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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Goyim shouldn't be taught computer science
    > or engineering
    > or math
    > that will ensure conso-
    > I-I mean, future economic success!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >spend years studying obsolete knowledge in colleges taught by boomers
      >try to find a job
      >realize most of jobs have been automated away , offshored and few ones are left to best of the best
      >your now a useless incel who knows how to do basic coding and mathematics that can be done by computers
      >no girl wants you
      >suicide is only option

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >mathematics that can be done by computers
        Could've been done for the last what, 70 years. So it's already safe to make assumptions about the math coexistence with computers.
        >basic coding
        It's not going to be a stranded asset unless it becomes a basic asset, like writing that everyone can do. Nocoders will have to check after GPT to ensure it's not BSing, every last one of them, or no job for you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How does it feel that u spent your college years studying and missing out on teenage pussy . Must suck

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >missing out on teenage pussy
            legal in my country for about 50 bucks

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I would say STEM pussy is much better than non-STEM pussy!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Couldn't be stressed enough.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I want theoretical physicist 180 IQ GF, but they are almost non-entity in postdoc environments.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >missing out
            But why would you miss out tho? Just rail the chicks from medicine/biochem, they're always stressed out and busy with studies so they'll put out quickly, cause they've got shit to do.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >missing out on teenage pussy
            You were either born with chad genes or you weren't. Studying has nothing to do with it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            feels liberating

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            pedophile

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >18-19
            >pedo
            Why are Americans like this?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            psyopped by women, they believe the age of consent should be about 30

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I thought it was numales on twitter and rddit who think that. The average American male surely doesn’t believe that

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I barely studied in college because I'm not a moron and I also didn't do some gay CS/IT degree that doesn't have to do calc 1-3/diffeq.
            Sorry to hear that you're both a dipshit and a virgin, that sounds like a miserable existence.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Someone has to understand the math, even if computers can do the symbolic and numerical computations. Same with programming. You can't auto generate millions of lines of code that nobody understands.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >go to college
        >incel
        Couldn't get laid at college? lol nice projection virgin-kun

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >suicide is only option
        And the problem is?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>no girl wants you
        is only option
        just be more attractive, good looking neets can frick all they want.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon the only option is to find your own project to venture into
        Other than that, don't go to work not worth while lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Better not tell you about all the legacy systems running Fotran and Pascal.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the are legacy systems running IQfy?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >no girl wants you, suicide is the only option
        You can still pick up hobbies or something. And none of this would be an issue if you became a programmer due to your passion for programming itself. That is its own reward. If you were just in it for the money there's more obviously lucrative fields that can't be replaced, especially trades or physical labors that require some education. If you're in debt with no other options for this education, you'll need to get creative. It CAN be done, it will be hard and full of tears, but you must challenge yourself.

        If you have any family or friends who value you, then it's worth it to try. If you don't have any of such, there are people out there just like you who want you to make it, and who are also looking for friends - like yourself. You are not alone, don't isolate yourself.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hes obviously being hyperbolic you over sentimental moron

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I know (I think). The oversentimental moronation is for the large amount of people who actually believe this about themselves. For all we know, anon could be couching his insecurity behind jokes, as people often do.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >who knows how to do basic coding and mathematics that can be done by computers
        What the hell are you doing in /g when you're this illiterate? ChatGPT is a glorified search engine. Last week i had to fix 3 issues in productive environments, because some pajeet copy pasted chatgpt code directly.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >productive environments
          lel
          you mean PRODUCTION environments?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yup you got it. now do it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >knows how to code
        >can't figure out how to exploit that for money
        dumb cattle needs to be spoonfed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      Mentally ill moron go where you belong

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]

        post nose right now

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is not enough jobs. Instead of sending my kids to public school I'll teach them math, reading, and writing at home, and have them train martial arts from eight to eighteen, so they can be martial art instructors. Gotta make your own work.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    STOP WORKING FROM HOME GOY
    YOU'RE MAKING MY OFFICE REAL STATE ASSETS LOSE VALUE FASTER THAN A PAJEET CAN TURN HIS BREAKFAST INTO DIARRHEA

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >over
    still need scrumlords, wireless network cable managers, kanban deck shufflers, project name changers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dibs on the logo

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey man, I already jumped on the SAFe Agile (tm) 6.0 bullshit bandwagon, and you should too.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >science
    what the frick is AI going to do here, except make it easier to find things worth researching? tbh i'd argue that if anything AI will massively increase the scope of microscopic biology and chemistry, might actually finally see some serious big boy biology, well into the realm of horrors beyond our comprehension
    >engineering
    even if AI can replace coders (realistically, only replacing the bottom tier), an AI isn't going to replace the tardwrangling plant engineer any time soon (which is basically 80k starting guaranteed, any city you want; not amazing, but not terrible considering the absolute triviality of obtaining and keeping the job), more serious engineering tasks are even less afraid
    >mathematics
    how the frick is this not abstract? are they confusing this with accounting? in fact, how are most of the STEM skills not abstract? what are they trying to suggest is a better choice, that is more abstract than STEM? what a moron

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >operating on the assumption that current wave of machine learning will exceed human level performance when multimodal models still can't reason let alone have an internal model of the world

    why. there is no evidence any of this will happen just a vague promise of 'oh we'll come up with something' from people begging for VC money.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      95% of the IT jobs are crud monkeys writing heaps of corporate scaffolding manually, a good developer with AI tools to generate these can make most of the workforce redundant

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's true even without AI tools. Pieces like Hasura, Directus, even dear god, WordPress, could be used to automate most stuff.
        But the problem is editing that code to make something specific is much more annoying when the basic crud isn't enough.
        Theres also pocket base, firebase, supra base etc that give you whole backend stacks for very little effort. Customizing them sucks but if all you need is crud then it's much faster to develop.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >writing heaps of corporate scaffolding manually
        That's because corporate demands and systems are insane, and every solution needs to be fine-tuned to the bullshit requirements and workarounds of the day.
        You're not automating ANY of it, not just because of the unclear requirements and enormous complexity but also because of liability concerns.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I never understood this argument. No shit it's all crud, computing in general can be boiled down to crud, but every developer knows software is a big jigsaw and you gotta "crud" it together and it's always more complicated than it seems.
        >a good developer with AI tools to generate these can make most of the workforce redundant
        You can't get away from reading and verifying all the generated code, and at their current state LLMs generate a lot of shitty or code that is simply irrelevant to the problem at hand, because there's a fundamental information problem. Even if LLMs become literally perfect at generating code, they still need the proper information to work with, and that requires more work than you may think.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care I'm a hobbyist. I learn things because it's fun.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The article is 100% right. It will take a while for everyone to realize how over it is. I think a lot of young people are still high on reading shitposts from the pandemic where everyone is talking about making 150k a year for 2 hours of work a week. Those days are over and they aren't coming back. CS as an career is only going to go downhill from here. I have carved out a very specific niche for myself, I'm not going to share it because competition is going to be that intense soon, but I should have employment for another 10 years which is better than most developers will see.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Right now I'm wondering if I should get out of tech and into the world of spirituality. I feel like younger people, especially zoomers and gen alpha with burnt out dopamine receptors will become desperate to find some kind of meaning in their lives.
    Just become some new age hippie charging $50 an hour to do yoga and have meditation sessions and burn incense and shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Start a sex cult.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I was thinking more the opposite, since zoomer men aren't having sex ever

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Get into the AI girlfriend market.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean you should persuade the girls to have sex with you as a means to get enlightenment or some BS like that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I would rather make lots of money then have lots of sex.
            I think young men are way bigger market for that shit, hence the rise of people like Andrew Tate

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, i'm starting to think this is da wae, too. i'm somewhere between a zoomer and a millennial, and when i got extremely bored of everything i started looking into spirituality because that was the only perspective i hadn't considered. i have the chance to become a bikram yoga instructor and i might just become one because even though i've become aware of a lot of truths i'm still extremely bored. also, it's not just guys who are into this stuff - a lot of girls are, too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know a b***h who does the whole range of new age stuff, from the tame things like yoga and meditation to the more esoteric weirdo snake oil stuff like magnetic cleansing and kabbalah. She makes bank but she's obviously shameless in making old women part with their money.
      On the more classic side of the esoteric, the wife of one of my dad's coworkers dropped her job and started doing tarot full time, now she's got clients calling her, she doesn't even need to do in person appointments, she just tells them to deposit x amount on an app and does the whole thing through the phone, sometimes while sitting at the beach. They've also got a small shop where they sell all the trinkets needed for that stuff like candles and the like.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seems like humans cannot function without some sort of religion

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have they been given an insider preview of GPT-5 by Altman or what? Because LLMs a great productivity improver for programmers who know how to use them but they're nowhere near ready to replace humans on complicated projects yet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why hire a junior or intern when you can give a senior a $25k GPT-5-DAN and improve his productivity without the drain of taking on a junior or intern?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sure if it's that good, but what info do they have that they're assuming that? Even the industry insiders I follow who generally know about advances like this well ahead of time aren't talking about anything that would justify this decision

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >yet
      yes but these predictions are usually on decades long time frames

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Risky bet since it's by no means settled yet whether LLMs can get significantly better than they currently are

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just like they've been for the last 60 years.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    automation is going to render everyone's job superfluous eventually. Nothing to do but ride it out.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I want to work and participate in the larger human community!! ultrasoyjackhomosexual.tiff
    Who gives a shit. I just do it for my own personal fun.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just get your CDL
    There's a better paying field you could get into as well that has very transparent requirements (a few exams) but I won't mention it to drive down competition

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Actually we need more engineers and less money-changers.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it that engineers are getting replaced faster than ((Project Managers)) and other fake email jobs even though LLM are even better at automating that shit than they are at automating code

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because engineers are buttholes, and nobody likes them, and their combination of arcane expertise and strongly held beliefs makes engineers very difficult to trust.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Large numbers of software developers aren't getting laid off due to AI. It's because 1. the economy is fricked. Nobody has any money. Your employer is probably hurting. Most of your employer's customers or would-be customers are definitely hurting. And 2. The internet is becoming more centralized. Nobody is going to download your app. Nobody is going to go to your website. There are a few websites and apps everyone uses, and a few more niche ones with enough audience to continue support. Basically, there is nothing to code. And with Satya saying that programmers should expect a 50k yearly salary soon, I don't think there is any reason to.

      Coding is fun as a hobby, but if I was a young person the idea of trying to wagecuck through it is looking increasingly bad. But besides that, project managers and other fake jobs can potentially make money. 'Developer' is an expense.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1 is true, 2 is only partly true.

        The only ones at risk are those who are paid 70k at some dead-end Initech job, or those who got into the valley because of their skin color or sexuality.

        Meanwhile the actual great developers are still getting paid 200-300k (if not more) a year, and aren't getting fired because they're the ones keeping the lights on.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Satya saying that programmers should expect a 50k yearly salary soon
        based, i love to see code queers suffer

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's still tons of highly customized corporate software that need maintenance and modifications.
        >Nobody is going to download your app. Nobody is going to go to your website. There are a few websites and apps everyone uses, and a few more niche ones with enough audience to continue support
        Again, a lot of software isn't aimed at the general public.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reading between the lines, this is much bigger and grimmer than "fewer jobs for programmers".
    It sounds like they're banking that the effort to reshore manufacturing is going to totally fail and the US will remain a fake service/knowledge economy until war or collapse.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, people who think this is about programmers are thinking too small

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      howd you get to that conclusion

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The writing has been on the wall for STEM for a while now. They don't normally start encouraging browns and women into a sector unless they already know it's on it's way out and smart white men have started to turn elsewhere for employment.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so basically what they're saying is that your nation is becoming a 3rd world country

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of fields should I even get into now, holy frick???

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Soldier's not a bad idea

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Trucking

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if trucking gets automated there's going to be a lot of organized crime focusing on hijacking and robbing unmanned freight trucks

        robbing bigrigs happens occasionally but it's fairly rare atm, because to do it you have to be willing to catch a kidnapping and assault beat against the driver, maybe even murder if things go badly

        once there's no human onboard all bets are off, there'll be whole gangs who specialize in nothing but robbing automated goods trucks

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this. Its been that way with trains for years already, especially in urban areas.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I give 6 months till they start putting stun guns on the trucks. Wait a few more years and they'll get real guns too.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I was studying to be a coder some years ago but i have decided to buy a 1ton truck and start working as a trucker but it's not easy.

        first, you have to learn how to properly drive and that takes hours of driving on the street, some light mechanics in order to keep your truck in good condition. you'll get your hands dirty, you'll need to do physical labor to change a tire for e.g, you'll have to fight against the other npcs driving on the streets and it's really hot inside your cabin after a while.

        but i believe this is the right path, the 4th industrial revolution will push for an ai/virtual society with social credit score and people will lose their freedoms before 2030.

        there's a black mirror episode called 'nosedive' and funny enough one of the few jobs that can escape 'the ai system' is trucking.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >one of the few jobs that can escape 'the ai system' is trucking.
          that's moronic, self-driving driving will be the first mainstream ai takeover that will wake up normies

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ai will fully replace truck drivers eventually yeah, but not anytime soon.
            the current ai self driving systems are still unsafe and you still need a driver on board to take care of it at all times.

            once ai can fully replace truck drivers, it will be over anyways. we'll be living in a technocratic dystopian hellhole.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the current ai self driving systems are still unsafe and you still need a driver on board to take care of it at all times.
            this is cope from 5 years ago. we are still not there yet but we are veeeery close. in 2025 we'll definitely see a shift to self-driving cars, at least for taxis, trucks and public transportation. maybe even self-driving car zones

            the biggest obstacle to this is unironically luddite truck drivers who will organize raiding squads to take ai trucks down. hoepuflly the vax will neuter them by then

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you have any idea how little 7 million miles is? they are barely at prototype level. And that is within just a couple cities, people said waymo was very close in 2017, waymo themselves said it numerous times until their valuation shrunk by 90%. Don't even get me started on the economics of this, the turnover of these 100-200k dollar vehicles is just a few years, they cannot make more than a few hundred without going from billions to trillions in cost.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            do you have any idea of what exponential growth is? those will become 70m miles in 2024 and at least 700m in 2025 (also because of tesla and other manufacturers)

            again, you are thinking in terms of the past/present, think of what will happen 2 more papers down the line

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Waymo has had no exponential growth and WILL NOT have any, they will NOT pay trillions to scale up, simple economics. Tesla is a different kind of beast, they are doing legitimately a thousand times more miles than waymo because the economics make sense here, the problem for them is that getting the software right is a very hard problem, especially on the "small" sized chips they have in cars. Even if Tesla solves this, it will take years to build the infrastructure, it won't be an instant shift.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Waymo has had no exponential growth and WILL NOT have any

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you increase your fleet from 1 to 300, 1 million drives is doable in some years. If you do not increase your fleet from 300, then the growth will not be significantly faster to 10 million, because the hardware costs are keeping their fleet level more or less stagnant over time around 300. I hope this is clear enough now.

            >it will take years to build the infrastructure, it won't be an instant shift.
            there's no need for any additional infrastructure, that's the point

            Not even worth a reply

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >t. seething truck driver

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            For your family's sake, please stay in school

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no arguments
            concession accepted

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Two more weeks

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/26/waymo-puts-the-brakes-on-self-driving-trucks-program/?guccounter=1

            lol

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and? once taxis are all replaced, truckers are next. it's just that american truckers lobby is way stronger than the taxists one so they don't want to mess up with them

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And who is going to pay for all these taxis that each have over 100K in just hardware stacked on each of them, including HD mapping all the roads all over the US? Why hasn't Waymo made more cars than just a few hundred in the last 5 years even tho they have been operating a *shitty, slow* taxi service on a few streets because that is all they could afford? Money grows on trees for you homosexuals?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >now now now
            think in approximately 2 more years

            States are already banning self driving cars.

            yes because they are moronic. even if 1 state/country allows them, capitalism will do all the arbitraging until they are everywhere

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >think in approximately 2 more years

            What is the breakthrough that will enable the costs to plummet 10X for Waymo to make this viable in 2 years?

            >yes because they are moronic. even if 1 state/country allows them, capitalism will do all the arbitraging until they are everywhere

            Capitalism is why everyone is downscaling their "fully" autonomous pursuits, automakers cutting costs and even companies like Bosch that supplied stuff like Lidar have stopped even producing and let go their autonomous software people just recently.

            Your only hope is Tesla, because Musk is too autistic to ever back down from anything no matter how difficult

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What is the breakthrough that will enable the costs to plummet 10X for Waymo to make this viable in 2 years?
            homie have you been living under a rock for the last 2 year? in 2 years we went from 0 to gpt4 and dall3. the progress from now to 2026 will be even faster. i don't know what breakthrough will happen, but it will

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just the time period between gpt3 and gpt3 was over 3 years, your awareness of these things is just normie level, that is why you only recently heard about LLMs. Things take time and this is not just a software breakthrough we need, you need to go and convince the guys building the hardware that this is actually viable, because there is not even 1/1000th of what is needed being built today.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            gpt3 and gpt4*

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Low IQ take. Like BTC tards thinking it must go up forever.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Like BTC tards thinking it must go up forever.
            like btc it was and it will

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are simply moronic and your opinion is based on nothing. So far no one has demonstrated that LLMs are anything more than glorified calculators.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it is impossible to produce so many robotaxis in 2 years to even fill a single state, this is like the people arguing that once agi comes then every job is immediately replaced, even tho there arent any robots to replace humans yet

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you can automate any car with proper hardware, this is truckers' cope

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So who is producing the hardware necessary for your autonomy to put into the vehicle? You are not even coping, you don't even understand the basic fundamental issues here. There are no plans to build them, nor will they magically appear.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >who is producing
            who WILL, again you're not thinking in future tense. successful startups DO magically appear once the tech is viable, if none of the big boys does their thing

            Just the time period between gpt3 and gpt3 was over 3 years, your awareness of these things is just normie level, that is why you only recently heard about LLMs. Things take time and this is not just a software breakthrough we need, you need to go and convince the guys building the hardware that this is actually viable, because there is not even 1/1000th of what is needed being built today.

            >Just the time period between gpt2 and gpt3 was over 3 years
            i doubt openai was quoted 80b during those 3 years. also gpt5 is confirmed for this year

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you're not thinking in future tense

            If you say that something is happening within the next few years, then at least a plan has to be in motion. I don't argue that something happens within the next decade, just realize it is delusion or hopium at best if you think things magically happen out of nowhere, you cannot have a breakthrough so large in physical matter that you defy all laws of physics and things just appear. That is what would be needed for a shift this large within the next 3 years.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you cannot have a breakthrough so large in physical matter that you defy all laws of physics and things just appea
            it's not so large, you are the one coping. once we have dedicated llm harder (which nvidia started designing last year) the inference will be 100x faster on you can basically put it literally everywhere. driving a car is a nothingburger, and same goes for everything else, as long as you have proper sensors

            You are simply moronic and your opinion is based on nothing. So far no one has demonstrated that LLMs are anything more than glorified calculators.

            >so far

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >as long as you have proper sensors

            You are getting closer at least.

            But 100x inference speed won't matter if you cannot put it into 99% of vehicles, sure you can put it in a Tesla because they have actual systems, noone else even has proper connection to the vehicle yet, 100x-ing wont change that.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >But 100x inference speed won't matter if you cannot put it into 99% of vehicles
            homie all you need is a box that has 2-3 sticks to press pedals and another hole for the stick

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >so far
            Yes, just like many other things. So far we haven't developed teletransportation either, and maybe never will.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            States are already banning self driving cars.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it will take years to build the infrastructure, it won't be an instant shift.
            there's no need for any additional infrastructure, that's the point

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >this is cope from 5 years ago. we are still not there yet but we are veeeery close. in 2025 we'll definitely see a shift to self-driving cars
            That's what you said 5 years ago. It's always just around the corner isnt it?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            this is literally a non-argument

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's a great argument. Your sources are not trustworthy, they have made promises like "another year or two" this whole time, and they have made little progress.
            Of course, they are just trying to drive up hype to get more investment. And somehow fanboys have memory like a goldfish and forget all the broken promises

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Two more weeks!!!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Commies already have self driving cars. Capitalism sucks at innovating. Too many Mangers sabotaging their own projects cause they don't want to one upped by an underling who actually understand the problem.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      like everyone has been telling you for the past 10 years
      learn a fricking trade

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Plumbing or electrician. These are good trades because they aren't quite as brutal on your body as some, you can be your own boss after you learn the ropes, and most zoomers lack the arm strength to do them so competition isn't nearly as bad as tech jobs. You don't have to worry about 3rd worlders taking your job, most of them are too uneducated. Nobody is going to pay some 80IQ brainlet to wire his home.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you also have ulitmate job security; even if you are laid off, its trivial to find another position elsewhere, often without having to move. Save up money, then go independent. Especially now as all the old timers are leaving.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Plumbing or electrician

        Gatekept. You need to slave away at low wages for years before you're able to get a license. You don't need much arm strength for these jobs.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You need to slave away at low wages for years before you're able to get a license.
          license is the least of your worries, back in the day once you were licensed you could just start your own company and make bank, now the big corporations have that shit locked down behind bureaucratic nightmares and fees making it almost impossible to break in

          basically even if you do go into the field you're stuck as a wagie forever now

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You need to slave away at low wages for years

          That's every job, though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing. Don't fall for the tradegay meme. There's no security to be had anywhere. The trades will get flooded with desperate people from every industry over the next 10 years and the price for inexperienced or even mid-level labor will plummet. Everything is fricked.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        On some level we'll all have to brace for some sort of collapse and/or revolution.
        I wouldn't want to take on a mortgage right now almost regardless of career.

        Still do try your best, try to make money and get influence, but it's more important to start a family even if you are poor. The 'murrican dream is dead.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but it's more important to start a family even if you are poor

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you're ready to end your own bloodline because you can't be guaranteed a secure middle class existence you're being a weak homosexual.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not that anon but why the frick would I, a poor guy in my early 20s, even consider having children when shit's about to go up in flames?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            because things are only going to get worse and you'll need them when they're grown up

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sure you and your progeny will enjoy the pods.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            This is an absolutely evil ideology. Imagine subjecting innocent lives to the misery of this world in hopes of squeezing free labor out of them. You're morally reprehensible.

            Not that anon but why the frick would I, a poor guy in my early 20s, even consider having children when shit's about to go up in flames?

            I'm sure you and your progeny will enjoy the pods.

            Lmao look at these homosexuals. "If I can't consume then there's no meaning to life! Bad times are coming for the first time in history and kids will get in the way of my YT binging!"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So basicallly... im not going to breed any more slave cattle for your overlords. Ugh I know!!! I know!! I'm just not going to do it is all!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Bad times are coming for the first time in history and kids will get in the way of my YT binging!"
            Yes but I play bideo games.
            I date enough girls and babysit enough kids to know that they are dead weight.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dating single moms
            have some self-respect anon

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This isn't even a strawman. It's a phantom, since it's a shadow of an argument that doesn't exist. You are unable to understand compassion, desperately trying to reframe it into a selfish perspective since that's all you know. But that's exactly why you feel comfortable airing your filthy opinions on an anonymous basket-weaving forum, isn't it, you maladjusted sociopath?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you're ready to end your own bloodline because you can't be guaranteed a secure middle class existence you're being a weak homosexual.

          This is an absolutely evil ideology. Imagine subjecting innocent lives to the misery of this world in hopes of squeezing free labor out of them. You're morally reprehensible.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's not just about free labor, it's about saving the aryan race and succumbing to moronic blackpill crap that turns life into suffering.
            even poor people of today live like kings, money is not nearly as big of a deal as iq and health are.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      basically anything engineering is safe. it's only low effort computer sciencegays that are sweating. computer engineering is especially god tier, basically any job you want. you can LARP as an electrical engineer, computer scientist, production engineer, mechanical engineer, get into the AI fad, etc. every computer engineer i know unironically obtained the 300k starting, any job you want meme

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What kind of fields should I even get into now,
      Well, tell me what interests you, and I'll tell you what would be a good choice.

      humanities cope
      STEM guys are only just seeing what it's like to graduate with a humanities degree.
      People complain about how "I can't get a job" and "there's 1,000 applications per each position"! Every single non-STEM field is even worse.

      >STEM guys are only just seeing what it's like to graduate with a humanities degree.
      Amusing, you know. Even seven years ago I was hearing about 1000 applications for two positions at an engineering company (in Western Australia). Over and over I've been told of the difficulties in finding work with a STEM (which, annoyingly, captures the Natural Sciences as well) degree. It's not that Humanities and the Social Sciences (HSS) were that much inferior for jobs (in many cases they were better for both wages and employment prospects) to STEM, it's just one had all the hype because it contributes so strongly to consumption (and, by extension, economic "growth") so it was lauded, whereas the other (HSS) has been denigrated, seemingly forever.
      Turns out all employment is shit, because we live in the ultimate dance of smoke and mirrors.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >STEM skills have traditionally become obsolete more quickly than other skills.
    Unironically what the frick is he talking about?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      humanities cope
      STEM guys are only just seeing what it's like to graduate with a humanities degree.
      People complain about how "I can't get a job" and "there's 1,000 applications per each position"! Every single non-STEM field is even worse.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What kind of fields should I even get into now,
        Well, tell me what interests you, and I'll tell you what would be a good choice.
        [...]
        >STEM guys are only just seeing what it's like to graduate with a humanities degree.
        Amusing, you know. Even seven years ago I was hearing about 1000 applications for two positions at an engineering company (in Western Australia). Over and over I've been told of the difficulties in finding work with a STEM (which, annoyingly, captures the Natural Sciences as well) degree. It's not that Humanities and the Social Sciences (HSS) were that much inferior for jobs (in many cases they were better for both wages and employment prospects) to STEM, it's just one had all the hype because it contributes so strongly to consumption (and, by extension, economic "growth") so it was lauded, whereas the other (HSS) has been denigrated, seemingly forever.
        Turns out all employment is shit, because we live in the ultimate dance of smoke and mirrors.

        >1000 applications
        I beat 1k applicants to a job. What's your excuse? Where I work I am valued, I am given freedom and responsibility, I am happy.

        Right now I'm wondering if I should get out of tech and into the world of spirituality. I feel like younger people, especially zoomers and gen alpha with burnt out dopamine receptors will become desperate to find some kind of meaning in their lives.
        Just become some new age hippie charging $50 an hour to do yoga and have meditation sessions and burn incense and shit

        >Just become some new age hippie charging $50 an hour to do yoga and have meditation sessions and burn incense and shit
        Unironically doing this on the side. I have a tiktok with (LLM generated) horoscopes and advertise my tarot readings.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I beat 1k applicants to a job. What's your excuse? Where I work I am valued, I am given freedom and responsibility, I am happy.
          That's nice. I suppose this way you have, in a sense, become part of the .1%. I do wonder about those other 999 applicants. How did they go after rejection?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sure something like 10% of them were competent programmers with different skills. The other 90% probably resume spammers who deserver whatever 'jeet body shop they land in. Remote employers can choose to be as picky as they want. I doubt in person roles get 1k applicants.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let this be a lesson to you: never fall for education fads.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So the narrative goes from:
      >you should have looked at the salary and market prospects for your degree
      to
      >you're a fricking moron and shouldn't have fallen for trends!
      Ok bro
      Doesn't matter because all of the industries for getting into the middle class are basically closed now

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        israelite
        Black person

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        all according to plan. least having a degree means you can get A job, puts you head and shoulders above a lot of the other applicants to your local Amazon warehouse or KFC

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm enjoying watching the idea of intellectual property start crumbling

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >UBS
    banks have already been replaced by bitcoin lmao

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fourth industrial revolution
    cryptotard opinion discarded

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What people need to understand is that with automation, all the work can be done by a small number of people. This doesn't mean that the rest of you can just sit back and exist for free while robots support you - it means you're unneeded. You're entering an era where there are no jobs and you can't compete on the open market without capitol to buy the very automation tools which replaced you, something which you'll never be able to afford. Societal castes have been locked in, if you weren't already a billionaire by the early 00s then you're destined to live in eternal poverty.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if you weren't already a billionaire by the early 00s then you're destined to live in eternal poverty.
      it takes A LOT less money to go out right now and secure access to all the creature comforts and necessities at your fingertips for the rest of your life on a very minimal monthly/annual income.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    skill issue

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Learn2weld/Learn2solder
    Programming is a joke

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >brave new world
    What?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      new world
      >What?
      Own nothing, happy, bugs, pod, etc, etc.

      Switching from an "ownership economy" to an "access economy."
      https://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2018/bcp-pco/CP22-167-1-2018-eng.pdf
      >Access to services could displace ownership
      >Social Credit may become a more powerful determinant of socio-economic inclusion
      >Links between ownership and social status are becoming unstable

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >path to a brave new world
    Lol stems been out of date for almost 25 yrs automatic everything then ai then all bs going into 2030

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so if you're not supposed to lrn2code then what the frick are the zoomers supposed to learn?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gardening

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Random Mexicans will steal your jerb

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Had serious health issues as a teenager
    >dropped out of school because of it
    >became a neet
    >eventually start getting my shit together this year at 24
    >get an internship while attend school as a developer
    >Trying my hardest to catch up on what I've missed out, willing to go through a 1 hour 20 commute for a shit pay
    >this happens
    Fricking hell, have I not suffered enough? What the frick am I even supposed to do, lose even more time by branching out?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're going to be fine moron
      getting your foot through the door is the hardest part, because no one wants to hire someone with no experience or job history
      after that it's smooth sailing because you're supposed to get your next jobs from your contacts

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't help but think with all the "learn 2 plumb/weld" shilling trades are going to be oversaturated too eventually

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yup with the added bonus of all these wallflower-type aimless zoomers getting physically and verballt destroyed on the job site and/or hooked on Paco's meth lmfao
      Anyone FOMO'ing out of tech right now are the same people who panic sold bitcoin for $16k

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Speaking of Bitcoin, does it have any hope of being worth anything more than it is now? As of writing this it's worth over 40K per coin. Is it worth holding on too long-term?

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is there to do after coding?
    I'm a software dev, but I'm pretty young, so I'm down to learn anything while my brain's still flexible. Even if that means going back to school.
    I don't want to be stuck on a dead-end career path. I'm already getting sick of what I'm doing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Similar position here, I'm starting to think depending on corporations for employment is a losing strategy.
      There are some white collar career paths that are gated and relatively secure in income and status, like doctors or lawyers, but these paths are so obvious pretty much any normie is gunning for them so there's a lot of competition for not that many spots.
      AI will probably kill a lot of the free market positions in offices, so unless you're already in some highly specialized niche it doesn't seem like a great investment to get into those skills.
      You could try to use AI to build your own company, but you'll have to expect failing and being outcompeted.

      Blue collar work is secure, and you might be able to become self-employed and even grow a business, but physical labor ages you, there are dangers, it's a pain in the ass and it's not particularly high status.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Look into farming anon

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >twitter opinion piece

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The author is a heckin wholesome WEF shill and economist. He might as well be a prophet.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >we need fewer engineers and more bean counters!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw bean counting factory where I live has no open positions

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw the bean counting factory where i live closed down to open a scam university

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying this wasn't shitty engineers overlooking flaws

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, but sadly normies will say this unironically because israelites want the undoing of western nations.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    always do the opposite of what the israelites say

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >path to a brave new world
    Juden insanity at work. Nothing that reflects reality. If anything, needs for coding will only increase in the future, but the distinction between quality work and bottom of the barrel cancer will only be increasingly important

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But studies point to lower skill workers benefiting more from AI help

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    soon all jobs will be replaced by a single human AI wrangler, then eventually he'll be replaced by an AI as well

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you dial up gamma you'll see the shadow of the hooked nose even on the screenshot.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >forth industrial revolution
    Do the exact opposite of what WEF says. Go all in on coding.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody needs economists as well, their predictions are wrong 90% of the time so they are easily replaceable by AI algorithms. Now of course UBS would never tell you that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You won't agree with this but I think legitimate economics (good enough that you can eg make money bond trading) is harder than programming.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The ones who had to buy credit suiss's debt are trying to talk about what they know. This is hilarious.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw software engineer at UBS

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    all jobs will get obsolete really soon, you just need to survive a year or 2 until UBI

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >don't worry as long as you have bread and circuses

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bread and circus without waging > bread and circus with waging

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >no arguments
        concession accepted

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As opposed to your arguments? Or, a list of things you'd want happen?
          Well, here's my argument, it won't.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            dyor

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the singularity will require unbridled energy and material availability. yeah we'll have AI that can think real gud but it will not be able to scale locomotively. Even if really effective general robots are invented we won't magically have infinite resources and energy to build and run them. Humans will still have to do all actual labor for a long time. desk jobs will go but anything that actually requires walking or moving will still be necessary. so no only the good cushy jobs will be gone, you'll just shift to manual labor so no UBI for you.

      This is all also ignoring the fact that even nonambulant AI has its own massive energy and resource needs which will probably bottleneck it from fully replacing human white collar labor anytime in the next millennium. Also it is assuming that AI effectiveness will not just putter out into a flaccid logarithmic horizon of diminishing returns which already seems to be the case.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        time to get started on the dyson sphere

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >UBI
      lmao the moment large swathes of the population become economically unable to consoom and redundant to the work force, the powers that be will just releases some mega covid ebola and cull them all

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And who will consoom then?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The part of the population from which they can still extract some value, the one that can still earn a living and spend it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So you will shrink the economy to match the consoomption? And what value are you extracting exactly?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How are you shrinking the economy when that part of the population no longer participates in it?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So what will you do with the part of economy that produces stuff that is no longer consumed?
            90% of western economy is the proverbial slop production.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            When society reaches that stage of automation the economically inactive part of the population won't be financially able to consume slop to begin with unless there's an even bigger redistribution of wealth from the middle class that is still active, this is already happening in the west with the large scale migration which is not only permitted in order to depress wages but also to redistribute the unconsumed wealth of the middle class so it can be spent on slop by the migrants with the pretext that the population is growing old, that's the elite's farcical model of "infinite economic growth".
            UBI won't exist as is publicized, it's just a redistribution of wealth and there will come a point when the active part of the middle class won't be able to consoom slop either after its income gets redistributed past a certain threshold, they'll just be able to to consoom the basic necessities.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            read turchin, we already suffer from severe elite overproduction, the next step is a revolution

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the point here is the elite can't exist without the cattle, and cattle can't exit without the elite. so culling the cattle won't happen, otherwise the whole economic system collapse. culling the elite also won't happen because people are cattle

            the most reasonable thing to do is to tax ai-using companies (aka those who actually take people jobs) and introduce are small ubi, like half minimal wage. that way neets will be happy, poorgays will get more breathing room to work for minimal wage doing physical jobs (those will be replaced last) and middle class will keep wagecucking because those money aren't enough for a 2-week vacation every summer.
            then gradually increase ubi until jobs are obsolete

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the point here is the elite can't exist without the cattle
            That's your opinion, and no one said they'd get rid of all the cattle, I said the part of the population that is no longer able to consoom.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I said the part of the population that is no longer able to consoom.
            in 5 years 99% of the population won't be able to consoom so it's the same thing

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            but what if the cattle use the ubi moneys to do Wrong things??

            This is why the elite need to give us digital wallets with coloured coins so government and its quasi-governmental proxies in the NGO sphere can administer human activity more extensively and directly.
            The elite of course will keep their mansions, their finest beef, their dachas, their private jets, and so on. Their sin is washed away by virtue of the sacrifice of their lessers.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but what if the cattle use the ubi moneys to do Wrong things??
            what wrong this? cattle are cattle, they will waste ubi money on iphone and netflix subscription. neets are based so they will spend them all on crypto

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The part of the population from which they can still extract some value
            you forgot the part where AI becomes better than any human at doing literally everything

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >for more mindblowing infographics.. subscribe to my kurzweil-tier moronic blog

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Back around the year 2003 I did not go into computer science or programming because the common knowledge was that it was over for devs/stemcells, outsourcing was going to take all the jobs and it would be a worthless degree with no career. Plus the whole dotcom bust a bit earlier and all that.

    Guess what happened for the next 20 years?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What happened? Sour grapes? You're browsing IQfy on a thread about STEM

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The past 20 years comp sci has been absolutely booming and people had immensely profitable careers from it. Despite the bullshit of the naysayers.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Guess what happened for the next 20 years?
          Misread as
          >Guess what happened after 20 years?

          Ye, tech is still the field to be in, even after all this, you just might have to pivot what you're working on. All these nocode sour grapes are annoying af though

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bwahahahah
    incels spent their best years learning about pointers and derivatives and other nerd shit the real world doesn't care about and now they'll have to work fast food jobs, karma is a b***h

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Subjects more abstract then STEM
    Such as... Writing blogs for mountain israelites?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, more like writing blogs for Tunnel israelites. This is New York after all.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still think L2C is powerful honestly.
    Today as a competent "coder" I can ask for and correct automation scripts that save people dozens of hours every week.

    If I had no coding knowledge, this would be impossible.

    So basically get elementary, but don't spend forever learning every function and library... I've never used or learned Pillow for Python before, and yet I have 3 scripts doing image transformations for me using this library.

    NoCodes get fricked: I will automate you out of existence.

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It is easier for technology to replace the absolute skills of STEM than other more abstract subjects
    And yet artists and writers were the very first people to get fricked by AI. This Paul guy is an absolute moron.

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's disheartening that ZH is e hoping the globalist propaganda. If a person is a tech illiterate, they become easy prey to technocrats and corpos

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >software is real estate, a computer can do that already

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's bullshit. Literally every single time progress is made in tech you have boomers talking that it's over.
    I have heard that it's over for 10+ years from different people and it only increased.

    Currently we are at the time where market now fixes itself and corrects for all the morons who got bootcamps during pandemic so that actually useful people get hired.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's no AI, and there won't be in your lifetime.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ubs is going to be stranded in hell without a paddle after the blackhole that is their credit suisse bags and all the financial frickery baggage related to it, sink it like in that film with sam neil and laurence fishbun

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, the free-market front for the SNB is going to "sink". You know those guys make Swiss Francs from thin air, right? I'm sure they have shit opinions, but you're never going to step hearing from them just like you'll never stop having to pay taxes.

      Speaking of Bitcoin, does it have any hope of being worth anything more than it is now? As of writing this it's worth over 40K per coin. Is it worth holding on too long-term?

      No, the wild west days for bitcoin are over. Once the futures and ETFs and Chicago commodity guys got in, it become a fully manipulated asset like stocks, bonds or currency. The Fed or whoever can print up a bunch of paper contracts and swing it whichever way they want. It'll appreciate in value, sure, but it won't outpace general assets anymore. You can still make money speculating in it, I just feel bad for the people who bought in thinking the 100k or 1m price targets were reasonable.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you VILL NOT own ze home
    >you VILL NOT major in ze STEM
    >you VILL NOT vork as a programmer
    >you VILL live in ZE BRAVE NEW VVORLD and you VILL LIKE IT
    >oh btw daddy government please baby me

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >been learning how to code
    so what do I learn, then?
    I want to make games, and I am making one
    truth be told, I don't actually need money, I have a storage that I rent out to a company, but it's always good to have a backup, especially if it allows me to migrate and live in other countries

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >stem is for Chang and Rajeet you chuds
    >not for white males
    >frick you and your living wage
    >coding is the new farming
    >IDGAF about the looming competency crisis
    >AI will fix their shitty code
    >go back to West Biginia or wherever the frick you are from hillbilly
    >and take Elon Muskrat with you
    >hahah
    >what a sick burn
    >Elon MuskRAT????
    >it just works on so many levels
    >unlike you
    >you aren't working on any levels

    yep the israelites are at it again

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are the master race, after all.

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People are finally starting to realize it.

    In years of experience, I've never seen people struggling so hard to get a job in the field, and it's only going to get worse.

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh look. More ai hype. It's still a nothing burger

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think you comprehend the sheer amount of unrealized code there is.

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone here talked about how flawed banks are that they work for a Swiss bank that essentially outsourced all their critical stuff to a Indian firm. You do not know how much finance people hate proframmers and they’re willing to gaslight you to blindness just to convince you that uptrend worthless

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AI can copypaste from stackoverflow, but can it debug?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The ability of large language models (LLMs) to debug computer code is still under development, but there's promising progress:

      **Current capabilities:**

      * **Limited:** LLMs can't fully debug code like humans do. They may struggle with complex issues or reasoning about the broader program context.
      * **Assistance:** They can help with some aspects of debugging, such as:
      * **Identifying potential errors:** Using their knowledge of code patterns and common mistakes, they can flag suspicious areas.
      * **Suggesting fixes:** Based on their understanding of the code's purpose and similar solutions, they can propose potential fixes.
      * **Explaining errors:** They can translate error messages into simpler language and provide context about the issue.

      **Research and development:**

      * **Active area:** Researchers are actively exploring ways to improve LLMs' debugging capabilities.
      * **New approaches:** Techniques like "self-debugging" are being developed, where LLMs learn to analyze their own generated code and identify errors.
      * **Benchmarks:** Researchers are creating standardized datasets to evaluate and compare LLMs' debugging abilities objectively.

      **Overall:**

      LLMs are not yet replacements for human debuggers, but they offer valuable assistance and hold potential for becoming sophisticated debugging tools in the future.

      Here are some additional points to consider:

      * The effectiveness of LLMs in debugging depends on the specific code, the type of error, and the quality of the LLM itself.
      * LLMs should be used as part of a larger debugging process, not as a sole solution.

      I hope this information helps!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not only it can't debug it also can't do anything beyond giving you mostly useless snippets.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it can't debug
        again, 1 year old fud, code interpreter has been a thing for a while....

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you a developer? I struggle to find LLMs useful in my daily work. I always know it will give me some solution but it's usually not the best solution, and the work it takes to give it proper context is simply not worth it, much faster to just do it yourself.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Are you a developer?
            yes, i stopped writing code since i let gpt4 do it. also it's good for mundane shit like summaries and stuff.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I use copilot, isn't that gpt4 already? It rarely gives me proper suggestions beyond the most basic shit. I don't understand how you "let" gpt4 write all your code, makes no sense.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            don't use the copilot moron

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not taking advice from someone with broken english, sorry.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ok, keep writing code manually moron

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            copilot is definitely NOT gpt4. it's some sort of special bastardization

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't understand how you "let" gpt4 write all your code, makes no sense.
            He's either lying, exaggerating, or about to be fired for shitting up his company's codebase.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Disgusting jeet subhuman detected

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the fourth industrial revolution
    the what? what does that mean

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the most recent one.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WEF man wrote a book about it.

      There's a new set of would-be robber barons and a new opportunity to reorder the relations of society thanks to new technologies all arriving at around the same time, similar to previous industrial revolutions.

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >zerohedge
    meds

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i was into software engineering before I even fricking knew that it paid well. just sucks for me that the field's been saturated beyond belief right as I'm getting into it.
    luckily my competition is moronic so it's pretty easy to talk about spaghetti code nightmares with principals when i crash company outings

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At least all the tech is improving the games

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why was “brave new world” used like that?

  68. 2 weeks ago
    tc $170,000

    >Russian demoralization slop
    Ok gay

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HumanitiesGODS rise the frick up

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >my surrogate activity is better than your surrogate activity
    cool thread

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't be bothered to quote all the anti-natalist cope posts in this thread. Anyway, it's important to start a family because it's not just genes you're passing down (if you value that), but also ideals. You will die out, replaced by people who likely won't care about the things you value.

    And realize that you're basically preemptively committing demographic suicide just because of some IQfy "eat the bugs" meme LMAO. Having children is how individuals grow their sphere of influence, no matter how small.

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