He regretted sex with a fat girl, so WSU found Rose guilty of rape

Buzzfeed has a long article on the plight of a young woman identified only by her middle name, Rose, who was expelled from Washington State University after the school’s Office of Equal Opportunity (OEO) concluded that she had subjected a male student to “unwanted, nonconsensual sexual contact” and was “a danger” to other students.

Rose at Wapato Park in Tacoma, Washington. Photo credit: Bethanie Mitchell / Buzzfeed News.

Documents published by Buzzfeed show that on a night in January 2014, when Rose was midway through her freshman year at WSU, she joined the complainant and several friends of his in drinking games a lounge at the dorm. After a while, Rose and her “victim” went back to her room and started kissing. Rose asked if he had a condom, and the young man went back to the lounge to get one from his friends; one of them later testified that “everyone in the room said, ‘You don’t want to do this,’” but he “laughed and then left.”

Back in Rose’s room, the pair made a fumbling attempt at intercourse and had mutual oral sex, then showered together and continued sexual activity in the shower. (The encounter was briefly interrupted when the male student’s friends knocked on the door to check up on him, ostensibly to say goodnight.) After the shower, the “victim” wanted to leave but Rose kept asking him to wait; eventually, he left to rejoin his friends.

Over the next few days, the young man was repeatedly teased by dorm mates about his drunken tryst with Rose—which Rose believes had to do with the fact that she is short and overweight. Facetious messages urging prayers for him because he’d been “taken advantage of” showed up on a couple of whiteboards on dorm doors. Eventually, this chatter reached a resident adviser, who was obligated to report possible sexual misconduct under Title IX regulations. After a meeting with WSU’s Title IX coordinator, the male student decided to file a complaint.

Rose—who unsuccessfully filed a counter-complaint asserting that she was the one too drunk to consent, though she admitted to Buzzfeed she did so solely to “prove a point”—was summarily ejected from the dorm. In August, she was found “responsible” for several violations of the WSU disciplinary code, including sexual misconduct, reckless endangerment, discrimination and harassment. She was expelled from the university and barred from its campus until 2020.

The letter Rose received from OEO states that the male student’s version was accepted over hers for several reasons. The witnesses testified that he was very drunk, to the point of “slurring his speech, having difficulty balancing, and [being] unable to form clear sentences.” (The letter skips over the fact that one of the three witnesses contradicted this description, saying the complainant seemed “fairly fine” when seen in Rose’s room.) None of them backed Rose’s claim that she herself was badly inebriated, stumbling and “walk[ing] against a wall.” Rose’s admitted clear memory of the night’s events was another strike against her; since the complainant had “at best, spotty” memories, he was judged to have been the more impaired of the two.

Oddly, Rose’s text messages to a friend later that night, confirming her intoxication and asserting that the complainant’s friends had been deliberately trying to get her drunk, were disregarded because, according to the OEO’s document, “it is not clear how the timing of the text messages corresponds to the timing of the events of that evening.” Rose also says that a friend living in the same residence hall who could verify parts of her account was never contacted. And the investigators seem to have given little weight to the fact that the witnesses testifying against Rose were all friends of the complainant’s who seemed disgusted by the idea of their friend being intimate with her.

In the end, the investigation found “insufficient information to determine the amount of alcohol consumed by” Rose—but concluded that, “more likely than not,” she was not too drunk to know what she was doing. On the other hand, the male student was judged to have been so intoxicated that he “lacked the ability to understand the nature or consequences of his actions”—even though he walked from Rose’s room back to the lounge to ask his friends for a condom.

Rose was deemed guilty not only of having sexual contact with the young man when she should have known he was incapable of giving consent, but of making repeated attempts to “isolate” her victim. How? Among other things, she opened the door only a crack when his friends knocked to say goodnight. (Who but a rapist would balk at letting three or four people barge in on a naked make-out session?) And, several hours after the encounter, she sent him a Facebook message saying “I miss you.”

The accounts by the complainant and his witnesses leave little doubt that his drunken tryst with Rose was a bad experience—perhaps especially sordid because, according to him, it was his first time. Both he and his friends said that he didn’t find Rose attractive and would “absolutely not” have had sex with her when sober; his friends testified that immediately after the encounter, he told them he had “screwed up” and “should not have done this.” The complainant himself told investigators he felt “uncomfortable” and “violated” afterward. But this seems to be a fairly clear-cut case of alcohol-clouded judgment, not incapacitation.

And what about Rose, who told Buzzfeed she’d had something of a crush on her “victim”? It’s pretty clear she behaved badly in her quest for his affections, even trying to entice him back to her room by falsely claiming he had left his student ID card there. But the evidence in the case files shows her to be socially awkward and needy, not predatory, and her punishment seems grossly excessive: after being expelled from WSU and having her appeal rejected, she was also denied admission to another nearby university because her record makes her a “risk.”

It is also worth noting that the “victim” in this case, who declined to speak to Buzzfeed, may not have wanted the “assailant” punished at all. He did not pursue a complaint until encouraged to do so by college officials (which is also true of many female accusers); he also asked OEO to drop the case twice, saying he simply wanted was no further contact with Rose. The request was denied.

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  1. 4 years ago
    Misos proven wrong

    The silence of the misogynists is deafening. Says everything.

    • 4 years ago
      Finally some justice

      Im surprised this hasnt already been deleted.

    • 4 years ago
      Get the fuck out with your bullshit

      Misandrists. You mean misandrists.

      • 3 years ago
        Misandtriste

        Ironic that men are so cucked that they cannot even get the word 'misandry' understood, even when they are focusing on and trying to do so. Let alone those still blue-pilled or whatever one calls it.

  2. 4 years ago
    no fat chicks

    What the frick is this
    Back in my day homies had to own up to porking a she-boar.

  3. 4 years ago
    Jake

    Lmao how does it feel biznatches

  4. 4 years ago
    Finally some justice

    Thankyou for posting this.

    Its good to see women finally being held to the same standards that men are.

    A rapist (by feminist standards) was expelled from a college for raping someone (by feminist standards) in that she took advantage of someone drunk.

    Ill be sure to archive this somewhere before it vanishes from the internet.

  5. 4 years ago
    Prairie

    I thought it'd be interesting to swap the genders, in case it sheds any light on things.

    She regretted sex with a fat guy, so WSU found Dan guilty of rape. Dan's life has been devastated by a complaint made after his partner was teased about fooling around with a big guy.

    Buzzfeed has a long article on the plight of a young man identified only by his middle name, Dan, who was expelled from Washington State University after the school’s Office of Equal Opportunity (OEO) concluded that he had subjected a female student to “unwanted, nonconsensual sexual contact” and was “a danger” to other students.

    Documents published by Buzzfeed show that on a night in January 2014, when Dan was midway through his freshman year at WSU, he joined the complainant and several friends of her in drinking games a lounge at the dorm. After a while, Dan and his “victim” went back to his room and started kissing. Dan asked if she had a condom, and the young woman went back to the lounge to get one from her friends; one of them later testified that “everyone in the room said, ‘You don’t want to do this,’” but she “laughed and then left.”

    Back in Dan’s room, the pair made a fumbling attempt at intercourse and had mutual oral sex, then showered together and continued sexual activity in the shower. (The encounter was briefly interrupted when the female student’s friends knocked on the door to check up on her, ostensibly to say goodnight.) After the shower, the “victim” wanted to leave but Dan kept asking her to wait; eventually, she left to rejoin her friends.

    Over the next few days, the young woman was repeatedly teased by dorm mates about her drunken tryst with Dan—which Dan believes had to do with the fact that he is short and overweight. Facetious messages urging prayers for her because she’d been “taken advantage of” showed up on a couple of whiteboards on dorm doors. Eventually, this chatter reached a resident adviser, who was obligated to report possible sexual misconduct under Title IX regulations. After a meeting with WSU’s Title IX coordinator, the female student decided to file a complaint.

    Dan—who unsuccessfully filed a counter-complaint asserting that he was the one too drunk to consent, though he admitted to Buzzfeed he did so solely to “prove a point”—was summarily ejected from the dorm. In August, he was found “responsible” for several violations of the WSU disciplinary code, including sexual misconduct, reckless endangerment, discrimination and harassment. He was expelled from the university and barred from its campus until 2020.

    The letter Dan received from OEO states that the female student’s version was accepted over his for several reasons. The witnesses testified that she was very drunk, to the point of “slurring her speech, having difficulty balancing, and [being] unable to form clear sentences.” (The letter skips over the fact that one of the three witnesses contradicted this description, saying the complainant seemed “fairly fine” when seen in Dan’s room.) None of them backed Dan’s claim that he himself was badly inebriated, stumbling and “walk[ing] against a wall.” Dan’s admitted clear memory of the night’s events was another strike against hers; since the complainant had “at best, spotty” memories, she was judged to have been the more impaired of the two.

    Oddly, Dan’s text messages to a friend later that night, confirming his intoxication and asserting that the complainant’s friends had been deliberately trying to get him drunk, were disregarded because, according to the OEO’s document, “it is not clear how the timing of the text messages corresponds to the timing of the events of that evening.” Dan also says that a friend living in the same residence hall who could verify parts of his account was never contacted. And the investigators seem to have given little weight to the fact that the witnesses testifying against Dan were all friends of the complainant’s who seemed disgusted by the idea of their friend being intimate with his.

    In the end, the investigation found “insufficient information to determine the amount of alcohol consumed by” Dan—but concluded that, “more likely than not,” he was not too drunk to know what he was doing. On the other hand, the female student was judged to have been so intoxicated that she “lacked the ability to understand the nature or consequences of her actions”—even though she walked from Dan’s room back to the lounge to ask her friends for a condom.

    Dan was deemed guilty not only of having sexual contact with the young woman when he should have known she was incapable of giving consent, but of making repeated attempts to “isolate” his victim. How? Among other things, he opened the door only a crack when her friends knocked to say goodnight. (Who but a rapist would balk at letting three or four people barge in on a naked make-out session?) And, several hours after the encounter, he sent her a Facebook message saying “I miss you.”

    The accounts by the complainant and her witnesses leave little doubt that her drunken tryst with Dan was a bad experience—perhaps especially sordid because, according to her, it was her first time. Both she and her friends said that she didn’t find Dan attractive and would “absolutely not” have had sex with his when sober; her friends testified that immediately after the encounter, she told them she had “screwed up” and “should not have done this.” The complainant himself told investigators she felt “uncomfortable” and “violated” afterward. But this seems to be a fairly clear-cut case of alcohol-clouded judgment, not incapacitation.

    And what about Dan, who told Buzzfeed he’d had something of a crush on his “victim”? It’s pretty clear he behaved badly in his quest for her affections, even trying to entice her back to his room by falsely claiming she had left her student ID card there. But the evidence in the case files shows his to be socially awkward and needy, not predatory, and his punishment seems grossly excessive: after being expelled from WSU and having his appeal rejected, he was also denied admission to another nearby university because his record makes his a “risk.”

    It is also worth noting that the “victim” in this case, who declined to speak to Buzzfeed, may not have wanted the “assailant” punished at all. She did not pursue a complaint until encouraged to do so by college officials (which is also true of many male accusers); she also asked OEO to drop the case twice, saying she simply wanted was no further contact with Dan. The request was denied.

  6. 4 years ago
    Toxic Straight White Male

    Equality is a b***h, ehh feminists? This Couch-Bison clearly raped and took advantage of this young inebriated gentleman. He revoked his consent after his support group gave him the confidence to stand up to his rapist. No one in their right mind would ever want to be caught riding a fatty in front of their friends.

    This predatory calorie Hoarder needs to be punished to the full extent of the law, for equality. An example needs to be made out of this fatty-feminist so as a society we can have the true equality that feminisms demand. The kind of equality men suffer in the court system.

    No sympathy at all for the Fat Elemental sex predators.

    • 4 years ago
      Nunya Bussniss

      Agreed! Regret Sex is Rape!

    • 4 years ago
      only a base level of empathy required

      Well, you certainly are toxic. Your friends too. Did this get linked on IQfy?

      • 3 years ago
        Misandtriste

        "only a base level of empathy required" -You STILL don't get it, do you? Women do NOT have empathy for men, and men are waking up to that fact and refusing to be fricked-over unequally by the rules, unwritten and written. Yet they currently ARE being fricked-over and female lack of empathy goes so far as to impose flat out delusion in ignoring this elephant in the room. This delusion is being pushed by the Feminist false narrative.
        The Empathy Gap is real and these days it is against MEN, not women (although men who on the CURRENTLY-rare occasion, do not get trained to respect women, can also show an empathy gap towards women, which is what so-called Rape Culture is identifying - yet most men and boys have a protective instinct and otherwise fear of societal punishment, so learn to virtue-signal their compliance with female-dominated societal rules).

      • 3 years ago
        Misandtriste

        Gloria Steinem herself: "The truth shall set you free, but first it will piss you off".

  7. 4 years ago
    Bob Roberts

    Funny how this happens to men, and no-one gives a shit.

    This short fat woman has "feminism" to blame.

  8. 4 years ago
    Nunya Bussniss

    Regret Rape was used against many of my college friends. Nice to see it finally being used equally.

    • 3 years ago
      Misandtriste

      In ONE case. Now how's about the other million or so out there - in perhaps this year alone?

  9. 4 years ago
    Bix

    Behold! EQUALITY!

  10. 4 years ago
    Matt

    #metoo backfires stupendously!

  11. 4 years ago
    binro binro

    "which Rose believes had to do with the fact that she is short and overweight."

    That's BS. Only women care how tall a partner is.

    • 3 years ago
      Misandtriste

      The level of ignorance about male needs is proportionate to the lack of empathy for male needs.

      • 2 years ago
        Ultra Fem

        Yeah but your also being a homosexual about it. Shut up and get some pussy loser

  12. 4 years ago
    John Apple

    This is exactly what you get, you stupid c**ts. Enjoy the bed you’ve made.

    • 1 year ago
      Patrick S Tomlinson

      Took the words right out of my mouth

  13. 4 years ago
    Redpill

    Here's another female who willingly gets drunk and cries rape after sleeping with a (presumably ugly) guy
    https://www.reddit.com/r/askTO/comments/ekdw06/deciding_to_report_my_rapist/ . The amount of asspats the OP gets in that thread is sickening

    • 2 years ago
      NoThanks

      Hold up, you seriously comparing these two stories, one claims to be dragged from point A to point B while weaving in and out consciousness and being taken advantage of sexually, whereas this story depicts a guy who regrets fricking a fatty, I’m sure there is more to both but I don’t care to dig further.

  14. 3 years ago
    Chad

    This article promotes rape culture by casting a predator in a sympathetic light. In case you didn't know, rapists are bad people.

    • 1 year ago
      Patrick S Tomlinson

      I agree. Its very disturbing. Rose should spend the rest of her life in a prison cell

  15. 3 years ago
    Misandtriste

    "But the evidence in the case files shows her to be socially awkward and needy, not predatory"
    Didn't stop a lot of people hating me for merely wanting sex - and offering it to women below my league but in a non-correct manner. They wanted it, too. Just got punished for not conforming to the female unwritten rules under impossible circumstances. What lovely people... and they wonder where rape culture if it existed might come from...

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