Protestantism is just Iconoclasm+Schism. Everything else is just window-dressing.

Protestantism is just Iconoclasm+Schism. Everything else is just window-dressing. If you look at what they actually want it's just to destroy Christian art and to constantly devolve authority to dumber morons.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Read The Constitution while you're on the internet, moron. Be sure, Sure you understand Where you are and Why everything is how it is. moron. gay.moron.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I love false idols I love young boys and I love love LOVE the antichrist
    -OP

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      literally commandment #3 is "thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image...any graven image, or any likeness in heaven above or in the earth beneath or that in the water under earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them nor serve them"

      idk how that can't be more clear. maybe because y'all attend latin mass because it's trad even though it's incomprehensible. and you do so out of vanity. you don't even read the bible. you have to listen to some dude in rome as if that was ever in the bible.

      literally the synogogue of satan

      Tradsisters...how do we refute this...?

      These guys would have destroyed the Ark and Solomon's Temple if they had the chance. Every time they post they just prove me right, their desire to destroy art is far more important and characteristic of Protestantism any flimsy theological justifications they may have for their faith.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do you think you somehow have the power to create another Ark of the covenant?
        Because you dont and it was a one-time thing. And it was literally hidden from everyone 99.99% of the time.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I brought up the Ark because it had Cherubs on it. If you're still trying to imply that creating art of living creatures

          literally commandment #3 is "thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image...any graven image, or any likeness in heaven above or in the earth beneath or that in the water under earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them nor serve them"

          idk how that can't be more clear. maybe because y'all attend latin mass because it's trad even though it's incomprehensible. and you do so out of vanity. you don't even read the bible. you have to listen to some dude in rome as if that was ever in the bible.

          literally the synogogue of satan

          is an act of worship I'm just going to consider you a stupid Moslem and ignore you.

          Hylics need institutions

          All successful religions need institutions. Sorry you fell for the Gnostic meme buddy. Turns out there actually wasn't anything profound or esoteric about being a proto-hippie new ager.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            roman catholicism is gnostic.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In the true sense of direct knowledge of God, yes, as the achievements of many mystics attests.

            I take the entire second commandment as an entire commandment.
            Creating artwork* of nonspecific things for a church (nonspecific cherubs, nonspecific palm trees, nonspecific pomegranates) is fine.
            Literally just compare the second commandment with the temple and youll see how its meant to be applied.
            Obviously bowing down to and serving images violates the second commandment. Which Cathodox do in spades.

            >Obviously bowing down to and serving images violates the second commandment. Which Cathodox do in spades.
            You're just doing what I would do here; which is reproving Catholics for failing to be authentically Catholic. Your argument operates within the framework of Catholicism and its doctrines. Try actually refuting Catholicism.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >which is reproving Catholics for failing to be authentically Catholic.
            So, bowing to images, "censing" them, carrying them in a litter... this isn't authentically catholic?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Idolatry is obviously not Catholic. I challenged you to actually engage with its core teachings instead of looking for a cheap "gotcha" argument, and you failed.

            Roman catholicism changes and warps from person to person, moment to moment, so it's impossible to "refute" it because it doesn't stand for anything beyond submission to a child diddler.

            Roman-Catholicism is the more rigorously codified and defined religion on the planet. Its doctrines are defined quite clearly in a way that cannot be compared with anything else. You're refusing to engage with this fact because it would require actual learning on your part.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ???
            the second commandments main stipulation is not to make images to* BOW DOWN to, or otherwise SERVE.

            are you baiting?
            is carrying "Mary" on a litter not* idolatry? are you not serving it?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Roman catholicism changes and warps from person to person, moment to moment, so it's impossible to "refute" it because it doesn't stand for anything beyond submission to a child diddler.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I take the entire second commandment as an entire commandment.
            Creating artwork* of nonspecific things for a church (nonspecific cherubs, nonspecific palm trees, nonspecific pomegranates) is fine.
            Literally just compare the second commandment with the temple and youll see how its meant to be applied.
            Obviously bowing down to and serving images violates the second commandment. Which Cathodox do in spades.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >proto-hippie new ager.
            All I needed to hear to know you have no clue what you're talking about

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A moment of silence for all the great works of art destroyed by iconoclasts through history.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    literally commandment #3 is "thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image...any graven image, or any likeness in heaven above or in the earth beneath or that in the water under earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them nor serve them"

    idk how that can't be more clear. maybe because y'all attend latin mass because it's trad even though it's incomprehensible. and you do so out of vanity. you don't even read the bible. you have to listen to some dude in rome as if that was ever in the bible.

    literally the synogogue of satan

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tradsisters...how do we refute this...?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tradsisters...how do we refute this...?

      God actually commanded people to make what you call idols and graven images. God also commanded people to make things like a snake staff that healed. God is officially a sinner now wow.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >God also commanded people to make things like a snake staff that healed
        What happened to that when people started worshipping it?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The arc was kept in the holiest of holies and anyone who touched it died. Quite a different situation from the public display and kissing of icons.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Protestantism is just Iconoclasm+Schism. Everything else is just window-dressing. If you look at what they actually want it's just to destroy Christian art and to constantly devolve authority to dumber morons.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's over for you, Catholi-tard! I have depicted you as the basedjak, and myself as the chad!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        On second thought I think I shall commit suicide

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    and by "look at what they actually want" you mean look at an autistic tradcath's shitpost on IQfy

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not all protestants are real (mega churches, gay rainbow churches), but the only authentic Christian spirituality is protestant.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      90% of Protestant "theology" is just engaging in stupid, self-defeating word games about faith and works. I'm not really interested in discussing their more obscure beliefs since it's almost entirely irrelevant to a movement which is just about sedition and cultural revolution at its core.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hylics need institutions

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yep

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >$1
      I thought it cost a year's wages

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Iconoclasm
    Based
    >Schism
    Rome schismed from the universal church by teaching manifest heresy (giving money to the Pope absolves you of sin)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >teaching manifest heresy (giving money to the Pope absolves you of sin)
      I actually think I detest this sentiment more from a practical, political point of view than a doctrinal one. Destroying Church unity and killing millions of Europeans for petty nonsense like this was obviously insane and it's incredible to see people defending such a cynical move that only gained traction because it was a convenient foil to Hapsburg dominance for princes who converted.

      ???
      the second commandments main stipulation is not to make images to* BOW DOWN to, or otherwise SERVE.

      are you baiting?
      is carrying "Mary" on a litter not* idolatry? are you not serving it?

      I'm not going to discuss the image you posted because it's irrelevant to the issue of the legitimacy of Catholicism. I'm not going to play your childish game of using images and anecdotes to portray the other side as heretical. If I wanted to do that I would just find some images of gay "pastors."

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If I wanted to do that I would just find some images of gay "pastors."
        Okay, but I am not under any denomination except my local church, and "protestants" generally dont have a single authority whose job it is to root out heresy.
        But these festivals of adoration towards images have been part of Catholic culture for centuries, and you have an infallible magisterium, supposedly, who has had ample time to condemn these practices and hasn't.
        Ergo, it condones them.

        >I'm not going to play your childish game of using images and anecdotes to portray the other side as heretical.
        the only way to interpret your statement is that, yes, these festivals during Catholic feasts ARE idolatry. But you, personally choose to disavow them?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Okay, but I am not under any denomination except my local church
          That is an amusing attempt to shield yourself from criticism, you even put Protestant in scare quotes. But this is more than a little dishonest, isn't it? Because you must be a part of a larger movement, unless you believe the elect are exclusively those who attend your church.
          >But these festivals of adoration towards images have been part of Catholic culture for centuries
          Destroying churches and causing widespread destruction has been a part of Protestant culture since the 16th century.
          >an infallible magisterium
          Infallibility doesn't mean "can do no wrong." That isn't an argument for rebellion. That would be like suggesting it would be okay to overthrow King David because of his character flaws.
          http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2024/03/when-do-popes-speak-ex-cathedra.html

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Infallibility doesn't mean "can do no wrong."
            yes thats what the word means.
            David wasnt and didnt claim to be an infallible king. Neither did he promulgate doctrine. he was moved by the Holy Ghost and what he spoke was penned in the Psalms.

            >Destroying churches and causing widespread destruction has been a part of Protestant culture since the 16th century.
            literal "no u" argument.

            >But this is more than a little dishonest, isn't it? Because you must be a part of a larger movement, unless you believe the elect are exclusively those who attend your church.
            Not sure what this even means.
            People going to Church and believing the Bible is a "movement"? I guess. What does this have to do with an overarching authority to condemn and silence false teachers?
            Why am I even responding to three arguments? Youre just going to turn it into six so that I cant even address the original point youre dodging. Oh well.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >yes thats what the word means
            Read the article and educate yourself if you want, or don't. Obviously there is a context infallibility has been placed it, claiming it is Catholic doctrine that the Pope is sinless or can speak no evil is just a lie.
            >literal "no u" argument.
            Yes, that was the point.
            >People going to Church and believing the Bible is a "movement"?
            Here you implicitly admit you are a devout Protestant without outright saying it.
            >What does this have to do with an overarching authority to condemn and silence false teachers
            You made an offhand mention to this earlier that didn't really state anything of substance, are you now trying to imply this was your primary argument? I'm getting as bored of speaking with you as you are with me, so I'll just leave.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Destroying Church unity
        It was the Roman hierarchy which repeatedly refused to agree to a general Church council including the Reformers to end the schism, as many including Luther were calling for. The destruction of Church unity was a consequence of Papal policy that absolute submission to the Pope was a prerequisite for any reconciliation.
        >killing millions of Europeans
        Absolutely tragic. With most of the deaths at the hands of supporters of Rome. But it was God's judgement on a sinful Christendom.
        I'm not sure what to say here. The history of the Church is full of mass death, schism, apostasy and tragedy. How much of Israel died in the Babylonian captivity? That was God's judgement on Israel's idolatry. What does the fact that Israel suffered say about the righteousness of the prophet Jeremiah?
        >for petty nonsense
        Yeah, the Gospel is not petty nonsense. When muslims invade countries and massacre Christians do you think they should submit and apostatise because it would save lives?
        >only gained traction because it was a convenient foil to Hapsburg dominance
        In fact the Reformation was a bottom-up pietist movement of burghers and peasants, who then converted princes. In fact it was so bottom-up that Luther had to ask the princes to control the zealotry of the Peasant's Revolt and the Anabaptists. If anything secular princely politics restricted the spread of the Reformation because secular princes in France, Italy, Spain wanted to keep their control over Roman church policy so suppressed the Reformers.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is bowing down before a statue of Mary idolatry?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Depends if the pope says it is or not

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