SSD price: did we get bamboozled

some of you might have bought an SSD in the year 2014

it was 250 euros and its capacity was 120 gigabytes, but they never wear out and you are still using the year 2014 drive despite its having dozen of terabytes written over it

just 2 years later, you were able to buy 250 gigabytes for same price, 250 euros

and in a couple of years, you were able to buy 1TB drive for LESS THAN HUNDRED MONIES

early 1TB cheap drives are already dead in 2024

but you can buy new ones even cheaper now

but here is the question: did SSD tech take a turn for the worse since the year 2014? eventhough we have all the time faster memory chips in SSD, do the actual tech get worse and worse meaning less writes before a drive dies?

>I am not claiming year 2014 drive is as fast as modern drives I am claiming it can have more bytes written in it than modern drive

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  1. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a 1TB SSD for 42 euros last year, I just checked and now same disk is 68 euros, fricking hell, I won.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      yeah but 1TB had the price of 250 euros just 5 years ago

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        my old HDD still worked so I had no reason to buy a SSD

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I bought my 1TB for about 150EUR about 5 years ago. Honestly still 0 regrets, that thing is great

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      yeah but 1TB had the price of 250 euros just 5 years ago

      google SLC, MLC and QLC
      You're welcome.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        mlc and qlc matter exponentially less the larger a drive becomes

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Still waiting for affordable 8TB SSDs
          Even at twice the $/GB as an equivalent sized HDD, I'd trust a single SSD over RAID1 HDDs

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Same. I want to build an all m.2 SSD NAS for storing large video files on a 10GbE network. I want to be able to saturate the connection between it and my editing PC

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I got mine for $22 from Aliexpress, bought at the absolute dip

  2. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Back in 2014 you had higher write endurance chips. There are two reasons for this:

    1. Manufacturing process nodes were bigger. That is to say, there is literally more material on the gates to survive write cycles. Every time a
    2. Single level vs higher level cells. A multi level cell gets more writes done to it because multiple bits of data are stored in a single cell, which means each cell is modified more times vs single level cells during writes.

    Having said that you should not be able to kill drives within a few years unless you are constantly overwriting them. Even QLC drives should last longer than conventional HDDs in real world conditions.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Every time a
      Brain fart. Every time a cell gets written to, the transistors of that cell literally have material physically wearing out. This also very slightly increases the speed at which the cell can be written to.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      You are mostly correct. SSD manufacturing is about the silicon lottery as much as it is about CPUs and overclocking. Some batches are made good, other batches are made bad. In early SSD manufacturing days, only the good batches were sold to consumers, the rest being tossed or reworked. But now those lower quality batches are the ones being sold to consumers, that's partially why the price is able to be lowered. You can still get the higher quality ones, Samsung for instance thave the different "classes" like QVO, EVO and whatever else naming nonsense they've made up. But you'll find those higher quality classes still being the same price as they were in 2014, hundreds of dollars for 250 GB.

      In addition, advances in the manufacturing process have allowed companies to "make more for less". ie. get more data out of the same physical components. This Anon explains it well:

      I'm currently testing the endurance of a 4TB el cheapo drive on a NAS, which I'm constantly making backups of. It's been a few months and it's still going strong, but I know it can bust any time from now.

  3. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Idk, I've got two 1tb cheapo drives for less than 100 bucks 2 years ago and they still work perfectly fine despite me being very careless with them and rewriting the entire drive a few times.

    Only had a 2TB Patriot drive failing because they used some chink controller.

  4. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >250 euros and its capacity was 120 gigabytes
    >2014

    what? i paid $150 for evo 840 120gib, year later it was 250gb evo 850 for $150

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      then it wasnt 2014 but actually 2012 or 2013

  5. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    what are the numbers like on nvme? since I find sata ssd to be pointless and worthless. currently I have a 1tb nvme from gigabyte that shows 2.25PB written, 1.93PB read and zero issues (it was rated 1800tbw).

    i suspect the current market for sata ssds is at least partially driven by data centers switching to 2.5" drives to save on electric and space cost. if most sata ssds were going to consumers but are now going to data centers, the requirements change. for one, data centers typically never run anything to failure. a manufacturer might care about increasing TBW for consumers, but outside of extremes, businesses will usually just read the TBW rating, use the drive until 50-80% then replace it.

  6. 6 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      how to find out "total bytes written"

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      new update

      how to find out "total bytes written"

      wtf are you talking about? this is a hdd

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >this is HDD

        ok I guess it doesnt matter then

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          new update
          [...]
          wtf are you talking about? this is a hdd

          how many spinups is usually the limit where things start to break down

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            THE FRICKING HOURS
            HOURS ON TIME
            HOLY SHIT
            >what about data written
            >durr spinup time (which doesnt even change between the two years apart images hardly
            technology illiterates askign tech specific questions..

            i just wished i hadnt posted it noone but some dumb fricks who dont know what a hdd said anything.

            frick it me and my hdd will be the record books you and all you idiots can have your shit that is breaks down by they wanted it that way it was made that way.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >125k poh
        I kneel. It doesn't have Load/Unload count like Seagates does it? I have a pair with 50k and 60k, everything's fine except that value that is supposedly capped at 500k or something, mine have well over that

  7. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's not just SSD, all flash memory is absolute garbage now. I have several 8 GB usb sticks I got easily 10 years ago, if not more, I've rewritten them more times than I can remember, they still work perfectly fine, none of them stopped working yet. Last year two 256 GB usb sticks died on me before they were even full, the second one I got directly from the manufacturer, so I can't blame it on falsifications or any other lame excuse.
    For the longest time, computer parts became cheaper because they were cheaper to manufacture, but now things are cheaper simply because they're worse.

  8. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I paid more for less, it's dead now but I have no regrets. It was like upgrading from a Tesla toycar to a V8.

  9. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I couldn't give a frick either way, Because I Tyrone all my storage drives. HDDs, nVMEs and SSDs. I'm not joking either. I scam Amazon ALL THE TIME! just gotta know the tricks

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