Question?

If a land area of 208 hectares can become a country (Monaco) and accede to the United Nations.

Can an island of 253 hectares do the same if it has the backing of a permanent UN member of the Security Council?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes, if enough money is involved

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    God didn't decide what is a country, other countries do. So yes if you convince other countries to agree that what ever you have is a country then it's a country. good luck I guess lmao

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The UN is not a country registry bureau

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The United Nations is the sole body that grants a country its sovereignty and recognition internationally.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Totally wrong. The UN has no such authority. Sovereignty and recognition are matters of consensus, not declaration.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No you have the cases of Taiwan, Kosovo and Palestine which are technically countries but are not recognised by the members of the UN Security Council.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The United Nations is the sole body that grants a country its sovereignty and recognition internationally.

        Oh so countries didnt exist before 1945?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They did exist but there was the league of nations.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >but there was the league of nations.
            oh so there were no countries before the league of nations?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its a country if you can maintain control over it and defend it from foreign law enforcement and militaries (especially whatever country was formerly in control of your island), or convince another country to guarantee your territorial integrity.
    Everything else is formalities.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >or convince another country to guarantee your territorial integrity.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        works for israel (so far)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >or convince another country to guarantee your territorial integrity.
        Why is this controversial for you?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it is not
          but we all know which country it is

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Tuvalu?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ah, a reference to Israel. Tell you what, very few countries can hold their own in a military sense, for instance Costa Rica doesnt have an army of any sorts. Countries exist in practice as client states of some larger super power that offers them security guarantees in return for signaling allegiance.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Countries exist in practice as client states of some larger super power that offers them security guarantees in return for signaling allegiance.
            weird how it's US politicians who literally get on their hands and knees and kiss the feet of visiting big wigs from our "loyal little client state"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            guess you found who the real super power is
            its true, also the part about signaling allegiance. When a country declares it stands with Israel that country will be protected too and allowed to trade within the Israel global block

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sovereignty comes from strength. Land only belongs to a group capable of defending it.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes if the Vatican City and Monaco can become countries, why not.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In the brains of the nationalists almost anything is possible, perhaps anything even.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "Country status" is not some checklist. It's not awarded. It's implemented, as facts on the ground.

    You just need to convince enough relevant countries, to treat you like a country, then you are a country.
    How you do that? Well, for example having a title of "Count" and being a principality that stretches back for several centuries is a pretty good argument that exposes you as a non-LARPer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >"Country status" is not some checklist

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montevideo_Convention

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >capacity to enter into relations with the other states
        This is where most fail.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The implication you are making (this document is relevant to statehood) is equivalent to the statement that before this piece of toilet paper was written, there were no states/countries.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Monaco has a lot rich people influences and casinos.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Personally I've no problems with Israel itself. It's the israelites not in Israel that are the problem.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    there is mostly another country which this 253 hectores belong.
    so if that goverment says/ ok its your country now. then its ok i guess.
    But what country/goverment will do that ?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Science & Math?

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