Socrates

Is there any proof he really existed?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Collective disdain of his critics

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Noooo a social faux pas guess your fricking dead kid.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not really, never forget they kept record of executions

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    reminder the government is the problem

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Na killing its best citizens is a feature not a bug

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Socrates agreed.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Strange how Aristophanes could stand on stage and literally point out politicians and call them gayggots with blown out ass holes but Socrates gets killed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He was killed for political reasons. He was a commander in the peloponesian wars and was associated with a political faction that had been in disgrace since then that the ruling authorities wanted to dissuade from revolt. The whole “corrupting the youth” thing was a scapegoat for the real reason they wanted him dead which was that he was an outspoken agitator with a respectable military record and a following of young combat aged men which is quite literally THE WORST case scenario for a politician in Ancient Greece that wants to keep his hold on the state.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well yes, he fought in the Peloponnesian war, but after Athens' defeat he ostensibly sided with the oppressor, the so-called Thirty Tyrants who were installed by the victorious Sparta, and his philosophy seemed to support oligarchy. So with the restoration of democracy, there was a real case to be made against him for "corrupting the youth" with anti-Athenian and anti-democratic values. At the same time, they couldn't prosecute him as a member of the Tyrants' regime because his support was not so outspoken as that and there is even a famous anecdote brought up in his defence where he refused to tell some soldiers where they could find an enemy of the regime (but neither did he warn the wanted man).
        In the end, he fully surrendered to the mercy of the court and accepted their punishment willingly, in line with his beliefs on a man's duty to the state.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any proof you exist?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Where do you think socks came from?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't know, don't care. He was just another moron as admitted by himself ("I know nothing")

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Humility is an alien concept to the unwarranted egomaniac.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing is actually one of the hardest things to understand, its basically the reason infinity is so hard to understand since infinity is based on other things being limited by nothing, so if someone is able to have complete knowledge about nothing, its actually a pretty big step up from the knowledge the rest of humanity has secured.

  7. 1 month ago
    ANONYMOUS

    hemlock

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you count Plato's and Xenophon's texts as proof, then yes. Is that solid proof ? No.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's considerable evidence that Plato by an large made up him and he was a composite figure to put a name and face to a bunch of philospohical beliefs from that time period.
      Much like Homer was invented for The Iliad and the Odyssey

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >There's considerable evidence that Plato by an large made up
        No there isn't.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >There's considerable evidence that Plato by an large made up
        No there isn't.

        I think what Anon is thinking of here is that Plato almost certainly put his own beliefs in the mouth of Socrates in his later writings.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There are no proofs the past existed as told. It should not matter, we can take the world as it is today.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what I don't get is how he became so infamous. he was just a guy who had conversations with people. how did everyone in athens know him?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      greek people are famouse because the british elite in the 19th century got obsessed with them to the point they did nothing in universities but read greek and create associations called after greek letters

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's so fricking whack to me how much of Western philosophy derives from a handful of dudes who all knew each other

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They are just the ones who decided to finally write it all down.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >rom a handful of dudes
      All these texts were composed in renaissance Italy by a dude trying to sell books

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >what is medieval philosophy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How's that a bad thing? Most movements are started by a bunch of dudes who know each other.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Plato, Xenophon, Aristophanes. Three people who wrote about him. That’s pretty good for the ancient world. I don’t doubt he was real. Kierkegaard thought that he was most like Aristophanes version in The Concept of Irony.

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