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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Normies.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Americans bought nintendies not Amigas.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > a computer built by americans
      > used throughout various industries until the late 1990s in america
      > pc and macs took 20 years to catch up
      down syndrome

      - Commodore's management was fricked up
      - PCs became cheap af and killed most home computers (Apple would've died too if MS didn't bail them out)
      - Motorola killed off the m68ks the Amiga was based on and tried to push new completely incompatible RISC architectures instead (while a modern intel CPU is still compatible to an 8088 from 1979)

      >- Motorola killed off the m68ks the Amiga was based on
      never happened. 68000 variants are still produced in current year. even a google search would show you that you're a compulsive lying Black person.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >> pc and macs took 20 years to catch up
        You've been living under a rock for those 20 years.
        variants are still produced in current year
        Yeah fricking 68080. Shit was slower than late model 486 let alone Pentium. Motorola stopped developing 68K, do you really want to argue moronic semantics?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >never happened. 68000 variants are still produced in current year. even a google search would show you that you're a compulsive lying Black person.
          The 68060 was the last upgrade Motorola ever did.
          Which was expensive, soon completely out by newer Pentium models, and Motorola was more interested in pushing their new PowerPCs.

          After that you only have embedded CPUs like the ColdFire.
          People actually made accelerator cards using it for old Amigas but it was completely outclassed by contemporary x86 CPUs.

          wasn't that 68060 more like a weak pentium?

          incidentally I bought an a1200 1,5 years ago with a 030 accelerator. it's pretty damn slow. never had a1200 though my first computer was an amiga, though it was already dead by then

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          also 68080 is something not by motorola, but something enthusiasts as come up with, no?

          with their own made up mmx and simd shit? right? So it's not actually "real"

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >never happened. 68000 variants are still produced in current year. even a google search would show you that you're a compulsive lying Black person.
        The 68060 was the last upgrade Motorola ever did.
        Which was expensive, soon completely out by newer Pentium models, and Motorola was more interested in pushing their new PowerPCs.

        After that you only have embedded CPUs like the ColdFire.
        People actually made accelerator cards using it for old Amigas but it was completely outclassed by contemporary x86 CPUs.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    - Commodore's management was fricked up
    - PCs became cheap af and killed most home computers (Apple would've died too if MS didn't bail them out)
    - Motorola killed off the m68ks the Amiga was based on and tried to push new completely incompatible RISC architectures instead (while a modern intel CPU is still compatible to an 8088 from 1979)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a modern intel CPU is still compatible to an 8088 from 1979
      Only partially, and nobody really uses real mode any more (because it was shit).

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    please do the needful and buy erotic mechanical keyboard with a creamy thock

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I refuse to buy a keyboard where the arrow keys are out of alignment like that though

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not blank
      ruined

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Strawberry shortcake colored keyboard for all of the trannies.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      at this point I might just buy a rubber dome to spite all of the 400 billion different switch types and shit like having to lube it
      it's some gay vape pen beard oil shit

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    don't forget to lube your stabs

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >lube
      for your dildo?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        does this look like a dildo to you?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          left over lube is for your dildo right?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes I lubricate my male masturbators with keyboard lubricant

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >not using natural veganal lubrication to lubricante your keyboard
            ngtmi

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's a card on chub for that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >lube
      for your dildo?

      does this look like a dildo to you?

      left over lube is for your dildo right?

      Yes I lubricate my male masturbators with keyboard lubricant

      There's a card on chub for that.

      my keytroon v1 came with shitty clicking stabs what can i do to fix this without spending more than $20 and will replacing keychron red switches with some gateron or akko ones make the keyboard less mushy

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I asked her for you:
        For a budget fix, you could apply some silicone grease like Krytox 105 oil or 205g0 on the stems of the stabilizers. As for the mushiness, switching to Gateron or Akko switches should improve the overall feeling.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Krytox 105 oil or 205g0
          where can i get them without paying $30 shipping in europe

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            She suggests aliexpress.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            what shops sell the legit ones

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't seem like the AI knows that. Not surprising.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    LUV ME MEEGA
    SIMPLE AS

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    inb4 /misc/tards shitting on Commodore for bringing computing to millions of Americans just because the company was run by israelites.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't know that

      https://i.imgur.com/uCbJuzj.jpg

      SOVL

      What happened ?

      >What happened ?
      Jews.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I didn't know that
        Yep, millions of people got exposed to programming thanks to Jack Tramiel. But I'm sure that these /misc/ subhumans will somehow spin this into a bad thing too.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think PC was always more prevalent in the US along with bbs systems.
          Amiga/ST was UK and the rest of Europe thing. I don't know if look fondly at my own Amiga days, I guess so. The music capabilities were hreat.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah. Though if we're on the topic of other systems, I wish people spread their retro-computing interests more so that they also include higher-class systems that were too expensive for most people. There's some amazing computing history there. This article points some of it out.
            https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/25/the_war_of_the_workstations/

            And yet they made a number of catastrophic management errors that destroyed the company. Hmmm... really makes you think.

            Yeah. Fricked up in the end but still had a good run making computers as affordable as possible. I don't seethe about the frickups because they would have most likely gotten killed by Microsoft+Intel anyway. The VLSI revolution was such a powerful centralizing force that nothing could resist. First it killed all the weird fancy architectures like the Lisp Machines in favor of Unix workstations, then the Unix workstations died too in favor of doing everything under the Sun on x86.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          well it kinda makes sense since commodore didnt really create the amiga they just bought it as practically a finished product to sell and most argue didnt develop it because they didnt really understand what they had past a product they could hock and immediately only obsessed with how they could make and sell it cheaper or later in its life repackage it with as few hardware changes as humanly possible, it is pretty israeli in retrospect.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I was thinking more about the C64. But yeah, exactly as predicted
            >/misc/ subhumans will somehow spin this into a bad thing too

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            lol im not though, but if the shoe fits.. I also wanted a c64 more than anything else in the world as a kid

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No? Sorry then.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >they just bought it as practically a finished product to sell
            completely false. they bought the chipsets and then commodore agreed to build a machine using the chipsets, which were originally laid out dozens of breadboards. these chips were originally going to be produced for atari but commodore bought the amiga group and gave atari their money back. they didn't have anything "finished".

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And yet they made a number of catastrophic management errors that destroyed the company. Hmmm... really makes you think.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nothing, you can still buy one from unicomp

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    E
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  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"ahhhhhh so much SOVL in my 35 year old, yellowing, plastic keyboard!"

    Stop being a weiner and buy Redragon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >keyboard
      dumb zoomer

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Commodore made some dumb business decisions, eg declining a contract to produce entry level Unix workstations, being too stingy on hardware development when competitor platforms were catching up.

    Ultimately this meant you could buy a more capable PC with a bigger software library for less money than a top end amiga after around 1992. At the same time games consoles surpassed low end amigas. A1200 clung on for a couple of years but it was doomed.

    There were a few years when the amiga was better than the alternatives. If you were there you are now in your 40s and that feeling you get thinking about how comfy it was is the first sign of your decline. But you got to play lemmings when it first came out which is based

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >that feeling you get thinking about how comfy it was is the first sign of your decline.
      🙁

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every decision Commodore made was dumb. Amiga was pretty much doomed ever since they bought it, the AmigaOS developers started putting Easter eggs saying this in version 1.2, the next year the platform was released.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literally Asia. The PC industry was sent to Asia, behold the result.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    any of you old enough to been programming on amiger btw?

    I wish I was 10 years older so I had been able to experience all of this shit, looked at it after I bought a 1200. in the demoscene they are still to this day making awesome shit for it, ie here.

    Damn impressive, but by going by the filesize lots of fakery here and no way you could have these sizes of shit back then

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I did dumb shit in AMOS BASIC as a kid.
      Never any fancy scene stuff.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I started looking at it after I got the a1200, you know the whole memory and io layout and shit. made some couple of application but mostly just read

        but you know.. stuff got in the way I had to do, so I sort of left it there for a year now. like for instance to just play a sample. it's like one instruction and it loops it, you just put the sample in chip mem and have to this frequency calculation I can't remember how works then boom it goes

        sigh I wish older, and amos that was like basic with hardware support or something right? I've just seen it on youtube in recent years

        basic for making games on amiga basically?

        programming on this shit is very different from a pc, as you have to interact with these coprocessors constantly

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah. I did.

      I was a child and it was moron tier amiga basic but I was there. Might even have been in the 80s

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i'm a boomer and have been coding demoscene demos in assembly for the amiga since 1992. still do and still love it.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BUILT FOR THE GERMAN GAME DEVELOPERS

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      and esp. the british, europe in general I guess.
      the uk was absolutely massive at it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      and esp. the british, europe in general I guess.
      the uk was absolutely massive at it

      This is probably why European studios aren't as successful as regions using PC, even China and South Korea are ahead of them now. There's something in the 'miger that dulls the mind, kind of like lead.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        what is ie dice? what is larian studios.. what is...

        the uk was massive, I'm not in this industry, so I don't follow so much either. but us bigger economy everything ends up there, especially from here

        all tech from my flag, gets bought up by us companies and moved there

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >dice
          Even at the best of times, around Battlefield 3, they were still playing second fiddle to COD. Otherwise they are clowned on by almost every major player in their field.
          >larian studios
          You don't even know they exist until last year

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            when I was 17 I was at that party there in late 90ies and those guy tried to headhunt me, but my parents said no I think was them

            I started however the moment I got 18 almost headhunted at another norwegian company

            heh, they had no say I had to take rest of highschool later, we have one more year here at highschool and one less at uni

            my god my teacher came at the trainstation
            >no anon don't go come back to school

            I took it later though.. is how it was...

            like for instance me and my mate changed schools because my mate's mother and aunt was at my school, he couldn't take it anymore

            anyw3ays is most funny. so we go to this other schoold it's about vector maths.. so we don't care goign on about some cd(yes this is in the 1800ds) some of us bought and our teacher went
            >YEAH you just there YOU WILL FLUNK YOU DON'T LISTEN DO DRUGS!!!!!

            first test, who got every thing reight?
            it was about euler and vectors, we alredy knew this shit so we were bored

            these days everyone just use the unreal engine back in muh days whe...

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    btw check this out so the party is the largest demoscene party in denmark, this is from ... 1991.. all those guys are prolly dead now lol

    but anyways, look there is not one single PC there, the times you think you see a PC it's just a bigbox amiga

    I was at this competition, but that's at the end of the 90ies

    one of the guys who made that demo up there btw calls him self grandpa, prolly because he is

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Happier times, brothers. Happier times gone and never forgotten.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Unless you can time machine to 2006 frick off

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    as I understand in the us it was mostly about big-box amigas for professional use. they had apple pc and consoles mostly for games and homecrap

    so the amiger didn't get as epic big as it got in europe, this is what my understanding is at least just going by these retro youtubers and stuff

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    also when a vertical line of distortion appears on your screen on old amiga, that would just be a condensator right guys?

    it has happened to mine, shit is 30 yo anyways... capacitor I mean.. confusing we use different terms and in english. I hope it just need a recap

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dunno. had an Atari ST

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that shit never got big here, when I was a kid there was 1 kid in my entire school that had one... so he was there all alone

      .. heh also random from those vids there, those guys are from skåne. I never knew, never knew any of those amiga guys as they were older and stuff

      ?t=671

      in general that amiga generation are the absolute sickest programmers you have, they are all insanely good

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >SOVL
    I will rape your syphilitic prostitute mother and impale her decayed corpse on a cross across the street from your pigsty of a house.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So, are there any modern day keyboards that have this style?

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The IBM PC compatible Mikro Mikko running windows 3.1 on intel 386. Oh hell, it ran DOOM. And yes, I played it back in the 90s when it still was soulful and not a nostalgia nerd joke.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      hahahaha nokia even had PCs? frick I didn't know this

      norway also had this tanberg or something, is all before my time. we had some early boomers in this shit this smalltalk in example was made here that was like a boomer language from the 60ies

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Nokia Data was bought by ICL which in turn went to Fujitsu at some point. Even late 90's you could buy Made in Finland Fujitsu/ICL/Nokia MikroMikko ErgoPro's/Indiana's, some of which had bizarre amount of bodge wires on the motherboard, SERR# signal (or was it PERR#, nevertheless, some sound cards like SB Live! did not work) on PCI was unimplemented (and maybe NMI on ISA too) and had a quite weird modular BIOS.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >norway also had this tanberg or something
        Tandberg made terminals with strange flat keyboards. I don't think they made their own computers, but around the mid 1990s I think they relabeled PCs and sold these with their signature keyboards.

        ND made computers, mostly mainframes, not sure if they made desktop computers.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The amiga was always a turd
    just like all the other shit "computers" brit gays grew up with
    nobody had this trash in the US

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek

      but frick me britain just watching your retro shit, you had netweorks in your schools in the 80ies with se .... worst part soviet copied these computers even

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My first computer. I was 10yo when I got it. All I did was play video games on it, I had that joystick with two buttons. Tell me what I missed out on.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What happened ?
    Really bad management happened. Dave Haynie writes at length about this sorry saga.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it was slow as shit. when PC clones started using better Intel chips (486 or whatever), they just couldn't respond with any of the 68xxx arch family that they based everything on. they basically doomed themselves by using 68k, as the arch had no future when motorola gave up on it

    sure the application specific hardware was fun but eventually even that got stomped on by generic Intel CPUs that could do everything on a single chip. the 1990s were ruthless to even the slightest hardware stagnation

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    68080 was cooked by Apollo Computers.
    It's about Pentium 2 fast.
    But 68k cpus weren't killed, they were and are continuing to be used in embedded solutions.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which is completely irrelevant when you're talking about desktop systems like the Amiga.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Which is completely irrelevant when you're talking about desktop systems like the Amiga.
        Are you sure about that?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tfw anons post my Amiga in defense of some dumbshit replying to me

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Does it work well? I still have my own a1200 and have been curious about upgrades. All my disks are probably corrupt by now.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It works pretty decently. I'd recommend a 68040/60 if you are just looking to run a old Amiga, but if you want to do it in the modern era and deal with bugs on the 68080 it's really great and fast.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Neat, maybe I should see if it even runs as is first. I still have my 500 as well. I dunno if I have a monitor I can hook to it though. I haven't seen the mouse in ages either.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.
          Accelerators long long after Amiga's death are completely irrelevant.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't that on a FPGA? A hard solution on ASIC would be significantly faster.
      >continuing to be used in embedded solutions.
      Yes, especially military systems.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >got an amiga 2000 in the 2000s at a thrift store as a kid
    >didn't have the startup disk for it, never got it working
    >when i moved my dad put it in a shed without telling me
    >the shed got destroyed in a hurricane, it sat there exposed to the elements for 6 years and only recently did they get the shit out from it
    >has now been sitting under a tarp outside with the other stuff
    Is there literally any reason to even bother? maybe it's just the shell thats rusted especially since it was mostly under other stuff

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >amiga was soul
    ?

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    good flat keyboard came, and it's a good thing

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why cant we have a normal full-sized keyboard? this is the only one available in my region. wtf is this?

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what exactly is the question?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The question is

      https://i.imgur.com/uCbJuzj.jpg

      SOVL

      What happened ?

      >What happened ?

      The answer is also provided:

      >What happened ?
      Really bad management happened. Dave Haynie writes at length about this sorry saga.

      >Really bad management happened.

      See? Easy when you take a minute to read the thread rather than going straight for Reply. Are you really 18?

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >5 different keyboard threads
    what's going on?

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