so why did it flop?

so why did it flop?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *knocks on the door*

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        huh?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          *starts violently swirling the door handle*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      huh?

      Imagine the smell

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Overpriced, shit software lineup, used a black broccoli as advertisement, form-factor still unappealing to normies.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      B-but mark ass brown lee loved it!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No he didn’t, he upfront acknowledged it’s nothing more than a gen 1 toy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >shit software lineup
      you homosexuals are just making shit up at this point, its almost perfectly integrated into the apple ecosystem. has another headset come this far? nah.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Perfectly integrated into apple means you are in the walled garden.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          which is the competitive advantage perceived to appleboos.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Never got the whole "walled garden" insult. I love walled gardens. They're really nice.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        doesn't matter
        nothing like this matters as long as there's no tech to make headsets have the form factor of picrel
        no chance for mainstream adoption and vr becoming a capital T thing until you stop needing a heavy, bulky, stupid contraption on your head to use it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          is such thing even possible? vr will always be a niche till then.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Google AR is pretty much the same size but no one liked a smartphone camera constantly scanning them.
            The problem is people resist being constantly surveilled in obvious ways, so it's cheaper to just passively do it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I even own those VR sets like Xreal 2 but can't be bothered to put them on in public. I feel silly wearing them out. I'm not convinced even something like this with all the features of the AVP would have succeeded.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >its almost perfectly integrated into the apple ecosystem
        That's the only selling point.
        That's it.
        What other software lineup does it have? Fricking nothing because no one wants to develop for it.
        Other headsets come this far? Oculus has a much larger support and software base.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >its almost perfectly integrated into the apple ecosystem.
        In the sense that its just a way to run their apps at 3 times the price if a high end iPhone, yeah

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Name 1 (one) killer application. Not even a new application, just one thing I can do with this gay shit that I can't with my regular hardware, including my almost 10 years old HTC Vive. Sure you have better overall quality/performance (for a 3.5k$ headset its the bare fricking minimum lol) but still there's NOTHING new, nothing that gets the average coomsumer to think "hey if I had a gayVision I could do X, which no other product would provide me!". Even as a developer what's the point of investing in a hardware to address a niche (VR/AR) within another niche (Macgay ecosystem).

        The only morons praising it are:
        a) e-beggars that cannot stop sucking corporate dick for a living
        b) AR/VR professionals pretending their 2012 gimmick is still ground breaking when it's been clear that it's a great yet NICHE technology

        "Spacial computing" lmao you are 100% homosexual and moronic if you think this is the close future for the average user. Applegays keep on losing, can't wait for it to collapse when they keep increasing their prices on products that are essentially refurbished 5 years old tech with a gay logo on it lol

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >getting this worked up over what other people buy
          lol. ngmi.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unironically, what is the use case

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      Why would you use it? This is just like one of those holographic keyboard things: It SOUNDS and LOOKS cool, but is terrible in terms of usability. You're expected to wear this bulky, heavy thing on your head for hours and get work done? What kind of work can you do with it that can't be done as good as, or even better than with a regular old pc? VR headsets are gimmicky gadgets. Right now they do not exceed keyboard and mouse in terms of good, precise controls to get things done. VR/AR headsets are, at best, entertainment devices, and I struggle to see how they can be used better than the other devices for productivity.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People would tolerate it if it wasn't bulky, didn't eye strain to read text in it, lasted 8+ hours, and let you have infinite monitors. That's ultimately the use case, being able to use a "headless" computer with infinite virtual displays in an immersive environment with privacy built in especially in prison-like office environments.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "Tolerate" is a good choice for a word. If those things you listed were true, it would only make such devices less bad to use, but still not good, in my opinion.

          Even if it was comfortable to wear, had a long battery life, and allowed for effectively multimonitors/multi workspaces, being "immersed" in a screen for several hours would probably get exhausting quickly. Not that souless corps would care, but maybe people would complain enough to, at least, keep the option of using pcs instead.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Immersion means you can be put in an environment that is less stressful for you. That could mean coding on the beach surrounded by ocean noise and smooth jazz playing on a radio behind you. That's not even talking about new ways to interact with your computer when you're not confined to just a keyboard and mouse because you can interact with your computer in 3d space.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Immersion means you can be put in an environment that is less stressful for you.
            That's a good point, I hadn't considered it. I often listen to music when working to relax/focus more. If VR headsets can get more comfortable to wear, they could be a great choice for this.

            >That's not even talking about new ways to interact with your computer when you're not confined to just a keyboard and mouse because you can interact with your computer in 3d space.
            What ways, for example?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I dunno, being able to spread out your games in front of you, being able to see your digital movie collection as a physical DVD shelf, etc. Hard to know, but I do think that 3D interactivity will end up beating 2D for speed and efficiency especially when it comes to sorting visual data.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That does sound cool, but I'm not sure it will be as effective as mouse and keyboard. But I do hope for the success of this technology, I want it to work out. New tech, that doesn't try to screw you, is always fun to play around. Personally, I don't believe VR interfaces will be better to use than our current ones, especially after I got used to the command line, but I hope to be proven wrong.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If I had one it would be kinda useful because I could lie in bed and watch videos without having to awkwardly use my laptop instead

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They weren't even confident enough to release it in half the world markets lmao

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >$3,500
    >does nothing useful
    >still just another pair of homosexual goggles

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you just described any apple product

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because nobody wants VR.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      VR should just be a full sized helmet, like a motorcycle.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want one, used my friends Quest 2 for a bit a few years ago and it was pretty fun. It's just that currently it's WAY to expensive for what is essentially a video gaming peripheral.

      That said Apple making what is primarily an MR/AR headset as bulky as a traditional VR headset is insane. What were they thinking? Of course it's not gonna have mass appeal.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man that palmer lucky is such an eccentric genius. Did you know he likes to walk around barefoot? What a character. Fricking piece of shit.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why did a dev unit flop
    moron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      enlighten me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cope beyond comprehension
      LOL
      iToddlers are eternally btfoed

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >racism outside of /b/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >jannies, halp me I am a Black person!
      L M A O

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Price and battery life.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All these shit VR headsets being "incorporated" into some corpos product lineup that is monitoring you 24/7 is the problem.

    Only Gaben the Lardass had the right idea but he wasn't israeli enough for the Techworld filled with other scummy Juden with hooked noses who don't care about tech at all and just want your personal data so they can sell it to china

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a solution for a problem that doesnt exist

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marques Brownlee didn't shill it hard enough.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't meant to be a success, it's a loss leader and an advertisement for the brand

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well, they sure can tank it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's one way to call it a failure.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >loss leader
      >3500 bucks

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most importantly, to be a loss leader you need to have SOME OTHER PRODUCT that people are buying instead.
        The point of a loss leader is to make other products in that category appear more reasonably priced, so that they sell more instead.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          and how would the headset sell more Iphones? its supposed to be the other way around, appleboos who are obssessed with apple products are more likely to buy this new headset, completing their ecosystem.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            iPhones aren't the same product category.
            No one's going "wow Vision Pro is so cool but it's too expensive for me, I guess I'll get an iPhone instead".

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what is this other product that theyd buy then

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly. There is none.
            That's why it isn't a loss leader.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hey, you want to look fricking moronic?
      >buy our product
      Genius idea from the fashion accessory brand.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >fingerprints all over the door
            Bravo Musk

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lehi is a shit hole now. Most of Utah County is a shit hole now because they let 100k+ people move in without a fricking road plan.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Every time I have to commute down there, I fricking hate it. I don't do it much, usually just to go pick up some chickens in Payson, but frick me it's like going to San Jose

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Soon nature will take its course. Darwin is a helluva drug.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is the real reason VR won't take off. Look how utterly moronic a person looks twitching their hands in front of their face to interact with it. Looks schizophrenic. Don't want to look like a moronic schizo? Don't buy AVP.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It comes down to lowering the standards in society. Wearing headphones outside used to be the mark of an unapproachable, mousy, anxious sperglord. Now everyone does it and it's even a sort of status symbol for the low class.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nothing in there even operates with those gestures
        nothing but moronic gorilla marketing

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Gorilla marketing

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            See

            It was indicated by their marketing that this was a product for black people.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think you know what a loss leader is. What you're thinking of is an aspirational brand, but it's not even that because the only people talking about it are the people who were lent a free unit in exchange for talking about it. It doesn't even have good arguments for being an early adaptor product like the early folding phones as there's no evidence that Amazon is sticky in this sector.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    should have been launched in Singapore, Japan, Korea, China first to build hype
    western consoomers are just too jaded about tech and have too deal with stagnating economies

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why would expensive hardware with almost zero software available flop?
    does it hurt when you think? not even trying to be a prick, genuinely curious.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the appstore
      >zero software

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are you actually this moronic or just pretending?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          perhaps

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's no real world use case for augmented reality.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    VR is only good for things that are best enjoyed in 30 minute sessions and which benefit at least somewhat from the added immersiveness of virtual reality
    So far this has meant porn and video games, neither of which the AVP is any good at compared to its competition
    What does it do then? It runs iPad apps and lets you watch movies on Disney+/Apple TV, neither of which are appealing to consumers. Are you really gonna be wearing a fricking VR headset to watch a three hour movie or to casually browse online? The survey says no.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AR will only be good when they look like glasses. VR is only good when we get BCI.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >BCI
      I WILL NOT INSTALL A CHIP IN MY BRAIN

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sooner or later goyim, non-invasive BCIs are never reaching the point of being good enough, too much shit in the brain for it to be accurate.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was indicated by their marketing that this was a product for black people.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    VR is only used by furries and weebs to play VR chat and get drunk on Friday and Saturday

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and you can't even do that on an Apple headset afaik

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >locked into the crapple walled garden
    >closed source
    >effectively a developer toy that can't be used for development
    >meme prop design that fails to learn from its predecessors
    It's a meme marketing prop.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only ones interested in overpriced vr visors aren't into apple wiener cage ecosystem nor garbage that can't even play fricking youtube

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    in-app ads strapped to your face wasnt really a great marketing idea

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No real use case, not even for enthusiasts.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's not fashionable. Everything Apple has put out until now has been fashionable to use in public. You need celebrity endorsements and for that you need something to be fashionable. This thing is just too bulky to be fashionable.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    - doesn't have 8 hours battery life
    - doesn't have varifocal lenses
    - $3500 for at best a movie watching device

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you go sar
    >woop woop

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there's a man who's never gotten laid

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >expensive
    >heavy
    >hurts eyes, neck, face, gives headaches, strains eyes
    >has no problem to solve
    >you look like a fricking clown
    >incredibly isolating and antisocial
    >they show someone using it on a long-haul flight in the poor people section which wouldn't work because your neighbours have bladders the size of a thimble and you're being constantly asked if you want a beverage and its a whole fricking ordeal to get it off your fricking face
    >no apps, no software, no real-world use

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They didn't listen to IQfy

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    applegays are the least likely to wear this because it's still nerd sized

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's a veblen good / demonstrator. You're not supposed to buy it. Although apple did overestimate how many would be sold

    The 2025 vision needs to be a lot cheaper, lighter, and have the dumb shit sorted out.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It didn't flop. It's a developer kit available for sale.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is the dumbest fricking take.
      Apple didn't market it as a dev kit. It's being sold straight up as a regular customer item. If it was a dev kit, it'd be sold for 10x the price an legitimately to companies only, with clear indication of another mass market device on the way.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Some say it’s heavy. Personally, I didn’t like the graphics on it. The graphics were sharp, but not immersive enough.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's very funny that someone meta recently hinted that they might have a display solution for high-FOV pass-through AR and tim cook blew up a decade+ long secret project because he couldn't wait another 2 years

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No porn.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    VR will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER become popular as long as it's it's connected to some coropo's global data mining server. People want to goon in private. Full stop.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      all your gooning is already siphoned to the us government through your ISP.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >All downloaded through VPN directly to external hd then played back on a separate air gapped off line media device. With zero google software installed on any of it

        Maybe. But they are going to have to work for it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          let me guess... Polymeric Falcighol Derivation required?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Get with the times. That's already been cracked.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Enormous $3500 toy that doesnt have the battery capacity to watch a whole movie.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does it at least come with an internal battery that allows you to switch to a fresh one? Or reconnect the cable if it gets torn out?
      Or do you need to restart?

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because what do you do with it?

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No games and VRChat is just now known as a sex app.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It didn't, it performed exactly as well as you'd expect a $3000 VR headset to perform with the current state of VR.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But not as Apple expected.
      Which is why it was a flop.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it sold as well as they expected. The marketing focuses more or less entirely on niche workplace uses and that's the sort of market that won't blink at spending $3500 per person on a weird head computer, MS went the same route with the hololens
    I look forward to being able to buy an Apple Vision Amateur in 2028 so I can work on a big virtual monitor in my garden

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I look forward to being able to buy an Apple Vision Amateur in 2028 so I can work on a big virtual monitor in my garden
      You can do this now on cheaper devices.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have tried, and no, you can't, text fidelity is not good enough. Unless you can live with doing all of your work on the equivalent of a 720P TV smeared with vaseline.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Try something other than your 1080p phone in a cardboard box.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            kguttag.com/2024/03/01/apple-vision-pros-optics-blurrier-lower-contrast-than-meta-quest-3/

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The only one of these showing an actual image looks better on the apple headset, the rest appears to be just font rendering differences that are also present on Mac OS

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Anal 8 point
            >Anal 11 point
            >Anal 12 point
            Apple does not suffer this problem

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hmm, so the Vision Pro is worse in that regard than cheaper alternatives.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >comparing the mipmapped texture of avp to a native texture of q3 because you are too moronic to write a proper program

            The only one of these showing an actual image looks better on the apple headset, the rest appears to be just font rendering differences that are also present on Mac OS

            It's a texture, you fricking moron. Rasterized. Do you know what that means?
            The difference comes from renderer written by a noob. Getting texture rendered natively is a bit tricky, but doable.
            That comparison is moot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >niche workplace uses and that's the sort of market that won't blink at spending $3500 per person on a weird head computer,

      show me any evidence at all this happens

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every scammer israeli vaporware tech startup.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Out of range for average consumer during recession. Slowly going to get better, and more affordable, but delivered at an inopportune time.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Three thousand US dollars.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They made an overpriced VR headset that couldn't play VR games.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    big, heavy, cumbersome, expensive, no apps

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody wants shit strapped to their heads duh

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because nobody can name one reason to buy it

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    VR is only good for games, and it plays no games.

    Most of Apples devices look cool and slick. This one are cringe sci-fi ski goggles.

    A 2 hour non hotswappable battery on a tether should have been a red flag that this product is the next newton and not ready for primetime.

    The Quest3 is the much better product. Even if you have the Apple Vision Pro it sitll has value just due to its library and if you can afford a vision pro can't you afford a quest3?

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine World of Warcraft in VR.
    It would boost VR industry.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    092 682 296

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    way too expensive. the headsets will get to where apple's headset is now eventually, so there's no reason to spend a gazillion bucks on a hyper advanced headset when the cheaper ones will eventually reach that point anyways at some point in the future. also, global recession, everyone's dirt poor and can only afford food and rent and gas and maybe a couple of brewskies a month. spending thousands for a headset with zero ecosystem attached to it is not really something anyone feels like doing right now. not even the corpo scum are doing it, clearly, since apple is shutting down the headset and don't plan on making any more of them in the future.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >there's no reason to spend a gazillion bucks on a hyper advanced headset when the cheaper ones will eventually reach that point anyways at some point in the future.

      >clearly, since apple is shutting down the headset and don't plan on making any more of them in the future.
      they can tank it, although I guess thatd depend on how b***hy the board of directors is.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They did it on purpose to tell the investors to frick off with this metaverse bullshit.
    It goes to show that latest iPad got way more media coverage and ads compared to the Vision headset.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nope. That's full cope.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one wants VR, AR is too new and has too few application, its insanely expensive, it's only for sale in one country, it has no apps, it has no battery life, it's massive, it's fragile, it's uncomfortable, and it doesn't solve literally any problems.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    99% of people simply do not walk to use VR Googles all the fricking time.

    They desperately want a new iPhone, but smartphones are extremely reliable devices that help people a lot and you can keep them in your pocket and use them for ton of things. A giant VR headset with cables and equipment is NOT that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And by "they" you mean "Tim". This product exists entirely because he's retiring soon and wanted something more exciting than the watch in his legacy. It is years away from being a worthwhile product

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    VR can be fun but I won't be buying a headset with a walled garden ecosystem and probably spyware.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    more like PLOP

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      basneed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i want to PLAP her

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