>single-handedly kills and buries philosophy once and for all

>single-handedly kills and buries philosophy once and for all

why does IQfy hate him so much?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who? I don't keep track of men.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That explains why you probably don't remember you father.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I could kick his gay ass and therefore do not care

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is he that language guy? i've got no idea what he said tbh

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He basically revealed that all words are just pointers to real-world stuff - therefore all philosophical problems come from assuming that every syntactically correct question must be semantically correct. Which isn't true.

      E.g.
      >"what's the purpose of this building" = what do people use this building for
      >"what's the purpose of life" = what do ??? use life for -> meaningless question

      He basically said "say it clearly or GTFO" to all philosophers before him

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. And it spawned logical positivism. Then when he saw what that turned into he wrote another book and the first sentence was something like,
        "If a man were to say he did not know if he had a hand, this wouldn't be intelligible to us. It may be sound and precise, but it means nothing to us as people. He sounds insane."

        So he basically, didn't refute his prior philosophy, but just realized it was a nebulous problem as relates to the experience of life. The positivists were doing weirdo shit like trying to create a periodic table of axioms, and at some point I'd imagine Wittgenstein looked at that and said holy shit what have I spawned.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That sounds like saying obvious stuff and thinking it's profound, meh

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah but he formalized it in a language academiagays understand. He BTFOd them with their own weapons.

          Any moron can say "hurr philosophy is meaningless", but it takes a genius to explain why in a pedantic way.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >apophantic tautologies

        He & Heidegger make good tag-team partners; it has yet to be synthesized.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That’s fine but most of his ilks’ disregard for metaphysics irks me.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How wasn't that already obvious?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The second one is not problematic as soon as you realize we have no free will to use our life in any way purpoted by the question. You can own a builiding and use it, you don't own yourself and can't use you.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wut? He's one of our favorites.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit i fricking love this orangutan-stealing man

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I must now read everything he ever wrote.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Was he autistic?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Almost certainly, although that diagnosis didn't exist yet. However, and

        I must now read everything he ever wrote.

        , I'm pretty sure those particular quotes were made up by IQfy. He did do some odd stuff though.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >single handedly kills and buries philosophy once and for all
    >says nvm and then argues the exact opposite
    This guy wasn't even sure himself, then everyone else pretended to understand that he's a genius. Probably pissed him off.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Any adequately wise person will in fact not be sure of himself. We don't even need to leave the classics to understand that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, I'm not blaming Wittgenstein. I think his admission was probably one of the few times any philosopher acted like an honest man and he deserves all the credit in the world for it.
        But the culture that bred around his works depicting him as a genius probably annoyed him for that exact reason.
        The geniuses always know that they literally don't understand shit, then people read their work where they're grappling with this and celebrate them for their understanding.
        It would drive me nuts.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think people like that would be driven nuts already as teenagers when they see what the people around them are doing. By the time you're publishing, teaching and old, you should've gotten used to it already.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    sage

    He BTFO Russell. That's all it matters.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wdym?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He literally BTFO Karl Popper.
        With a fire poker. There's a book about it.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >philosophical problems are caused by arbitrary semantic choices and failures
    Did I get it right?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    slightly-smarter-tier midwit filter

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >calls you a midwit
      >doesn't elaborate
      >leaves
      holy chad

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >IQfy hates qt sperger twinks
    Do you have the wrong board?

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Saying he killed and buried philosophy may be a bit extreme but I am a fan.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What serious philosophical question remains after Wittgenstein?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ummmm let's see...every single one of them

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well then, you shouldn't have any problem listing one (1) of them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What is reality? For starters.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What is reality
            The world is everything that is the case.
            The world is the totality of facts, not of things.
            The world is determined by the facts,and by these being all the facts.
            For the totality of facts determines both what is the case, and also all that is not the case
            The facts in logical space are the world.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            OK, those are truisms.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, they're not.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They literally are.
            >the definition of a word is what it means and also infers its opposite
            Wow so wild

            t. doesn't know
            I don't know why people on IQfy would even pretend to have read the Tractatus, there have probably been 3 anons total since the inception of the board who could even read the whole thing

            I read the entire thing when I was 22 years old. Sniff up on your own farts a Lil more G. It's just not that good. I remember reading it and understanding it but also seeing through it as I was reading it, and as this anon points out

            It's 75 pages of shit communication that Wittgenstein himself makes look moronic by what he wrote on semantics and language games later on.

            I then read his later books and was like OK phew even this guy realizes that shit was just autistic nonsense

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I read the entire thing when I was 22 years old. [...] I remember reading it and understanding it but also seeing through it as I was reading it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I did. I'm pretty smart and always had talent for understanding philosophical arguments. It's not a brag it just true its the only thing thats ever made much natural sense to me

            Why are people so insecure

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why are people so insecure
            You seem like the insecure one, going around telling people you're smart and talented
            Besides, there are many people out there who believe they are smart and talented (delusion), when in fact they are not (reality)

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I say it as a matter of fact because it's evident through my experience. I don't think I'm smarter or more talented than I am and merely said this because you implied that I wasn't smart or talented enough to have done it. In other words, I'm realistically secure in my abilities, and you drew first blood.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            t. doesn't know
            I don't know why people on IQfy would even pretend to have read the Tractatus, there have probably been 3 anons total since the inception of the board who could even read the whole thing

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's 75 pages of shit communication that Wittgenstein himself makes look moronic by what he wrote on semantics and language games later on.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nta but Wittgenstein did say that the book would likely only be understood by those who had at some point thought the same thoughts he had expressed. I read it 3 times while I was in prison and I remember thinking this guy had definitely been a prisoner at some point, or perhaps something close to it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nta but Wittgenstein did say that the book would likely only be understood by those who had at some point thought the same thoughts he had expressed.
            I definitely don't get it. He seems to presuppose his own entire worldview in the writing of Tractatus- before he even makes his initial assertions. At the same time he won't bother elaborating on his core beliefs, axioms, to an extent needed for an outsider to hone in on exactly what he means. He's playing an almost private language-game, where someone like me is left guessing for the rules.

            It's an ego-project.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe you should try reading the Tractatus next time.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm happy for you if you share your worldview with someone so notable. Do you feel good about yourself?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This dumb israelite didn't kill philosophy, Hegel did

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >push hermetic religion into the mainstream
      >kill philosophy
      lol

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    His life seems very interesting based on his wiki. What's the best biography on him?

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    religion
    Bait used to be believable

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fact
    >case
    >thing
    What the frick are these supposed to mean?

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bros it makes me sad that you love him so much because his philosophy is the perfect depiction of why autism kills the soul, literally. The fact that his arguments were all flawless is the exact reason they don't actually tell anybody anything, that's why he spazzed about semantics and language games later, it hit him at some point that that type of merely descriptive, logical truth is totally worthless, regardless of its truth content.

    Imagine you're at a party and someone goes oh my God guys what's the point of this game and some fedora wearing homosexual in the corner goes "heh heh well the point of the game is determined by what the people playing the game want it to be based on their objective in playing the game, this is necessarily the case" then smiles like a tryhard butthole and everyone shrugs and goes back to figuring out the game. And he's like "but guys I'm right like thats a perfect argument there's no flaw, guys" and now they're drinking and having fun "guys think about it like that has to be true, that's what the point is" people are upstairs getting laid he's in the corner by himself "I conquered all philosophy"

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    but what about abstract mathematics? or the fact that a limitless amount of the world lies outside the boundrys of proof?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick
      What about the experience of having a bond with your dog
      What's Wittgenstein got to say about that

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I relate to him a lot as a person but I'm not a philosopher and havr never read any so he's cut off from me

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