So is Hell really forever?

So If I will go to Hell if I die without repenting.

Can I at least go to Heaven by repenting in Hell?

How else did Jesus ascend to heaven from Hell?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >So If I will go to Hell if I die without repenting.
    Yes.
    >Can I at least go to Heaven by repenting in Hell?
    If you were to repent in Hell, you wouldn't want to leave Hell, since repentance would mean that you'd acknowledge God's punishment over you as righteous and you'd wish it to continue, you wouldn't think that a damned soul as yours deserves to be allowed into Heaven.
    >How else did Jesus ascend to heaven from Hell?
    By being God and sovereign over all.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Can I at least go to Heaven by repenting in Hell?
    It's a moot question because the damned will never repent. Nobody will repent without the intervention of the Holy Spirit, and the damned have already been abandoned by God.
    >How else did Jesus ascend to heaven from Hell?
    He didn't, He ascended to heaven from earth, and He wasn't in hell because He belonged there anyways.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Shut your filthy mouth, c*lvinist.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's a moot question because the damned will never repent.
      This, you think Hell is filled with poor remorseful souls begging for mercy to God? No, they're all cursing Him without stop, wishing for Him to be overthrown to end their misery, because they don't acknowledge His sovereignty, that He is Lord, they see Him as a cosmic tyrant, which He is to the wicked.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > This, you think Hell is filled with poor remorseful souls begging for mercy to God? No, they're all cursing Him without stop, wishing for Him to be overthrown to end their misery, because they don't acknowledge His sovereignty, that He is Lord, they see Him as a cosmic tyrant, which He is to the wicked.
        That is what any rational person would do to if sentenced to infinite torture for the actions of a life that lasted less than an instant. If what Christians claim is true, then God is a being of pure sadism
        Here’s a question I’ve always wanted to ask to Christians: if by going to hell yourself, you were able to save 5 others from going to hell, would this be a noble sacrifice?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There is no such thing as finite sin.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >That is what any rational person would do
          The wicked are not rational
          >God is a being of pure sadism
          This, right here, is why you are going to hell.
          >if by going to hell yourself, you were able to save 5 others from going to hell, would this be a noble sacrifice?
          Yes.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > This, right here, is why you are going to hell.
            So much of Christianity just boils down to “don’t call god a monster, or he will do monstrous things to you”
            I can see why that line keeps keeps Christians in line, but I don’t believe in your stupid god, so I can call a spade a spade

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >That is what any rational person would do
            The wicked are not rational
            >God is a being of pure sadism
            This, right here, is why you are going to hell.
            >if by going to hell yourself, you were able to save 5 others from going to hell, would this be a noble sacrifice?
            Yes.

            Yes, it's the religion of servile moronic cowards.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >So much of Christianity just boils down to “don’t call god a monster, or he will do monstrous things to you”
            God is a tyrant to the wicked, yes.
            >I can see why that line keeps keeps Christians in line
            His love is what keeps us in line, in my experience those who obsess over hell and live in perpetual fear of it, rather than focusing on God's love, are always the one on their way out of the religion.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >rather than focusing on God's love, are always the one on their way out of the religion.
            Probably because they realize how moronic that concept

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, they just focused on the wrong things, they could not bear the anxiety, which is stupid, if you just don't want to worry about Hell anymore, repent, love God, keep His commandments, do His works, it's really that simple. If after doing this you keep obsessing over going to Hell, that means you don't really trust God or His promise of forgiveness.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Just believe in non sense that has never been proven or the sky daddy will fry you. Just don't think. That's what you're saying. You're guinely moronic.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > If after doing this you keep obsessing over going to Hell, that means you don't really trust God or His promise of forgiveness.
            No you are missing the point - the “obsession” with hell isn’t about fear for myself
            Imagine you are in a school where all of the kids are being fed into a wood-chipper one by one unless their parents taught them the lyrics to the “I don’t want to go into the woodchipper” song.
            Now take a step back here. Is the only upsetting thing here that you might not get the words right, and end up in the woodchipper? No, it’s that the whole scenario is ghastly and horrifying. What kind of monster creates a system in which kids are fed into the woodchipper in the first place?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >No you are missing the point - the “obsession” with hell isn’t about fear for myself
            If you're a non-believer, sure. But I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about those who left the faith because of their perpetual obsession with Hell that they couldn't get over. Like I said, they focused on the wrong things.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why would people leave the faith if they believe in Hell? Shouldn't it be the opposite?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Anxiety. The idea of Hell is too stressing for them to hold so they just stop believing. That is, by his own admission, why Tyler Vela left Christianity. Which to me is absurd.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >if you just don't want to worry about Hell anymore, repent, love God, keep His commandments, do His works, it's really that simple.
            Please explain to me how this is any different from
            >if you just don't want to worry about abuse anymore, apologize, love your husband, keep his commandments, do his tasks, it's really that simple

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            In the former, the individual is being rightfully punished for his sins and refusing to repent from them by a perfect judge. In the latter a human is being abused by another human being for unjustified reasons.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >why is God treating me like a monster for doing monstrous things?
            You can burn in hell for your sins too, fool.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >if by going to hell yourself, you were able to save 5 others from going to hell, would this be a noble sacrifice?
          Absolutely not, why would you throw away to the hellfire that which belongs to God and only God? You do not have the right to throw your life away.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you're going to boil in excrement for eternity while I laugh from heaven

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going to rape and kill you then accept christ years later so I can spend eternity in heaven reminding you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm gonna trick God
        no youre not

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Who does he think he is, a Rabbi?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "Hell" as you likely think it (some eternal place of torment) is as canon as the one in HH

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >"Hell" as you likely think it (some eternal place of torment)
      >“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
      Matthew 25:41-46

      This is Jesus talking, btw.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        On a related note, the fate of every based tradlarp internet crusader:
        Matthew 7:22-23
        >On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wild how people completely miss the point that Jesus was making here - he was, in the strongest possible language, reprimanding people who turn their backs on the needy, and instead his words get twisted into “all nonbelievers get tortured for eternity”

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How is it twisting His words when Jesus specifically says:
          >Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment
          Why do you keep ignoring the "eternal punishment" part of His sentence?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How is it twisting His words when Jesus specifically says:
          >Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment
          Why do you keep ignoring the "eternal punishment" part of His sentence?

          Also, my point in posting that verse was disproving the notion that "eternal punishment" is a later invention that is found nowhere in the Bible. As this anon said:

          "Hell" as you likely think it (some eternal place of torment) is as canon as the one in HH

          I proved him wrong, Jesus explicitly mentions eternal punishment is real.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          But obviously Christians are good people who help the needy and non-Christians are bad people who neglect them 🙂

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The majority of charities are run by Christians, so, yes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What is the argument that it is the state of suffering that will last forever, instead of just the place or decision?
        I always found it weird how "eternal life" is used to describe the final reward, since anyone undergoing eternal punishment is also technically living

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >What is the argument that it is the state of suffering that will last forever, instead of just the place or decision?
          You should at the very least acknowledge it as a valid interpretation and a very real possibility. Certainly not discard it outright.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Fair point, personally I just find it strange given theologians still debate over whether or not those verses about punishment means "you will be consciously burning forever" but that's become the culturally-accepted depiction of Hell

            >I always found it weird how "eternal life" is used to describe the final reward, since anyone undergoing eternal punishment is also technically living
            I really don't think those in Hell being punished find comfort in knowing that they will live eternally, just to continue suffering forever onwards.

            Of course not, and it could be a figure of speech since few might actually consider that state "living". Just seems like a weird dichotomy to mention if the persistence of consciousness/life after death is the default regardless of where you go

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I always found it weird how "eternal life" is used to describe the final reward, since anyone undergoing eternal punishment is also technically living
          I really don't think those in Hell being punished find comfort in knowing that they will live eternally, just to continue suffering forever onwards.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The verse refers to the punishment as being eternal, not the place in which the punishment is taking place.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wow that homosexual cartoon you keep spanning sure got popular really organically

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I mean as organically as any other "popular" show nowadays, it's having its moment, it'll be forgotten in a month.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody has proven its existence let alone its duration, which would be impossible to prove since clocks can't measure infinity. Any more questions?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sure and Narnia is a fantastic kingdom that can be accessed through a closet.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >If you could keep this cultist shit off IQfy, I think that'd be great.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, RELIGION, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Fair, I just want see more law, classic art, archeology and anthropology instead of 500 threads of
        >My god is better than yours
        >Nuh-uh
        >Yuh-uh
        >Your gae
        >Your mom
        >Whatabout joos!

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is this hazbin hotel? I’ve only been on this board for 5 minutes but it already fricking sucks.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There's no question to be posed, you're unholy, case closed.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >So is Hell really forever?
    no. the wages of sin is death.
    only the faithful get eternal life.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Does perpetual suffering in Hell really count as life?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Best part about that show is how pretty much nobody understands it so people like me who do are able to get it like an inside joke. Pretty brave of HBO to run it but like I said, the normies won't understand it anyway.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >So If I will go to Hell if I die without repenting.
    Yes
    >Can I at least go to Heaven by repenting in Hell?
    No, but Jesus says a lot of things about Hell which lead me to believe it isn't forever.
    >How else did Jesus ascend to heaven from Hell?
    Because he is both God and because he doesn't deserve to be there.

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