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>Jesus preaches hope, love, redemption, confession, peace, and forgiveness to all mankind
>Kills Ananias and Sapphira mercilessly for lying to Peter about a real estate sale
>Freewill be damned

What made Jesus turn into OT bloodthirsty God again? I thought his lust for murder was quenched by Jesus

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Lying to God
    Deserved it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What if the next day they would have repented? God didn't even give them a chance, he just merked their asses instantly and sent them to Hell. Obviously we are misunderstanding something about this event or something about repentance in general.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What if, and I'm spitballing here, it didn't happen? The depiction of the early Church in acts is a fabrication, the creation of an idyllic early state where everyone gave their wealth over to the leaders and God punishing those withholding even a little bit was enough to scare the shit out of gullible followers.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody was forcing them or compelling them to make such a huge charitable donation. They chose to dishonestly withhold some of the marked donation so that they could still get the credit of being true disciples, while secretly not living in poverty like everyone else. They tried to trick God, so He decided they should explain themselves to Him directly.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not even Judas himself was treated so harshly though.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Instant, painless death is harsh
            You haven't really thought about the alternatives

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He was treated worse. Has to be chewed up by Satan with only Brutus and Cassius keeping him company.
            Source: Dante's Inferno

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I thought God doesn’t interfere with freewill. Why doesn’t he kill more people for lying to him? Why did Jesus beat the money changers in the temple instead of killing them?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can't will yourself to immortality. You will die when God sees fit.
            >Why did Jesus
            He decided to

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But he killed them in direct retaliation for exercising their freewill. The Christian response to “Why doesn’t God kill evildoers?” is always freewill.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No one is free from Judgement

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How can you be judged if God kills you?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is this a serious question?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That is judgement

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is this a serious question?

            So why didn’t God kill Adam & Eve instantly upon eating the cursed fruit?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Didn’t happen

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They never lied about doing it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So lying to God gets you killed instantly?

            But Cain, Sarah, Peter, Judas, and Achan all lied to God as well.

            They died spiritually

            So he was just being a sick frick then?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All were punished
            >Peter
            Peter never lied to God. He denied Him thrice and punished himself for his own weakness. Peter loved Jesus, there was no need to punish him

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They died spiritually

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You can't will yourself to immortality
            Sounds like it ain't so free then

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shouldn't almost the whole Vatican and drop dead if that was the case? So much pedo priests, Freemasons, etc.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sinful clergymen are under no delusions that God isn't fully aware of what they're doing

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So Ananias and his b***h died because they didn't believe in god's omniscience?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty much, and they decided to put it to the test for personal gain

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >sent them to Hell
        source?
        whats up with people who cant realize that physical punishments =/= eternal punishments?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So you're saying she just did a speedrun and pissed God off enough to get smote and go to heaven?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not even murderers, paedophiles and politicians are arrogant enough to think they can deceive the LORD

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the only reason it's deception is because god made it to be so. that homie got some quirky ass vision

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >So you're saying she just did a speedrun and pissed God off enough to get smote and go to heaven?
            yes
            the Bible talks about degrees of reward in heaven.
            not every believer has the same rank of eternal glory, despite going to heaven.
            Christians nominally believe in an actual coming resurrection where resurrected believers will basically rule the world in collaboration with Christ; the idea of rewards varying according shouldnt be shocking; but it seems every time a believer receives punishment, people want to default to thinking they lost* their salvation.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        God knows if someone will repent in the future or not, we dont.
        Also this passage is good to debunk the marcionite heresy that says the OT and NT are different gods.

        What if, and I'm spitballing here, it didn't happen? The depiction of the early Church in acts is a fabrication, the creation of an idyllic early state where everyone gave their wealth over to the leaders and God punishing those withholding even a little bit was enough to scare the shit out of gullible followers.

        People participated willingly. Peter himself says that to Ananias, paraphrasing - why are you lying, if we didnt even demand you to give anything?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lying to god
      lying to the paleo-bolshevik organization.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You dare prevent me, an all-knowing being, from knowing the truth?
      >THAT'S IT! MAGIC FIRE IT IS!

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus was a israelite so trying to pull a real estate scam on him would be like trying to murder his whole family.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ananias and Sapphira
    Typical treacherous liar boomer parents

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they were punished for not being good communists

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dead
      Looks like they're good communists after all

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What made Jesus turn into OT bloodthirsty God
    Always has been. Your fault for falling for sissy Gnostic lies

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's obvious Peter killed them. You'd have to be an idiot to believe they were struck down by God when they were alone in a room with Peter after, in Peter's mind, cheating his church out of money.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Acts 5:10 RV1895
      [9] But Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and they shall carry thee out.

      [10] And she fell down immediately at his feet, and gave up the ghost: and the young men came in and found her dead, and they carried her out and buried her by her husband.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."
    Christ is the same God as OT God. Love your neighbor but that doesn't change the fact God's righteous anger is a thing.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >God reveals this amazing vision of the future to Moses and all of his promises
    >chapter later we're told that God for some reason meets with Moses at night and tries to kill him
    >God's attempt is somehow foiled by Moses's wife circumcising their son

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You misunderstood that passage entirely. God starts to get ready to kill Pharaoh's son, and in the next verse it cuts to Moses holding his son while being circumcised.

      "And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
      23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.
      24 And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the LORD met him, and sought to kill him."

      Verse 22-24 makes a complete thought. The Lord meets the firstborn of Pharaoh by the inn right after telling Moses what to say to the Pharaoh warning about how his firstborn son is going to die.

      "25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.
      26 So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision."

      Now we cut to a different scene, which is apparently happening at around the same time. Moses is holding his own son down while Zipporah performs the circumcision.

      When verse 26 says "he let him go," it's referring to Moses letting his son go. The word "husband" is the nearest antecedent for the word "he" in verse 26. Some less literal modern translations (like the NIV) bungle this passage by assuming "he" is referring to God when it actually isn't.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think your interpretation is wrong because I see the death of Pharaoh's firstborn as being dependent on Moses having spoken the words that God taught him, to Pharaoh

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did Jesus kill them? Did they deserve it?

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People actually believe in this moronic shit lmao. Dumb mfs have killed and died and continue to kill and die over this, really

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God's a Godfather. He takes no shit from no mortal.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    when i was a young man and went to confession, i was so ashamed of my sin i said "i don't remember" when the priest asked me about it.
    thinking back, i basically did the same thing they did, and... well, nothing happened. lol.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not the same thing at all. You were confessing but gave into embarrassment. They were actively lying and giving into greed

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        doesn't matter why i did it.
        i did it and i should've been struck by magic lightning the second i did.
        remember the story about the man who carried ark of the covenant and tripped?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >'nothing happened.'
      To your soul it did. Go and confess it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        am athiest

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      S. John 3:16 RV1895
      [16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He just created the two just to watch them have sex, and then discarded them like a tissue paper after fap.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Away from me, Satan

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not my fault he created those two for no good reason.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Literally me

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >we're actually gonna BTFO christians by forcing 60 hours of bible study a week on them

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They went to heaven if that means something to you.

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