Rehabilitating "science" (academia) is going to be nearly impossible

"Science" (academia) has actually lost a lot of ground in terms of credibility thanks to some of its more preposterous claims:

* Sex isn't real, you can become a woman by identifying as one
* Darwinian evolution for everything except humans; race isn't real, tabula rasa for us
* Climate change alarmism that basically amounts to secular eschatology

From a purely objective standpoint, "science" (academia) is less credible than Christianity, since there's a greater than zero likelihood that God exists more-or-less as described in the Bible and that Christ is the Messiah, whereas the likelihood that identifying as a woman makes you one is precisely zero.

So how can "science" (academia) recover from this? Is it possible for it to elevate itself to the level of peer with Christianity, which tends to have a superior understanding of the world?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "Science" doesn't say any of that. Those are all atheist claims.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      "Science" (academia) absolutely says all of that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Notice how you say "Science" instead of just science. Only Atheists worship "Science".

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well, I'm not an atheist, so.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Science is the chief god of atheists, and they say it teaches this.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Noah's flood is real because I am clinically obsessed with trannies
    Pa-the-tic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you need to accept whatever "Science" (academia) says because dad made me go to church

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ok, I'll take the bait. What does Noah's flood have to do with science?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It has basically nothing to do with science. He's basically trying to argue that "science" (academia) gets a pass for moronic Lysenko shit because Genesis.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Science proves it didn't happen.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How's that?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Open a book sometime. You don't "become" the opposite sex.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Uh? "Science" (academia) says a man can become a woman by identifying as one.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Transgenderism is something the patient is, not something they become.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. Correct. But "science" (academia) insists that identifying as a woman makes you one. This is a particularly preposterous claim and it's one they enforce by threat of expulsion, etc. This tarnishes the reputation of "science" (academia).

          Do you understand?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They don't. Trans people aren't the way they are because they say they are. They say they're the opposite sex because of the way they are. Transgenderism is a long term and probably congenital phenomenon, not something that develops overnight.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >They don't.

            They... they do. Is the rest just the current leftoid cope on this topic, like how they insist that DEI/Affirmative Action isn't anti-White discrimination?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            In the medical literature they don't just say someone "becomes a woman" by claiming to be one.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the medical literature

            okay try denying a troony their pronouns while attending uni, see how long you last

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Would you like to be misgendered?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >confesses the point he's trying to refute

            Anon...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's a sexual perversion.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not according to the scientific evidence.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Basedence man said so is not evidence of anything. You are ignorant of this because you are the mindless slave of authority figures and your research ends at your masters' decree, but the gold standard of transgenderism research remains the work of Dr. Ray Blanchard who divides them into two groups, autogynephiles (perverse men who fantasize about being women) and homosexual transsexuals (perverse men who fantasize about straight men sodomizing them). These are both quintessentially SEXUAL perversions.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Take your meds. Blanchard's typology doesn't challenge the mainstream clinical view or treatment of transgenderism.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Blanchard's typology doesn't challenge the mainstream clinical view or treatment of transgenderism.
            It's not on the same subject.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Transgenderism?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            [treatment of] vs [nature of]

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's not a fetish. Those are categorized as paraphilias

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I called it a sexual perversion.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

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  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how many times will this sperg spam these threads with his same babble

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How is the idea academia pushing preposterous claims tarnishes its reputation "babble"? It's a very straightforward idea. If you want me to take academia seriously, it can't enforce dumb claims internally.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The "establishment" has gone off the deep end, and totally co-opted by some kind of political movement that wants to bring about neo-socialism. It's gotten to the point where people can tell how bad it is and are openly distancing themselves from it.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Science is only fine when it confirms what I believe in.

  7. 1 month ago
    Radiochan

    we had this exact same thread yesterday I'll just repost what I said
    >gender dysphoria is a recognized medical phenomenon that has as its only recognized treatment transitioning
    >darwinian evolution can be independently verified if you have a CRISPR machine, which many hobbyists have
    >the climate has been steadily warming for the past 100 years and it's commensurate with global industrialism

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      troonyism is a moral phenomenon not a medical phenomenon, and the appropriate "treatment" is a bullet to the head

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >these facts disagree with my feelings, so they're wrong and all of science is wrong

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm a woman if I say so is a fact

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yes, gender being a social construct is a fact. thanks for conceding

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody on earth said this or thought this until around 2015 when the whole concept was invented. All that is happening since that time is some gnostic cult has been attempting to redefine the implicit meaning of words.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Transgender people have been in the medical record for decades. SRS was being performed in the 1950s and 60s.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There have always been mentally ill people. Never before has the world been commanded at gunpoint to play along with peoples' mental illness and redefine what pronouns are based on personal preferences.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Name and pronoun changes are nothing new either. Christine Jorgensen for example.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They're mental patients, anon.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Mental illnesses like mood and personality disorders are more common in trans people. That doesn't mean they're psychotic.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Red is blue. Green is yellow.
            Frick yourself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Transgenderism is in itself a delusion.

            Open a book sometime. Psychosis can co-occur with gender dysphoria but they're separate disorders and treated as such.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Transgenderism is in itself a delusion.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >these absurdities are facts because Dr. PhD says so

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is science going against my 90s worldview?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do trans cause ppl to throw such shitfits and cause huge obsessions? I never see anyone obsess over asexuals, albinos or gypsies as much as ppl let their minds get absolutely consumed by troony this troony that

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In case you haven't noticed, people are getting "cancelled" for saying the truth about this issue. I don't think anybody would normally care about a mental patient's delusions if they weren't being forced to talk nicely about them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Worse, we're being expected to explicitly acknowledge the mental patient's delusions as unassailable truth by pain of punitive poverty

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Muh culture war.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OP is a mindbroken /misc/Black person, he sees spooky trannies behind every corner, and probably has to check under his bed for any trannies hiding there.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I work at a store near a big university and I unironically see spooky trannies around every corner daily.
        You cannot gaslight people hard enough to win this.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Your point being? They're a self correcting problem, most off themselves before their 40th birthday. I just don't get the endless obsession, like why voluntarily spend your free time shouting into the void?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The disgust they elicit is because you fundamentally know that they are diseased child predators that are a threat to your tribe, and caving the heads in with a large rock is perfectly natural. Tolerating them would be insane.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And the number of normal looking pedophiles outnumber them by a magnitude. Yet I don't see you devoting so much energy to them. Anyone who does violate children is undeserving of living among civilized people, but let's not pretend only a tiny minority of mentally ill men who like to wear dresses is responsible.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're demanding I ignore the tiger in the middle of the village because there might be other tigers hiding in the bushes.
            If a man wears dresses in public, he is very obviously a diseases child predator, you can tell this right away, whereas other types of child predators are not as outwardly obvious..

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What? So if a thief or a murderer is walking around openly bragging about what they did, we should ignore it because most thieves and murderers don't do it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      See:

      In case you haven't noticed, people are getting "cancelled" for saying the truth about this issue. I don't think anybody would normally care about a mental patient's delusions if they weren't being forced to talk nicely about them.

      Worse, we're being expected to explicitly acknowledge the mental patient's delusions as unassailable truth by pain of punitive poverty

      /pol/tards want to insult people and their life choices without any backlash. They're cowards who want to attack everyone, but still want their money and attention.

      Honestly I respect those dumb college kids far more. At least they are bold about what they believe.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The fricking LAYERS of gaslighting in this post is actually astounding:

        >only "/pol/" knows what a woman is
        >it's normal and natural to cut your dick off and groom children
        >troons silencing objections to this are offering "backlash" to unreasonable demands by rightoids that biology be acknowledged and their children remain ungroomed
        >those from "/pol/" (any normal person from 2010 or earlier) are not the backlash

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Grooming a child to mutilate him or herself is an attack. It's worse than child rape because you are taking advantage of an impressionable young child and doing something far more harmful than rape to them.

        Verbally telling you the truth about what is happening is not an "attack." Me posting the facts about this issue does not constitute an "attack." The people who are actually physically mutilating children are the ones who are attacking.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >, since there's a greater than zero likelihood that God exists more-or-less as described in the Bible and that Christ is the Messiah
    But what about Allah?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What about him?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >So how can "science" (academia) recover from this?
    Since the West had become an assortment of technocratic oligarchies, the technocrats are making an effort to turn their vector of power, academia (what they call "science"), into a religion. That way, the technocrats can give themselves something like a divine tight to get mindless morons to believe whatever they say. That way, they don't need to be consistent with their scripture, the scientific method, just like the late medieval Catholic clergy made up whatever the frick they wanted, since they are ordained by "the science", as proven by their qualifications they received in academia, which the particularly boot licking kind of npc treats like a secular papacy. Science as a way of rigorous empirical research can only recover through divorcing itself from political power, meaning that, rather ironically, a religious state just leaving scientists to their own devices and not making appeals to "the science", could clear the field from Machiavellian power games and manipulation by bad actors

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Both soigay redditors and religious schizos are equally moronic because both of you low IQ dumbshit scumbags believe there is some entity called "The Science" with personal opinions and viewpoints and the authority to decree things. There is no such fricking thing. There are scienTISTS who have opinions, but this is not "The Science". "The Science" does not fricking exist, so please for the love of God would you shut the frick up. You are squabbling over literally nothing.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This occurred when scientific research began to influence governmental policy. 'scientists' began to moralise and question the raison d'être of scientific inquiry, whence the conclusion of their research began to affect the lives of millions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What does "procreation" have to do with TRVE science?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Eugenics.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't it a good thing that people who don't want children live childfree lives then? If you don't want just any idiot to breed?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Also, it's just a meme; I didn't make this. I am not the authority on this meme, so stop. I do not know, nor can I know, what the memeticist intended to show when creating this meme.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And no, I would say. Although I do understand your intent.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Am

      What does "procreation" have to do with TRVE science?

      Also having "procreation" on the left with Newton and Tesla is pretty hilarious

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >(academia)
    Academia is in a state of oligarchy and democracy. They are ruled by what's popular, and what pays. It's unclear if they will progress to tyranny, or come back to Christ.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >progress to tyranny
      They're there, bro.

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