So you are telling me this shit downloads _every single dependency _ of a program, down to _a fricking copy of the C library_, and the flatpak maintain...

So you are telling me this shit downloads _every single dependency _ of a program, down to _a fricking copy of the C library_, and the flatpak maintainer has to make sure everything is up to date?

Sounds like a completely rational (and secure) engineering choice. Top kek.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your reddit formatting doesn't work here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >reddit invented markup
      Kys, Redhat Black person.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you missed the best part OP, the apps are running containerized as well!
      >muh local security

      >paragraphs is reddit spacing
      kys, you stupid moron Black person

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        _this is not a paragraph_

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes.

          that would be correct.

          neither are these.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            then why did you bring them up schizo?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >hallucinating someone say "reddit spacing"
            unironically go outside

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've literally never posted a single thing on Reddit and have no fricking clue what you're talking about.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't expect you to new IP-kun.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >every single dependency
    No, it uses deduplication. It's still trash though. Flatpaks only make sense when you are using something like Silverblue where almost all your graphical apps are installed using Flatpak + Distrobox. That is when the deduplication is going to be most effcient. But nobody will tell you this because Flatpak shills want to use Flatpaks no matter what. If you are using a traditional distro, it is simply far better to stick to native packages.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Use package repos at Debian.
      > Firefox is old as frick.
      > Some software isn't avaliable. (Ungoogled Chromium for example).
      > DEB packages are usually made thinking on Ubuntu and not at Debian.
      > Wine generating useless desktop entries, while on flatpak it doesn't.

      At Arch:
      > OBS from the repos being a pita.
      > Need to use multilib to install Steam, while flatpak just works.
      > I would not trust AUR to pick some softwares, and you shouldn't too.

      Flatpaks are useful, I would prefer a standard like .dmg and .appimages instead of it? For sure. But is the best way to distribute applications without suffer due a lot of brainlet maintainers breaking glibc or shipping old software.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Wine generating useless desktop entries, while on flatpak it doesn't
        You are using Wine as a flatpak? Or are you talking about Bottles?

        I do agree it can be useful for some graphical applications like Steam or general electron apps. At least they don't pull the gnome and kde runtimes which is fricking idiotic. If you install too many of such apps, you can even end up with multiple versions of gnome and kde runtimes.

        I guess it depends on what software you use. I just never had a problem native packages and I have used multiple distros like Arch and NixOS. Even maintained packages for Alpine.

        Flatpak is overhyped because it is just another thing adopted heavily by GNOME. The new Flathub "curation guidelines" are fricking moronic and very GNOME-app favored.
        >get a "le modern icon" with soulless flatshit
        >oh, wazzat? you are not an icon designer?
        >no problem, join our matrix server and beg our designers to make an icon for your app!
        >you don't want to? well okay but then your app doesn't get to appear on the front page 😉

        The metadata guidelines make some sense but they went full design nazi on everything else, it's insane. Flathub is just another GNOME playground and yes, while people can host their own Flatpak "remotes", everything is already centralized in Flathub at this point.

        Flatpak itself is maintained by GNOME homosexuals like Matthias Classen. This is the same guy who immediately closed the "GTK4 blurry fonts everywhere" issue saying "it's not a bug and it's not a regression either" because he didn't want to deal with the issue at all. If nothing else, I know I'm doing the right thing as long as I avoid projects that involve wienersuckers like him.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is there a real reason every single homosexual is pushing for these? at least the anons on IQfy that like them know they're flawed, but everywhere else (specially on "normie" linux channels) people act as if they are the definitive version of installing software.

        I'm running Devuan on my main machine and installed Librewolf instead, it's based on the latest Firefox version. I'm pretty sure you can install Ungoogled Chromium manually too but I didn't bother.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >everywhere else (specially on "normie" linux channels) people act as if they are the definitive version of installing software.
          that's just how gnome fanboys behave
          those people really don't have a brain of their own
          they just regurgitate whatever they hear out of gnome devs in blog posts and platforms like reddit
          finally you add braindead e-celebs like the linux experiment to the mix and you get a bunch of sheep

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gentoo doesn't have this problem. You can choose between bleeding edge and stable on a per-package basis. And all your programs can be tailored to your specific CPU. Let alone USE-flags are helpful as frick in reducing bloat

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >[Gentoo] helpful as frick in reducing bloat
          He says while his system is littered with source files and build artifacts.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Flatpaks only make sense when you are using something like Silverblue where almost all your graphical apps are installed using Flatpak + Distrobox

      I don't have to write lengthy SELinux rules thanks to Flatpak.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I use it on Debian to keep stuff like Bitwarden up-to-d00t

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're a moron and keeps shitting on shit you know jack about, congrats anon, bet your parents feel proud of ya.
    Maybe you should use your stupid room level temp IQ and learn about runtimes or just kys

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seethe harder Black person.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes, its just a showoff on how fricking autistic linux is
    they reinvented static linking but shittier because they can't make a single stable GUI API

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Look up dedup you troglodyte. Flatpaks are the best packaging format for desktop applications on Linux. Is it perfect? Of course not, but its better than everything else, and it beats using the distro maintainer's moronic opinionated and outdated package.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >just werks
    >easily updates
    >don't have to worry about installing and managing a ton of bloat with different packages and versions, juggling all that shit
    >just remove the flatpak if you don't want it anymore

    Flatpaks definitely have their place.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where's the problem?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You engineer types can keep your completely useless 'operating' systems

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >So you are telling me this shit downloads _every single dependency _ of a program, down to _a fricking copy of the C library_,

    This is what happens when nobody gives a shit about maintaining compatibility.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What compatibility are you talking about? Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch, etc are all different operating systems. If people don't expect a windows exe to run on macos, why should anyone expect an app compiled for fedora to run on Ubuntu? Just because they all use similar userspace software doesn't mean they're identical. And if they WERE identical, it would defeat the point of having different different distros. If you don't see why it's valuable to have different distro options, then you're clueless about the Linux ecosystem so your opinion is irrelevant.

      Flatpak is a solution for universal applications that run on all Linux based operating systems. It's not useful for command line utilities or system software, but it is a great solution for software vendors of desktop apps who can't/won't ship half a dozen different packages built and configured differently for all the system package managers out there.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >f people don't expect a windows exe to run on macos, why should anyone expect an app compiled for fedora to run on Ubuntu?

        I expect Windows 10 programs to continue running on Windows 11. I have seen many programs that run on Debian 11 and don't run on Debian 12.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That sounds like a Debian problem. Windows is pretty much the only OS that actually cares about backwards compat. Macos, android, and ios break backwards compatibility regularly. On Linux oses you at least have many options to get an old program running again, and now options like Flatpak which are basically guaranteed to work until the end of time.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    flatpak is complete horseshit for fedora midwits

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