romans wuz blonde

well enslaved prostitutes were

>In ancient Rome, blond hair was initially considered to be a symbol of a prostitute, and these women were required to bleach their hair blond or wear blond wigs. After slave girls were acquired from Scandinavia and Germany, noblewomen began to wear more wigs made from their hair, and the stigma attached to blond hair diminished

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think there was a stigma around blondness not due to ethnicity but because the best way to get rid of lice and shit in those times was lye in combination with tallow and other stuff. Having lice has always been stigmatized and rightfully so, it was always the smelly kid in school. The lye makes the hair both straighter and lighter in color when left in long enough.

    >https://www.hairfinder.com/hair4/ancient_hair_lightening_techniques.htm

    Then when people who have blonde and red hair more often naturally than the people of Rome started to enter in the empire it became more associated with exotic beauty. I'm something of a coomer and Anglo (Nord) and it's very disappointing when IRL you try to smell the pussies and buttholes of blonde and ginger women and it's this almost "blank" smell with no pungency, as if nature has already made them clean. I'm more naturally prone to simp for Germanic/Celt type women and in this regard it's usually a letdown, you have to ask them to skip a shower or two or find elaborate ways to get them to avoid bathing, catch them after exercising, etc.

    You rarely experience this problem with brunettes especially Med women and you can enjoy quality wiffs more frequently even with regular bathing. Just something to consider.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      what about asian pussy? I know asians naturally dont sweat so their pussy must be most default smelling thing of all pussies

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sadly correct anon, but I need to improve my sample size. Maybe we're missing something.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sadly correct anon, but I need to improve my sample size. Maybe we're missing something.

        try SEA instead of east Asian

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      disgusting

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      what the frick did i just read

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw no stinky, hairy, loud-mouthed greek princess

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bruh

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why did you feel the need to post this garbage on a history forum?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's actually an improvement on IQfy

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Check your url and this is a & humanities board you dense moron

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          None of that changes anything as the post in question was not relevant to either history or humanities, it was a degenerate sexual fantasy, but I hope I was able to help satisfy your urge to sperg out about literally nothing.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      This started out somewhat interesting and informative and then the second sentence of the second paragraph you immediately nosedive into schizophrenic coomerism. Fascinating progression

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      peach of a post

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      a spanish girl i dated had the smelliest ass once she took off her pants and bent over, you would have loved her.
      i avoided doggy style for this very reason, it was too much for me. it's like she didn't even wipe.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Napoleon, is that you? The true sons and daughters of France stand here waiting to support their Emperor.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      unfathomably based girlmusk enjoyer, never though Id meet another one. if youre not a full turbo chud you can try brown women (not black, brown, think south america or MENA). they usually have stronger body odors.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're mentally ill. please take your meds.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I understand and can relate. Some white girls just don't smell like anything down there

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    name one other instance where the aristocracy was influenced by the aesthetics of the lowest possible class of people

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      jeans

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        America with illiterate gangbanging ghetto Black person rappers

        i said aristocracy not the bourgeoisie

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not really low class but cravats were adapted by french aristocracy via croatian mercenaries that wore them

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            cravats are cool and the croatian mercenaries were cool too

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      America with illiterate gangbanging ghetto Black person rappers

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this where the "blonde are more fun" stereotype emerged from too? Since in Rome they weren't wives but prostitutes Roman husbands sneaked to to have dirty sex with

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Medbros. Why does the top have nordcuck red hair...

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's very clearly brown but the painting as a whole has a red tint as a result of age

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is what peak delusion looks like

        Nordcucks. This is BROWN HAIR. the nordcuck in the OP has red hair...

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is what peak delusion looks like

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >In ancient Rome, blond hair was initially considered to be a symbol of a prostitute,
    There's no way in hell this is true. Literally every single Greek and Roman god has either blond or red hair.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      They probably meant brown. This is just a shitty reconstruction that even changed his face shape.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bad reconstruction. Not even based on a contemporary bust.

        >"Scientific analysis of traces of paint found in his official statues shows that he most likely had light brown hair and eyes (his hair and eyes were depicted as the same color)."

        >Literally every single Greek and Roman god has either blond or red hair.
        what source do you have for this LOL

        also that reconstruction is a joke even if we ignore the hair and eyes, they changed everything from nose to lips

        >t. seething swarthoids

        Three most powerful greek gods, Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, were black haired.

        Zeus is described as having blue eyes and often white hair. He is very obviously a typical Aryan/IE sky god, represented by storms and lightning.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Zeus is described as having blue eyes and often white hair
          you are making shit up now.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Zeus is described as having blue eyes and often white hair
          why do moronic /misc/cels just go online and make shit up? Zeus hair color is never mentioned, however, he is mentioned with a dark brow. Poseidon and Hades, his brothers, both have black hair.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bad reconstruction. Not even based on a contemporary bust.

      >"Scientific analysis of traces of paint found in his official statues shows that he most likely had light brown hair and eyes (his hair and eyes were depicted as the same color)."

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Literally every single Greek and Roman god has either blond or red hair.
      what source do you have for this LOL

      also that reconstruction is a joke even if we ignore the hair and eyes, they changed everything from nose to lips

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Basically Rome was a conflation of Etruscans, Greek colonists and Italic tribes which were actually very similar and related to Gaulish ones which were said to be blond so it probably wasn't uncommon. Even in Northern Greece Alexander the Great was blond.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        there's actually no source saying alexandar had blonde hair

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Aelian, as late as it is
          believable considering also Plutarch stating he was quite white

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            you hardly ever see as much cope as it's concentrated in this single image, incredible

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >some facts and implication are cope
            No.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >what I don't like is fiction
            >mosaic I don't like is unrealistic
            >word which in 99% of cases means golden in this case means brown because I don't like the opposite

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            ξανθος doesnt mean golden. χρυσος does. ξανθιζειν was the word for browning meat. yellow was χλωρος as homer calls honey. it's also a cognate word with english yellow and gold.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >ξανθος doesnt mean golden
            it essentially does, every single attestation has typically to do with golden/flame like things or even the color of grain
            >ξανθιζειν
            attested once for "browning" WHITE FISH MEAT, which indeed becomes more like golden-reddish, not red meat, while ignoring every single other attestation related to flames, sun, etc....

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            source?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            open any actual dictionary about ancient Greek, a language you'll never learn

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            give me a source with the white fish meat and golden flames

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the white fish meat
            the Acharnians of Aristophanes where the verb appears
            >golden flames
            Bacchyl. Ep. 3 . 55

            >mosaic of Pella
            Unrealistic mosaic made after his death.
            >it doesn't in 99% of cases
            Source: my ass.
            >and it's the color also used to describe the hair of the northern neighbors of Greeks
            Like Celts and Thracians who were actually brown haired mostly.

            >Unrealistic
            cope
            >Source: my ass
            any dictionary about ancient Greek, try to open one and see for what kind of words is ξανθός typically attested for
            >Like Celts and Thracians who were actually brown haired mostly.
            gigacope

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >cope
            Cope. He wasn't as white as a corpse.
            >what kind of words is ξανθός typically attested for
            So what word did greeks use for brown hair, lol?
            >gigacope
            So what color was their hair, considering that according to genetic research Thracians resembled modern north Italians and Gauls resembled modern French and Spaniards?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            he was pretty white as Plutarch says
            >ἦν δὲ λευκός, ὥς φασιν· ἡ δὲ λευκότης ἐπεφοίνισσεν αὐτοῦ περὶ τὸ στῆθος μάλιστα καὶ τὸ πρόσωπον
            λευκός = milk = bones
            >So what word did greeks use for brown hair, lol?
            probably something like κελαινός and related for DARK brown hair

            In case of humans, xanthos almost always meant brown.

            that's a nice cope

            [...]
            but as a descriptor for human hair, it would most likely meant some variety of brown or tawny hair.

            >source: my cope

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >source: my cope
            There are very few depictions of Greeks with actual blond hair (North European-like).

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he was pretty white as Plutarch says
            White like on his lifetime image in father's tomb.
            >κελαινός
            Tell me a mythological or real person who was described by this.
            Why did you ignore my last question?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >only known depiction of alexander made during his lifitime depicts him with brown hair
            >xanthos also means brown
            >every image depicts him with brown eyes
            The facts are too clear.

            [...]
            [...]
            >t. seething swarthoids
            [...]
            Zeus is described as having blue eyes and often white hair. He is very obviously a typical Aryan/IE sky god, represented by storms and lightning.

            Made up nonsense.

            ξανθος doesnt mean golden. χρυσος does. ξανθιζειν was the word for browning meat. yellow was χλωρος as homer calls honey. it's also a cognate word with english yellow and gold.

            This.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>only known depiction of alexander made during his lifitime depicts him with brown hair
            wrong, mosaic of Pella doesn't
            also means brown
            it doesn't in 99% of cases and it's the color also used to describe the hair of the northern neighbors of Greeks

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >mosaic of Pella
            Unrealistic mosaic made after his death.
            >it doesn't in 99% of cases
            Source: my ass.
            >and it's the color also used to describe the hair of the northern neighbors of Greeks
            Like Celts and Thracians who were actually brown haired mostly.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Like Celts and Thracians who were actually brown haired mostly.
            true diodorus calls the children of the celts πολια, but he tells us that they become ξανθα like their parents when they grow up.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            open any actual dictionary about ancient Greek, a language you'll never learn

            >the white fish meat
            the Acharnians of Aristophanes where the verb appears
            >golden flames
            Bacchyl. Ep. 3 . 55

            [...]
            >Unrealistic
            cope
            >Source: my ass
            any dictionary about ancient Greek, try to open one and see for what kind of words is ξανθός typically attested for
            >Like Celts and Thracians who were actually brown haired mostly.
            gigacope

            https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/xanthous
            >having yellowish, red, auburn, or brown hair
            >or brown hair
            It meant any color short of dark brown basically. This is also attested by the fact that they described brown bears using that word.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            q.e.d, as I already remarked, you choose to pick the least common one because you don't like the fact that it is overwhelmingly used for golden-yellow things, hence why every single dictionary reports yellow as the basic definition

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            In case of humans, xanthos almost always meant brown.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's genetically impossible, sorry. Either they looked like Meds (genetically) but had blond hair, or xanthous meant brownish hair.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jump compare this to how greeks described northern barbarians like thracians and gauls and u'll see its totally different words

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Three most powerful greek gods, Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, were black haired.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is snowBlack person cope of the highest degree lmao

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The famous roman-scandinavian contacts lol

    Slaves in rome were principaly anatolians. Ie: modern southern italians

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Northern slaves were stronger so they were used in mines or were used as soldiers. The Eastern slaves were more educated which is why they survived, reproduced and acquired citizenship.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Plutarch
    >ὁ Σιμωνίδης φησὶ τὴν μέλιτταν ξανθὸν μέλι μηδομέναν
    meli = honey = ξανθόν

    Aristoteles
    >τὸ δὲ πῦρ καὶ ὁ ἥλιος ξανθά
    fire and sun = ξανθά

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      q.e.d, as I already remarked, you choose to pick the least common one because you don't like the fact that it is overwhelmingly used for golden-yellow things, hence why every single dictionary reports yellow as the basic definition

      but as a descriptor for human hair, it would most likely meant some variety of brown or tawny hair.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    According to modern Greeks, about 40% of them have xanthos hair.
    >A study from 2013 for prediction of hair and eye colour from DNA of the Greek people showed that the self-reported phenotype frequencies according to hair and eye colour categories was as follows: 119 individuals – hair colour, 11 blond, 45 dark blond/light brown, 49 dark brown, 3 brown red/auburn and 11 had black hair; eye colour, 13 with blue, 15 with intermediate (green, heterochromia) and 91 had brown eye colour.[267]
    It is definitely not nordic blonde

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think that was ever in dispute outside of people like Varg shitting up English language forums with their headcanon.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's chestnut, southern europeans will see chestnut hair and call you "almost blonde" even if you are clearly not blonde
      t. is living in spain

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        That type of hair does look a bit golden in the light of the sun tbh

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >40% dark blond/light brown
      Demonstratively false

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        his making a point about how shitty translating greek words are to english. Ofc they're not 40% dark blonde, their word for brown/light brown just translates as such

        >Zeus is described as having blue eyes and often white hair
        why do moronic /misc/cels just go online and make shit up? Zeus hair color is never mentioned, however, he is mentioned with a dark brow. Poseidon and Hades, his brothers, both have black hair.

        he is mentioned with black beard too

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Ofc they're not 40% dark blonde, their word for brown/light brown just translates as such
          They aren't 40% "light brown" either

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ancient Rome, blond hair was initially considered to be a symbol of a prostitute,

    No it wasn't. It was a yellow toga.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    women in Europe were depicted as fair skin for centuries. Men as darker skin. it was more fashionable for women to be lighter skinned so they avoided sun light.
    it's not a racial thing. you spend just too much time on this website.

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