>post something to suggest life during [any pre-WW1 time] may have had some positive aspects and was not pure unending misery

>post something to suggest life during [any pre-WW1 time] may have had some positive aspects and was not pure unending misery
>always get some response that, very specifically, makes up a fantasy about how some noble is going to walk by you, and decide to rape your peasant wife while you watch
I swear I have seen this argument almost verbatim from the pro-modernity crowd over a dozen times. Why do they think that nobles walking around raping people was a part of daily life?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Before people were life was probably fine and peaceful.

    After they become enslaved and money wealth resources soldiers rulers etc - it all went to shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Before people were enslaved*

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Modern man has great faith in "progress". The worse he can make the past, the greater he is, the more progress has been made, without doing any work.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Most of these types of points are just refuting the cringe incel fantasy that you'd have all the luxury and privilege of 1950s Americana + dicky if you lived in the 13th century.
    >dude ACTUALLY peasants had more holidays than office workers
    >ignores that literally every day is menial labour to survive day to day

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Who is actually denying that there is menial labour involved?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The people who say home steading is easy because you just, like, plant the seeds and then wait til harvest.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >bro actually being a medieval peasant was awesome!!!

    T. Nerd that plays 30 hours of video games a week

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You don't understand. I would be a Chad knight crusader mercenary.
      No, I almost joined the narines but they're zog.
      Yeah, I'd kill the pedo elite but the left would cancel me.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I tried to find proof that this happened and it is not true. I think that people would rise up if the nobles were just raping their wives. The governed have to consent to being governed. It wasn't like now where the rulers have nuclear bombs and shit. It was much easier for the people to revolt. Very unpopular rulers generally are ousted. I literally wanted to find proof that this scenario was real and wanted it to be real but I could not find any stories or evidence that this is what life was like. Roose Bolton did it in Game of Thrones and maybe people think that Game of Thrones was history class but that's not based on any noblemen I can find evidence of. I don't think even Genghis Khan did shit like this. He just took like hundreds of wives for himself we wasn't raping everyone else's wife. I feel like Game of Thrones made me think the same thing, so I am genuinely suggesting that Game of Thrones is the reason.

    On another note it's probably worse now cuz fricking like Brad Pitt could just dm your wife and she would probably frick him and you would not be able to do anything about it because it's culturally acceptable now. You'd probably have to settle for a no fault divorce lol

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because that's how life worked and it's what the British did to Americans, and this is why 1776 happened

    this bad behavior continued in ireland until 1997 btw and is why england is a bastard country that should have never been in the EU to begin with

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      can you provide some sort of proof of this claim? I am genuinely interested.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The 3rd Amendment concerning the quartering of soldiers in Americans' homes, because the British colonial government kept doing that and English sailors kept raping american women in front of their husbands, fathers and family and there was nothing the Boston constable or locals could do about it. This happened numerous times and gradually made everyone upset, and then Americans got very upset when Ben Franklin wrote a very stern letter about it to the King who ignored it and told them to enlist in the armed forces if they hated the garrisons so much. This then related to the Impressment problem, and eventually Americans got frustrated enough where they stopped paying their taxes.

        https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-3/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          also: in the english navy ass rape was both legal and commonly used as a punishment for impressed boys especially by actual full blooded englishmen who had stronger rights in the navy than a colonial subject like an american. This did not encourage trust, safety and cooperation between colonial and royalist forces

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          my brother, I need you to provide me with an account other than your own words that catalogues this, you can't just send one sentence of the constitution and then expect me to accept your own interpretation of why it is there for context without evidence. If one of the founding fathers mentions it and you can find such a thing I will appreciate it.
          But once again, there was a revolution, because like I said, nobody would ever put up with this at any point in history and an occupying force doing this is a lot different too because everybody raped everybody during war and occupation, that's different than acting like people just accepted the nobility of their country raping them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.history.com/news/third-amendment-constitution-james-madison

            https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/what-third-amendment-and-will-supreme-court-ever-examine-it-again

            https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-iii/interpretations/123

            https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt3-2/ALDE_00013335/

            https://tv.infowars.com/index/display/id/6610

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the word rape is mentioned 0 times on any of these pages

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >he didn't watch the infowars video

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're a fricking moron. The video also has nothing. You sent a million links and couldn't find one piece of evidence to support your claims and wasted my fricking time. You clearly believe this shit for no reason except some other moron told it to you. Even if you did sent another link containing proof at this point I wouldn't bother reading it because you have no credibility.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      so far I am only finding proof that the British committed sexual violence against female republican prisoners which is different than what we are talking about.

      I have found no historical claims of the British routinely raping colonist's wives and I would would love for me to show me where you got this.

      An invading army or occupying force raping those it is ruling over is a lot different than the nobles raping the wives of their own people imo. Not as good of a case for modernity.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think for most people the allure of living the life of a peasant or tradesman in pre-industrial societies is how structured their life would be. There's no huge competition among your peers to get rich because that's outside of your station entirely. You're raised from birth to perform one simple task that you master throughout your life, you live in a tight-knit community with a shared language and religion and never leave a 20 mile bubble around where you were born for your entire life. There are no modern creature comforts but you wouldn't know of them and thus wouldn't care. The work would be menial and you're two consecutive bad harvests away from famine and you have to work for free part of the year for your local lord but everything else is just set in place for you by your parents and village elders and centuries of tradition that makes it easy to just passively exist, tend to your crops, have some kids that make it to adulthood, and then die. Plenty of people would be okay with that.

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