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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >perfect for drafting forward without distraction
    Is that because the only editing tool is the backspace key?

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh look! The new TRS-80 Model 100!

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Amazing how far tech has come. In the past 40 years of development the only differene is that now we've lost the built-in printer and floppy disc drives.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      and gained Botnet Cloud Sync(tm)

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      is that Spiral bound, college ruled perfection?
      The Pinnacle of Caligraphy!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      To swindle hipster morons out of money.

      Based.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i have a shitty laptop with a snapped wifi card that I use to write. It runs Debian 10 and KDE with offline dictionaries. I am planning to upgrade it to Debian 12 one of these days.
      but generally I just start it up, open a text editor and just start writing. If I need math then I switch to a markdown editor with mathml or katex support.
      I have all these shitty laptops that are perfect for underpowered tasks like writing. I've contained the internet to two devices; a tablet for reading and consoooming and a decently powerful workstation that I try my damndest to only use for programming.
      I got a steam deck for video games to avoid using my workstation for them. (and infecting my debian installs with nonfree shit)

      i used to use paper. works good, actually. Copying it all into the computer can take forever (although, you do end up proof-reading everything as you copy from paper to computer. so there's that) I use the offline laptop mostly for editing.
      If I need to draft I unironically fricking use ed. Otherwise I will fricking nitpick my writing forever
      t. IQfygay

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Between this and those small AI devices has there been a high amount of garbage nonsense fad devices that are all strictly inferior to cheaper, older tech or is it just me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's stems from a refusal to acknowledge that the reason that certain people can't get things done is due to themselves.
      Smartphones/tablets can replace almost every single dedicated device and pretty much have, but they have been scapegoated as a reason why people can't get anything done because it does too much and thus has distractions

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I could see the appeal if their prices made any sense
    They are already at the same price as laptops. You could make your own version of OPs pic for less than $50.
    What the frick are these people smoking?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've often seen it recommended to "write first, edit later". Personally I do my writing in a web tool, and it's annoying to need to sign in & re-open my documents in it every time I start a session. I can understand the appeal of a device that makes it easy to start writing - push the on button and start typing - while also disincentivizing editing by making it exceedingly painful to do on-device.

      In reality though the supposed value of these devices seems dubious. They always come with these unnecessary document sync services via WiFi and shit, or weird formats for your documents, or strange hardware limitations. I remember one model in particular that only let you have three different files on the device at a time; or like the one in this image, what's up with this weird 1-million-word limit? If I recall, the average English word if 5 characters, so what's what, 5 megabytes? Even if their justification is that it's to encourage you to pull your documents into a real editor once you've written the first draft, it just seem like penny-pinching bullshit.

      Big agree on the problem being pricing; if you could pick one of these up for $50 a lot of their sins would be more forgivable.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Personally I do my writing in a web tool, and it's annoying to need to sign in & re-open my documents in it every time I start a session
        homie, you can use a code editor.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They always come with these unnecessary document sync services via WiFi and shit
        It's more convenient than having to use an usb stick to copy a file over to your pc

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I've often seen it recommended to "write first, edit later". Personally I do my writing in a web tool, and it's annoying to need to sign in & re-open my documents in it every time I start a session. I can understand the appeal of a device that makes it easy to start writing - push the on button and start typing - while also disincentivizing editing by making it exceedingly painful to do on-device.

        Just create a shortcut and autologin and you just press one button.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm using Foundry VTT so unfortunately it's not that shrimple, I have to

          * sign in as admin
          * spin down the current game world
          * spin up the new game world
          * sign in as gamemaster
          * re-open all my documents

          Really makes me appreciate the idea of just being able to push the on button and start typing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Foundry VTT

            When you deal with arcane runes and wizardry it makes sense that you have to learn with the runes to ward against demons.

            Something created by roleplayers is never going to be a quick smooth experience because the entire hobby is about pretending to be convolution elementals. Embrace it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe it's just the price that has to be paid for trapping electricity in the sand and tricking the rocks to think, but it sure gets old. It wouldn't be so bad if I could import documents written outside the built-in editor, but I go hard with the formatting and linking between pages so it probably wouldn't be any better.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why not just use any old Wiki software? Is it just some pre-build widgets you find valuable? If so, they can be remade in most wiki engines. TiddlyWiki supports widgets, and MediaWiki also supports templates.
            Nothing says you must make your campaign books look identical to WoC ones.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I tried using a Wiki.js instance for a while, but since part of writing these documents is so players can read them during/between sessions, expecting them to jump out to a different service increases the friction too much in my opinion. Having the documents natively in Foundry also helps with linking things to stuff the players do - you can do stuff like add notes to maps which when clicked open a linked document, or you can link between documents and items or characters.

            When I was using Wiki.js I also found that editing documents in it wasn't much faster/easier; Foundry's built-in editor has gotten quite good in recent updates. Especially when I factor in needing to manually import documents (since there's not really any automatic importers for external services), an external tool would need to be a lot faster for me to justify using it.

            Do you use any tools/services in particular?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Jump to a different service
            Most wikis are just stock-boring websites they can have open in a separate tab. I don't know if players expect everything to be *directly* in Foundry without any seams, I've never used Foundry.
            >Any tools/services in particular
            I don't use many actual services. I use TiddlyWiki, it lives in a .html file on your disk. I edit on my computer and then publish as a final .html file when I need to. Very easy throw on literally any sort of website or file host.

            I'm a sysop so I am very technical, so maybe TiddlyWiki will seem a bit complicated to get going. Generally I avoid *all* services because they have gone and vanished on me in the past. I don't like anything being able to snatch my shit, especially for something as independent and self-hosting as tabletop roleplaying.
            Really value real in-person experience since no one besides my players can come in and steal my fricking books and figurines.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you forget that players are lazy and get rebellious if they have to do more than 10% of the work a DM has to do. Switching tabs sounds like a chore to them. Though there is something to be said about the prep being more elaborate and the playtime more smooth.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I self-host everything for my group (Foundry, Wiki, comms, etc.) for exactly the reason you bring up - I want full control over my group's materials, when the game system updates, etc., and I don't want to be beholden to some corpo deciding to raise the monthly subscription price or some dumb bullshit that prices my group out. I wish Foundry was OSS, but a one-time license that only the host pays for was "acceptable" to me, especially since it works so well and the ecosystem is so healthy.

            I've been playing with the same group for almost 10 years now, our playstyle is very narrative-driven; we mostly play in homebrew settings where a player will suggest an idea and we all agree "Yea, why the frick not, that's canon now," and we update our materials. So being able to easily collaborate on the documents is also something important to my setup.

            Wish we could play in-person more often, we're spread out across a couple timezones so we usually only get to meet up once a year or so. But playing online every week helps keep us in touch, so I definitely wouldn't give it up.

            you forget that players are lazy and get rebellious if they have to do more than 10% of the work a DM has to do. Switching tabs sounds like a chore to them. Though there is something to be said about the prep being more elaborate and the playtime more smooth.

            Yea my experience is if it isn't as trivial as "click the Edit button on the handout", interaction drops off hard. People just don't want to deal with tabbing out to a different service when they've got demons to smush or whatever, and the flavor-text about the realm the demons come from gets lost forever.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Build a zero writer instead.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does it have vim bindings?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is yet another one of those tools for people to own to pretend that it will make them write more. It won't actually work because you need to actually have something to say in order to write, but people will buy it anyways and by the time they figure all this out, they've already spent the money on this machine.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've also been seeing some things about people using typewriters for this kind of thing. Seems like a decent idea until you have to share a digital copy of what you wrote.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1 million words is pathetic

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      found the sumerian who wrote the epic of gilgamesh

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >$350 AlphaSmart knockoff

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this one is even worse because you can't export your writings without their cloud service

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The usb port lets you transfer files according to the website.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Using a small/foldable bt keyboard and your phone seems more practical.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like an amazing concept, you can't really compare this to a laptop or a phone since you can easily get distracted on those. We could all disconnect from the internet more often and devices like these can help with that.
    Intentional productivity is incredibly important if you want to succeed in your goals, build with founders.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’ve been trending back towards having devices that only do a few things each (I have an old phone with no SIM card that I use exclusively for checking email and NewPipe, and an iPad with all notifications turned off and most apps uninstalled that I only use for guitar practice) and it really does help with not having your attention drained by the dark pattern homosexualry. Time wasters like checking YouTube become willful acts since I have to physically grab another device. That being said…

      I could see the appeal if their prices made any sense
      They are already at the same price as laptops. You could make your own version of OPs pic for less than $50.
      What the frick are these people smoking?

      I've often seen it recommended to "write first, edit later". Personally I do my writing in a web tool, and it's annoying to need to sign in & re-open my documents in it every time I start a session. I can understand the appeal of a device that makes it easy to start writing - push the on button and start typing - while also disincentivizing editing by making it exceedingly painful to do on-device.

      In reality though the supposed value of these devices seems dubious. They always come with these unnecessary document sync services via WiFi and shit, or weird formats for your documents, or strange hardware limitations. I remember one model in particular that only let you have three different files on the device at a time; or like the one in this image, what's up with this weird 1-million-word limit? If I recall, the average English word if 5 characters, so what's what, 5 megabytes? Even if their justification is that it's to encourage you to pull your documents into a real editor once you've written the first draft, it just seem like penny-pinching bullshit.

      Big agree on the problem being pricing; if you could pick one of these up for $50 a lot of their sins would be more forgivable.

      These points are valid. Every time I’ve tried looking into special purpose devices, they’re almost always overpriced and are trying to lock you into their ecosystem. Whole point of what I’m trying to do is to get away from consooming, but these devices actively banking on it.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >word
    normies do not know what that is and neither do most programmers

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Distraction free, focused writing (typing).
    It does one thing.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The display is too miniature and cramped.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      your missing the point of this device.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Okay, and it being?
        >Muh distraction on laptop
        Well, if a person aspiring to be an author and can't even keep iron will to avoid hopping on the internet whilst writing his literary masterpiece is ngmi anyway

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't be exactly thrilled about being able to see just two lines.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ergonomic design
    >that fricking tiny keyboard
    What the actual frick.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The keyboard is manageable, the display is gay.

      I wouldn't be exactly thrilled about being able to see just two lines.

      So much this.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So why is it better than buying a cheap old shit dualcore laptop + a good battery for idk, like 60$ tops?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It'll atleast be devoid of hairs and cumstains.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This just looks like a less capable, more expensive version of the Maid Writer.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you cannot get more troonycore than that

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >troonycore
        This is a maidposting site, newmaid.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >maidposting
          more like m-AIDS

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I recommend getting an A06 core if you can. Also, I recommend using LaTeX as your writing program. Because of the wide screen, you get a two-monitor workflow on one handheld screen. You can see your LaTeX code and the compiled PDF next to it at the same time. Very nice for writing in LaTeX.

          Yes, but I wouldn't primarily use it for that because it would be slow. I mainly use mine for writing LaTeX. When I do need to look things up online, it is capable of it though.

          [...]
          I haven't tried nano specifically. I used vim on it a couple times to make some simple Java programs and it was nice for that. You can run anything available to Ubuntu on it.

          I gave mine a nicer desktop, uninstalled most default software, installed texlive-full on it and then changed settings so that if I don't give the computer any inputs for 30 seconds the screen switches off (but the computer otherwise operates normally) until I move the mouse or push a button.

          I use this to save battery when I compile LaTeX documents. I am trying to figure out how to make it play a bell noise when it completes, so I have better ideas on timing and don't waste battery by checking the screen mid build to see if my pdf is compiled yet or not.

          I am going to cause Clockwork Pi to release maid themes for the Maid Writer and their other devices, so hopefully one day a maid will get a Maid Writer and boot it up and the background desktop has maids and the booting splash screen has maids and all the icons and buttons are maid themed and LaTeX/power settings are already configured for writing.

          Why isn't the battery plugged into anything? Why is the maid plugged into a battery instead of the wall? They're sleeping, probably in bed. Are there no outlets near the bed? Also, why isn't the maid wearing maid themed underwear, or a maid hat at least?

          ywnbaw

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You just led me to discover these. Will probably buy one. Thanks anon.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.talospace.com/2022/05/mini-review-clockwork-pi-devterm-r-01.html?m=1

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I recommend getting an A06 core if you can. Also, I recommend using LaTeX as your writing program. Because of the wide screen, you get a two-monitor workflow on one handheld screen. You can see your LaTeX code and the compiled PDF next to it at the same time. Very nice for writing in LaTeX.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Probably just use it to write lidl C programs.

          I'm not really a fan of latex, do you know how well any other popular text editors such as nano work on it?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the keyboard is a miniature ergonomic nightmare

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's intended for thumb typing and is comfy when you use it that way. If you try to touch type with it you'll have a bad time, but that's true of any tool if you use it wrong.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >thumb typing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can I browse Wikipedia & IQfy on it?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, but I wouldn't primarily use it for that because it would be slow. I mainly use mine for writing LaTeX. When I do need to look things up online, it is capable of it though.

        Probably just use it to write lidl C programs.

        I'm not really a fan of latex, do you know how well any other popular text editors such as nano work on it?

        I haven't tried nano specifically. I used vim on it a couple times to make some simple Java programs and it was nice for that. You can run anything available to Ubuntu on it.

        I gave mine a nicer desktop, uninstalled most default software, installed texlive-full on it and then changed settings so that if I don't give the computer any inputs for 30 seconds the screen switches off (but the computer otherwise operates normally) until I move the mouse or push a button.

        I use this to save battery when I compile LaTeX documents. I am trying to figure out how to make it play a bell noise when it completes, so I have better ideas on timing and don't waste battery by checking the screen mid build to see if my pdf is compiled yet or not.

        I am going to cause Clockwork Pi to release maid themes for the Maid Writer and their other devices, so hopefully one day a maid will get a Maid Writer and boot it up and the background desktop has maids and the booting splash screen has maids and all the icons and buttons are maid themed and LaTeX/power settings are already configured for writing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >uptime: 1 min
      that thing is only used for taking photos of

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It is a handheld used for writing. Uptime isn't really a metric that matters.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like the idea of a "modern" typewriter but this design is utterly stupid for any long writing session. God help your neck if you type on one of these things for more than 30 minutes. At least something like this is clearly some homebrew "cyberdeck" project just to look cool, but for a real consumer product this is a disgrace.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >this

        This just looks like a less capable, more expensive version of the Maid Writer. (You) # is clearly some homebrew "cyberdeck" project just to look cool
        They're made by Clockwork Pi and are currently sold out.
        https://www.clockworkpi.com/product-page/devterm-kit-a06-series

        You can ask the support person when the Maid Writer II is coming out though. Or get a different kit and buy an A06 core.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >gaymer buttons
      For what reason?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can remap them to whatever you want. I have them as copy, cut, paste and compile LaTeX.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Writers lack the self control to use a fully featured computer connected to the internet and only write.
    So here's a shitty overpriced processor only computer.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why isn't the battery plugged into anything? Why is the maid plugged into a battery instead of the wall? They're sleeping, probably in bed. Are there no outlets near the bed? Also, why isn't the maid wearing maid themed underwear, or a maid hat at least?

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you have attention span issues, a gimmicky digital typewriter isn't going to help.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    At that point just write with pen and paper

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh N-

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >let paper dry for an hour
        >all is well
        now let's do same pic but replace paper with a plastic electronic device

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >>let paper dry for an hour
          >>all is well
          i use water-based ink on fountainpens, kek, it gets really obliterated by water

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the toy typewriter also breaks when you drop it in water. your point?

        >hurr it back it up with wifi
        if you drop it in the water you're most likely close to nature where there is no wifi to back your shit up.

        the pen and paper reigns supreme from a cost performance perspective.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    avoid distractions, but might as well buy an old thinkpad, rip off the network card, and install Gentoo with nano

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >up to 1,000,000 words of internal memory
    how did they even find a flash storage that small? kek

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >1,000,000 words
      that's like 5MB, are there flash drives that small?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the average word length is around 5, though you'd also need to count a space between them making them 6 bytes per word, to round that up the the nearest power of two that'd be 8MiB of storage

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >1,000,000 words
          that's like 5MB, are there flash drives that small?

          oh an yes, there are of course flash/eeprom chips that small, something like that could be running from something like an esp8266 with a little 8MiB SPI eeprom attached to it, off the shelf solution, tiny little low power microcontroller with wifi, external spi storage, etc, could totally do all of that pictured in op and costs frick all

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's for people who need an alternative they can use in public.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm actually planning on buying one of these. I have two models of AlphaSmarts which I like but they have too many problems with corruption and the battery.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    at my school we had things like this for the moron kids who couldn't write properly or made noises at the back of the class. perhaps this is the target demographic? along with tard schools?

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I write, I sometimes need to go back to read something off the manuscript. I use scrivener, it helps a lot to have an outline of the fragments to find what you are looking for quickly instead of scrolling up and down.
    I understand the need to push forward, and I've done it myself waiting to reread and correct until a chapter is done. But I think that mindlessly pushing forward knowing that you've made a mistake is going to cost you more time than having what you need at a grasp.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Scriviner is almost perfect it just needs a live markdown parser

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I understand the need to push forward, and I've done it myself waiting to reread and correct until a chapter is done. But I think that mindlessly pushing forward knowing that you've made a mistake is going to cost you more time than having what you need at a grasp.
      i think if you make a mistake you just write about it and then fix it later. it's about writing vs editing, and you do that at separated times

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >writing
      >on a device with no keyboard

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        so get a keyboard
        do I have to think of everything

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    idk I just bought two cheap Thinkpads for writing and threw manjarero on them. Those are for sped kids in class that have trouble writing I guess

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    baara.com/q10/
    Q10 writing app for people who use windows on a laptop. You're welcome.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >So whats the point?
    make money

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