big thing on the internet. As far as I know jpeg xl can't produce high quality anime images under 100KB like AVIF can.

        4k AVIF under 100KB
        https://files.catbox.moe/ycknht.avif

        >anime
        Nobody cares, pixdaiz, and how KYS yourself

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not him but you're utterly deranged. The website your on primarily cares about anime so why would you say something this stupid here?

          If you're an avif shill trying to make jpeg xl look bad then you are doing an excellent job thos albeit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, you're utterly deranged for saying AVIF should be accepted because raping the image quality is what anime.fans.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AVIF is shit compared to JPEG XL.

    JPEG XL is better at:
    >lossless compression
    >lossy compression >1 bpp (which is 99% of pictures)
    >lossless recompressing of JPEGs (the most prevalent format, including all photos made by any phone/camera that's not the iphone)
    >web use because of progressive decoding
    >encoding speed

    AVIF is better at:
    >lossy compression <1 bpp (mostly irrelevant in the real world)
    >animations (as it's a video codec)

    So we can keep AVIF around for animations and thumbnails and JPEG XL for normal graphics and photos

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't the whole point of these new image formats to save bandwidth? See

      It's better at non-photographic stuff (ie anime) which is a pretty big thing on the internet. As far as I know jpeg xl can't produce high quality anime images under 100KB like AVIF can.

      4k AVIF under 100KB
      https://files.catbox.moe/ycknht.avif

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not completely. It's also to have colorspaces, layers and color bit depth that match real current and future camera sensors for example... yes also with good lossless or lossy compression in the image format standard as handling that with a second set of tools was always shitty for the actual workflows.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's 0.4 bpp, the difference between 1.0 and 0.4 is massive.

      You're also denying that AVIF doesn't have a limit of 4k pixels.

      You're an AVIF shill.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a JPEG-XL shill because JPEG 2000 and XT got unfairly shafted and the format family deserves justice.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    JPEG XL > AVIF > JPEG > WEBP

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol even jpeg and webp beat AVIF because they support more than 4k pixels

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then why am I looking at an 8000x8000 AVIF right now?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That anon is wrong, the actual limit is 8193 pixels.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            kek

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            AVIF splits the image into chunks when it has more than 8k pixels. A spaghetti of patches.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn't Daiz go to boorus and rape the quality of images because that's what anime fans want and AVIF isn't the only format that can rape quality

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why haven't Daiz raped boorus like Danbooru yet? He said anime fans want to look at bit starved pictures.

    Why doesn't he do what he believes in?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      see

      It's better at non-photographic stuff (ie anime) which is a pretty big thing on the internet. As far as I know jpeg xl can't produce high quality anime images under 100KB like AVIF can.

      4k AVIF under 100KB
      https://files.catbox.moe/ycknht.avif

      That doesn't look high quality to you?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody cares about anime

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    JewXL will never ever see the light of day again so why are you keep talking about it? It was tried and it failed horribly in real life scenarios compared to AVIF, so it got removed again for good. Let it rest already and learn from its mistakes and try to create a better format from it that can actually beat AVIF outside of your headcanon. You could have already made this new format if you weren't too busy shilling a dead format all the time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See how every time someone explains the situation logically the shills suddenly disappear to let the thread die just to create a new one two hours later

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        JewXL will never ever see the light of day again so why are you keep talking about it? It was tried and it failed horribly in real life scenarios compared to AVIF, so it got removed again for good. Let it rest already and learn from its mistakes and try to create a better format from it that can actually beat AVIF outside of your headcanon. You could have already made this new format if you weren't too busy shilling a dead format all the time.

        see [...]

        That doesn't look high quality to you?

        Your bot doesn't reply to posts properly, Daiz. It just posts the same shit. Is that by design or do you not know how to make a bot?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ill support the first one that gets mpv screenshot support with hdr metadata.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      JXL does that

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well, it doesn't matter how good jxl is, google will push avif on everyone anyway

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >AVIF is better because everyone wants to see three colors and doesn't need more.than x4000 pixels

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do you encode an AVIF?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lazy way is with gimp but official way is to use AOM in ffmpeg. It's better to run JPGs through waifu2x denoiser before compressing.

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