>Quantum indeterminacy and emerging complexity.

>Quantum indeterminacy and emerging complexity. Something something. Therefore free will.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, at least QM shows that the world is not deterministic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >QM shows that the world is not deterministic
      more like it shows we don't know shit about the world

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is quantum mechanics right and the principle of noncontradiction incorrect or is quantum mechanics incorrect and two things cannot have contradictory properties?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          One thing have contradictory properties*

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          subatomic particles don't defy logic they defy our measurement systems

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How can we be sure? Euclidian geometry was thought to be universal up until a couple hundred years ago

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            non-euclidean geometry isn't illogical tho

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrödinger_logic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the ball was always going to land on that number on the roulette wheel, the existence of odds and chance before you spin don't change that deterministic nature of the result

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the ball was always going to land on that number on the roulette wheel,
        [Citation needed]

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do the many world cucks think they have a monopoly on the interpretation of quantum mechanics?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >many worlds

        bro. these free will libertarian morons are straight up quantum mysticists.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wasn't hidden variables theory disproved?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No.
          How would you disprove hidden variables? They are hidden.
          It's not like there's something you could discover about reality, that makes you learn the hidden stuff isn't there.

          You're probably thinking of Bell's theorem, which shows something else.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Many worlds interpretation is deterministic. The universal wave function always follows the Schrödinger dynamic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is so dumb
      Hidden variables are literally unfalsifiable in principle (they are hidden)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        hidden variables just means we don't know...yet (but it is knowable). so it's deterministic.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The question of free will should have no impact on your behavior and you should stop worrying about it.
    No, I will not elaborate.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s called top-down causation. Free will deniers are homosexuals.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >top-down causation
      qrd?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Explain why the twin towers fell on the basis of reductionism alone, without recourse to free will.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Everything people do can be physically explained. Free will is not possible in a strictly physical, causal, and antecedent realm. Which is why you need to invoke magical non-physical forces. Anyone who wants to invoke the "non-physical" is just a toxic male who wants to stroke their ego and attribute something where it doesn't belong. It's in their financial and social interest to pretend an imaginary non-physical force is responsible. An force that all people supposedly have equal access to if "they try hard enough".

          cool but what's the top-down causation thing about?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Top-down causation: the system as a whole can constrain or direct the behavior of its parts. This means that higher-level systemic properties (such as the rules governing an economy, the structure of a social network, or the laws of a cellular automaton) can influence lower-level phenomena (like individual financial decisions, personal interactions, or cell states) in a way that cannot be predicted or explained by examining the lower-level components.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >limits of computation dressed up as an argument for indeterminism to prove a poorly defined abortion of a concept such as "free will"
            yawn

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lol, it’s not “limits of computation”. Selfhood and will is an abstraction over atoms the same as an algorithm is. Humans are fancy computers.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everything people do can be physically explained. Free will is not possible in a strictly physical, causal, and antecedent realm. Which is why you need to invoke magical non-physical forces. Anyone who wants to invoke the "non-physical" is just a toxic male who wants to stroke their ego and attribute something where it doesn't belong. It's in their financial and social interest to pretend an imaginary non-physical force is responsible. An force that all people supposedly have equal access to if "they try hard enough".

  4. 3 weeks ago
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    More for the anti-free will cucks:
    https://www.bretthall.org/free-will.html

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I could chose either A or B, it's just all the reasons that makes it so I chose A I could have chose B even if I didn't

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      most coherent free will enjoyer

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Santa Claus?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Dennett always filter midwits so hard?

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