Spotify, an European company, criticizes the "unfair" new Apple policy for EU countries.

Spotify, an European company, criticizes the "unfair" new Apple policy for EU countries.

https://newsroom.spotify.com/2024-01-26/apples-proposed-changes-reject-the-goals-of-the-dma/

This will not end well for Apple...

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    iTODDLERS BTFO

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      basted

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      brazil

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bosnia

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the company that "steals" from artists is complaining about apple "stealing" from them
    kek

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if i had to pay for every single album I wanted to listen to i wouldve 100% instead pirated every single one of them. Instead I use spotify so that I can have all my songs on my phone and not take up 200GB on it. Those artists are getting more money from me thanks to spotify

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >an European
    ESL moment

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      theres nothing wrong with that mohammed

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are clearly ESL. "Europe" begins with an E, which is a vowel, however the a/an distinction is keyed off the starting sound, not the starting letter. Europe begins with a "y" sound, which in this context is not considered a vowel sound. Accordingly, the correct phrase is "A European company"

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah. It's similar to "university."

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >le ESL
          The usage of this buzzword has increased throughout past couple of years because /misc/ tourists and because of the fact nu users are afraid to use any other slurs.
          This also applies with the fact ESL term takes zero effort to pull off and will easily derail threads.
          Use filters and at least filter the common bot spam words.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      theres nothing wrong with that mohammed

      voiceroo of how you pronounce this, NOW

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still remember when my late mother begged me to set up a custom ringtone on her Iphone 4 because when I looked up how much work it was compared to Android I said I cba to do it. She eventually paid me, lol. Father also said he'll never allow her to buy another Iphone after that, considering how much of a piece of shit it was for the price.
    I miss her so much. For whatever reason I can mostly remember the stuff she annoyed me with instead of all the great things about her. Probably some kind of coping mechanism.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Probably some kind of coping mechanism.
      Yeah, maybe you're annoyed that she gone, and that makes you think of annoying things. Hopefully that will pass and you can focus on the good things.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They wanted lower fees, but they fought for an
    "open market" on a closed platform to spite apple instead and still didn't get what they wanted. They can eat shit and die.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The EU will go to court again and make them bleed more. And it will be glorious.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They don't want lower fees. They want to pay nothing like Amazon and Uber.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why don't they pass on the cost of iTax on iToddlers and make each song cositlier on iPhones
      Bet the sheeple would pay without question.
      How come this didn't occur to anyone at spootify

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they would blame spotify, not apple, and probably switch to apple music

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's an easy anti trust

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They have been doing this for years and consider it unacceptable. YouTube and Spotify have been charging $12.99 on iOS and $9.99 on Android/Web for years and years.

        >They can eat shit and die.
        What would make you have this reaction? Literally how does Apple closing everything down and asking for ludicrous fees benefit you?

        Spotify got momma EU to go and frick with someone's platform because they didn't like the rules, and still didn't get what they wanted. Apple isn't innocent at all, but again, and more specifically, Spotify can eat shit and die.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They can eat shit and die.
      What would make you have this reaction? Literally how does Apple closing everything down and asking for ludicrous fees benefit you?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Europeans have a hard on for hurting American corporations. It’s really that simple.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    qrd please I don't understand what's going on here

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    welcome to EUSSR where other company can b***h and moan they dont get to use other company's stuff for free and EU forces them to share toys or else

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This rambling doesn't make any sense, bootlicker.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just another pathetic temper tantrum from an utterly cucked braindead commie continent with no tech industry of its own to speak of

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For capitalism to work you need to prevent monopoly and anti-competitive practices. America is so corrupt these days they've completely stopped doing their jobs in that regard

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a free market doesnt cause monopolies. governments do.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Huh?
        Governments enforce monopolies they don't create them. Look up the fricking history of anti-trust laws; and generally consumer laws in general. Companies colluded like mafia, added wood to jam, and basically all this shit the 'free market' said they shouldn't BEFORE governments stepped in and went NAH SON

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, of course. The new rules mean that Spotify will have to pay tens of millions to Apple every year just to remain on the App Store.

      >company releases product/service
      >costumers (which can be people or other companies) decide if they want to buy it or not
      >thus supply and demand ensues: if a company releases a poor product/service, it fails
      >for some reason bootlickers think supply/demand just means that once a company releases something everyone should buy it no questions asked
      >the right of the company to release something goes over the right of costumers to decide
      Frick off.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The governments are dumb and slow. Apple has better lawyers than the EUrotards have lawmakers.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > if we stay in the App Store and want to offer our own in-app payment, we will pay a 17% commission and a 0.50 cent Euro Core Technology Fee per install and year. This equates for us to being the same or worse as under the old rules.

    So they admit that the old rules were no the problem, they just want to spend less money? Why all this legal bullshit complaining about Apple's rules being unfair if all they really want is to be in a better financial position and they actually don't care about the rules at all?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes it's about money
      No that doesnt make it not a problem

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why all this legal bullshit complaining about Apple's rules being unfair if all they really want is to be in a better financial position and they actually don't care about the rules at all?
      It's unfair because it's only Apple that locks down their devices so strictly.
      Companies like Microsoft have been beaten repeatedly for things less egregious than what Apple is currently doing. Microsoft was sued for mearly including a browser, meanwhile Apple forces webkit.

      There has been precedent that companies have limited authority on how much they can control 3rd party software if their own platform has the capabilities for doing so.

      Is this about money? Yes it always is, but this has been a long time coming for Apple. They have only gotten away with it so long as iDevices just weren't seen as a general computing device. Times are changing and people are using iPhones/iPads as general computing devices.
      If an idevice provides the same functions to the average person as a PC did from 25 years ago then it is logical and reasonable that the rules and expectations found on PCs should also apply to these apple devices

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's kind of ironic for spotify to complain about the cut of profits a platform takes

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is pretty rich coming from spotify of all companies

      Welcome to capitalism

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is pretty rich coming from spotify of all companies

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are they still signing apple contracts if their cut is apparently so extreme?
    >Youtube, Spotify, Microsoft Teams/Office, Facebook/Whatsapp/Instagram, Epic/Tencent/etc all announce End of Life support on iPhone citing unprofitability re: iOS fees
    >iPhone at serious risk of becoming the new Windows Phone with users forced to use Trillian, Vimeo, Kingsoft Office, etc.
    >Apple panics and opens the door
    >get on the floor
    >everybody walk the dinosaur

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i don't care about any of them, i wish they all go bankrupt and close

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmao no, apple will just push their alternatives and people will switch
      >Apple music
      >I message groups
      >Apple games
      >Apple docs
      and whatever they don't have they can just buy the company that does have it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How will apple integrate Microsoft account SSO through Azure without cooperation from Microsoft *thonking*

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you complain about the monopoly taking advantage of you, and yet you still do business with them, how peculiar
      Are you a fricking moron?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Apple's in a poor position to be sharking Adobe Sign, Teams/Slack, Paypal and all these major services.

        Imagine if cable networks had to uniquely pay Samsung royalties to serve TV to their TVs. Rather than ABC/NBC/Fox whinging but paying up anyway, release a joint "not compatible with Samsung" statement and the brand is dead to LG overnight.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The most valuable company in the world? The gatekeeper to the one of only two systems available for a device basically everyone needs? They're in a "poor position to be shaking down"?
          >Imagine if cable networks had to uniquely pay Samsung
          Imagine if there was only one other choice for TVs, and they were shaking you down too

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Youtube, Spotify, Microsoft Teams/Office, Facebook/Whatsapp/Instagram, Epic/Tencent/etc all announce End of Life support on iPhone citing unprofitability re: iOS fees
      I bet iToddlers will use the safari browser or some shit to continue using their shitty Spotify or YT Music services lel

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Based, their platform their choices.
    Don't want to pay fees? Build your own smartphone OS and ecosystem

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My sideloaded iPhone will play YouTube videos and block ads. Maybe those fellers can make a sideload version of Spotify that does the same.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      julioverne did one.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It will end fine Spotify is a lobbyist organization

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do people defending apple prefer microsoft to mandate all apps on windows to be usable through their store with mandatory fees?

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be the explicit target of European regulators
    >adhere to the regulations by charging large fees to European corps
    Actually quite based, why did anyone expect otherwise?

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they're just prolonging the inevitable. The EU will make them bend over eventually.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like Apple is going to make all EU tech companies bend over as well.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        in the short term but the EU is too big of a market for Apple to back out of and they'll just clamp down harder on them after this.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Apple isn’t backing out of the market, they are simply passing the cost of regulatory burden onto their customers.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and eventually they'll have to allow sideloading and then won't be able to charge the fees anymore.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What makes you say that? Its clear that Apple won’t simply comply to your wishes.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine paying to listen to mp3s

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not just Spotify, a lot of major players are against the 30% revenue tax + giant FUD warning page from apple + requiring you to use Apple API to use third party browser links from app All this is done to capture the 30% revenue tax Apple charges for app devs.

    Then on top of this, Apple now charges the dev 50 cents per download.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >corporation passing regulatory costs onto their customers
      Oh wow, who could have seen this coming?!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Poison pill game dont play nicely in court against the government. If they go against the spirit of the law, its court time

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That’s not a poison pill, anon. It’s a normal reaction to a government regulation EXPLICITLY targeting your corp.

          Why exactly did EUphiles think Apple was going to play nice?

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >an

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who

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