Technological Regression

Post examples of technological regression you've noticed in the world.

Here's mine, old printers vs new ones. The old one is compact, stylish, full color, quiet and it just works. The new one is black and white because low end color laser printers start at $400, it's massive, looks older than the old printer and windows wouldn't even recognize it without driver files, it also sounds like a paper shredder when printing.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is what's inside the samsung, waste toner cartridge on the side that you can easily empty out with no DRM chip that locks out your printer and a full stack of efficiently packed toner cartridges. I would take a picture of the brother but it's mostly empty inside.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And then behind the toner cartridges is an absolute UNIT of a drum designed to last the life of the printer. In comparison you can see just how small the drum for the brother printer is. It's hidden inside a carrier along with the tiny toner cartridge.

      The samsung drum still works, just the rubber wiper for it along with the rubber wiper for the transfer belt is worn out so its printing ghost images from toner not wiped away properly. Unfortunately it's not worth the time or money to try and refurbish the samsung so it's going in the trash.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Old printers were products. New printers are services

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't services usually have lower up front costs?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not printers

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not printers

        yes printers

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          is the printer free

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the printer is $6.99/month with no upfront cost but it must be connected to the internet at all times and you can only print 20 pages a month

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The only way I could personally justify that is if they allow you to "bank" unused prints at the end of the month, as I infrequently print, but when I DO print I sometimes need to print 30-40 pages at a time, so it would be nice to be able to cheaply print ~100-150 pages per year, but not spread out 20 per month.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            shut up
            shut the frick up
            there is no justification for this
            you can print 20 pages at costco for $0.20
            do not give them an inch

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    removable storage and headphone jacks in phones

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >regression

    computer cases no longer have 5.25" modules or installation slots for them

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >computer cases no longer have 5.25" modules or installation slots for them

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Brother has a copier/scanner and a traditional paper tray. The paper tray on the Samsung is trash.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you're comparing two different classes of printer, this isn't a fair comparison. this is like comparing a 2002 hyundai accent to a 2019 toyota hilux. they do different things and serve different functions. of course your new one is bigger, it does multi-sides printing, scanning, has multiple larger paper trays, likely prints faster, and so on. it's a different category of product.

    printers have definately regressed, but this is not a good way to show it. modern printers are cheaper and smaller than ever, because they get you with ink and/or paper subscriptions.
    in some ways though, printer technology is actually very good. ink tank printers completely forgoe the whole ink catridge problem, color laser printers are cheaper and better than ever, multi-sided printinf is really affordable at home now, and so on.

    if you just get the brother whatever-its-called, it's like $99 and the best printer you'll ever own. that's a fairer comparison to your old one.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      True enough, the brother printer has a scanner and a bigger tray, look up how big a new color printer is though, it's even bigger than this multifunction machine.

      Imagine comparing an old, wired, slow printer sold at loss (Samsung expected to recoup the loss through ink sales) that requires a PC to function with an enterprise-quality networked fast printer full of features, that can also function as a fax without requiring any external device.

      Yes I was going to point out that the only things to have improved are purely the digital functions. Everything that involves the physical construction has degraded in quality.

      All printers are sold at a loss, these companies are going to crazy lengths to make you buy their marked up ink. HP bricks their printers.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >look up how big a new color printer is though, it's even bigger than this multifunction machine.
        not if you get a trayless one, like your old smasnug. printers have gotten significantly smaller over the years, you are just not looking at the right ones.

        your issue is you are just looking at PRINTER when in reality, a "printer" is about as useful a category as "car". they come in all shapes and sizes and with as many or as few features for as high or as little cost as you like. HP have a printer that is smaller than this costs $7 (a month) and RICOH have printers as big as a pickup truck that cost twice as much. both are "printers" but bot even remotely comperable.

        stop generalizing and start specifying. what type of printer? how many pages? how much ink/toner per? how fast? wifi? fax? scanning? multi-sided printing?
        what features do you want and what features do you not want? then you can make a fair comparison.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Your picture is an inkjet printer, those have always been small and have always been a scam. I'm talking about consumer desktop laser printers, they are fairly similar in specs for just the printer part, the samsung included. It's a little bit slower than modern ones, but not by much.

          That printer didn't cost 99$ when it was new.

          >That printer didn't cost 99$ when it was new

          My memory isn't great but pretty sure it was $99 during christmas of 2009 or 10.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you are just moronic, plain and simple
            next time title the thread appropriately: "what's the smallest laser printer i can buy right now" so we don't have to do this whole song and dance

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's a color printer?

            You went off on hypotheticals without even looking at what was posted.
            >picture of two desktop laser printers, one clearly labelled color laser
            >HURR DURR WHAT KIND OF PRINTERRR ARE U ASKING

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you compared two random laser printers that aren't even remotely in the same category as "proof" that printer techbology is worse now
            you shoukd have just asked for a small, modern laser printer.
            i was trying to show you how stupid it us to just make blanket statements like "printer technology has regressed" based on false comparisons, because there are plenty of printers that are smaller, cheaper and do more now than ever before. it just depends what you're looking for. i don't care that both printers in your pic were laser, one is a multi-function printer-scanner-fax machine that does black and white only, and the other is a trayless color printer. they aren't even remotely the same thing, why should I assume any relationship between then other than being printers? should I compare my toyota hilux to a suzuki swift? bith are ICE cars with four wheels, right? do you have any idea how stupid that is

            yes that printer is a color printer.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think you're an autistic moron that goes around looking for arguments and when you can't find one you go off on hypothetical tangents to induce one.

            printers is a dead market, it's only going to get worse

            >printers is a dead market, it's only going to get worse

            Everything is getting worse is the point of this thread. I got a 4070ti last summer and somehow it's worse at doing idle tasks like browsing the web than the 1070 it replaced. There is a noticeable slowdown whenever a video or webm comes up and this was never an issue before.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i think you said "printers have regressed" and then got proven wrong several times but alright

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm talking about consumer desktop laser printers
            consumer desktop laser printers don't exist anymore, the brother printer is the same small business printer it has been for the past 15 years except they now have fax rather than wireless. my like new refurb was $110 in 2021 but you can buy them new today for like $140-160 still, compare this to the several hundred $ that they were in 2008. you aren't being israelite'd by technical regressions, you're being israelite'd by the market deciding inkjets are for consumers and lasers are for businesses
            >It's a little bit slower than modern ones, but not by much.
            the samsung prints at half the speed of the bottom of the barrel brother printer, this makes a massive difference if you're printing thousands of pages

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine comparing an old, wired, slow printer sold at loss (Samsung expected to recoup the loss through ink sales) that requires a PC to function with an enterprise-quality networked fast printer full of features, that can also function as a fax without requiring any external device.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    wired headphones are more hifi than wireless

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're comparing two completely different type of products.
    One is a simple printer, the other is a combo one with multiple additional features.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Best printer I've ever had is a brother printer I found on the street. Laser with duplexer. Built like a tank. I use it over Ethernet and love it.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That printer didn't cost 99$ when it was new.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Once more for the record: Epson Ecotank for inkjets, Brother for laser. At least until further notice.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Epson Ecotank for inkjets

      These printers brick themselves when 'the ink absorber pad is full'.

      Epson probably has a replaceable tank instead of a sponge built into the printer, but no one lets you reset the cycle counter yourself, you have to take it to a 'service centre' or hack it with third party tools.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I bought this for £10 from a gumtree seller years ago. Came with a massive bag of ink cartridges that will last for ages. Everything still works to this day except for that time when epson tried to kill it off with a driver update. But putting the old driver back on got it working again.

    Behold, the Epson BX525.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I had that Samsung printer and it's garbage the fuser failed after a year and the toner was the price of a new printer

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    printers is a dead market, it's only going to get worse

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post examples of technological regression you've noticed in the world.

    Here's mine, old cars vs new ones. The old one is compact, stylish, fully automatic, quiet and it just works. The new one is manual because low end automatic ICE cars start at $40,000, it's massive, looks older than the old printer and my CDs wouldn't even play in it without a seperate disc player, it also sounds like a monster truck when driving.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Left: printer
    Right: printer+scanner+copier+fax

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I got the Brother MFC-L2710DW for $140 in 2019

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Samsung printers were very very good. Samsung is such an inconsistent brand, they make either absolute trash or solid stuff

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