The Black Death essentially brought about the end of feudalism since serfs died and so labour became more expensive

The Black Death essentially brought about the end of feudalism since serfs died and so labour became more expensive
How true is this??

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Yes

      Was Black Death in late 18th century and in 19th century?

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not true in Russia

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. Feudalism still exists in Russia

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn’t this essentially prove the Marxist view that culture is determined by the material conditions?

    What ended feudalism was not the will of any man but the deaths of those by the Black Death.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      So the black death simply didnt happen outside of western Europe and some other places like Denmark?

      Good thing its not even true

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Black Death essentially brought about the end of feudalism since serfs died and so labour became more expensive
      >How true is this??
      Problem with this theory OP is that feudalism didn't end with the black death...

      >Not true in Russia
      >Doesn’t this essentially prove the Marxist view that culture is determined by the material conditions?
      Lol, the samegayging OP -
      1) presents a theory to explain something that didn't even happen.
      2) Mentions Russia and then Marxism as the solution..
      Like clockwork....
      Just mentally ill samegayging moderator OP morons pushing bullshit under the guise of "history".
      IQfy is nothing more than Christ-tards, communist-tards and upset ethnic minorites.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You seem angry

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Feudalism in Europe declined due to the rise of a centralised monarchy, the introduction of firearms, and the rise of nationalism and bureaucracy.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      to add onto what this anon said, you could see this in Japan with the various samurai revolts against peasants fielded with Western firearms imported by local lords

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good point

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not just better but fricking expansive
      Initially spain terrified the world with just a little more of ten thousand men
      In the Thirty years war a single army could have a hundred thousand men, a feudal state simply can't handle the cost for that

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a feudal state simply can't handle the cost for that
        Why not? Just because the mayor is called a count and the governor is called a duke, the organisation of power is almost identical to modern society, they just replaced landed titles with elections. People are still going to work, generating value in their little corner of their country, and it all comes together when the king or president or politburo decides to go to war. Literally the only thing that's different is they got rid of titles but the 10% still owns and runs everything?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bastard feudalism replaced "true" feudalism after the black death

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The decline of feudalism was already in progress long before these became real factors. You can't just say "centralised monarchy" from an Anglo-French pov when the exact opposite process was occurring in Germany, and Russia was centralised and nationalist earlier than anyone else and retained feudalism for longer than anyone else.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The Black Death essentially brought about the end of feudalism since serfs died and so labour became more expensive
        >How true is this??
        Problem with this theory OP is that feudalism didn't end with the black death...

        >Not true in Russia
        >Doesn’t this essentially prove the Marxist view that culture is determined by the material conditions?
        Lol, the samegayging OP -
        1) presents a theory to explain something that didn't even happen.
        2) Mentions Russia and then Marxism as the solution..
        Like clockwork....
        Just mentally ill samegayging moderator OP morons pushing bullshit under the guise of "history".
        IQfy is nothing more than Christ-tards, communist-tards and upset ethnic minorites.

        Feudalism didn't exist in the 8th century when there was plenty of Serfdom and Feudalism was in decline well before the Black Death with Kings becoming more assertive and able to destroy Feudal lords

        I’m getting the impression here no one has a consensus as to why feudalism ended

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Conclusion: It simply ended due to entropy. If other systems can work at all, the dominant system will inevitably be phased out over time. There doesn't need to be an active force against feudalism, just a lack of strong enough force against alternative systems.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It contributed but a bigger factor in medieval England was a push from landowners to clear out peasants and replace strip farming with lots of small plots with large sheep plantations.

    Feudalism was inefficient from a capitalist standpoint and the aristocrats started to shift from warrior class to capitalist class.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      > and the aristocrats started to shift from warrior class to capitalist class.

      Can I have some examples?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not him, but nobles encouraged the growth of free towns because the bourgious paid their dues in cash, not turnips

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    moronic people have poor immune systems.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Feudalism didn't exist in the 8th century when there was plenty of Serfdom and Feudalism was in decline well before the Black Death with Kings becoming more assertive and able to destroy Feudal lords

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Feudalism was in decline well before the Black Death with Kings becoming more assertive and able to destroy Feudal lords
      Dum,feudalism IS the King, all power flows from the King, and very little ends up with the peasants

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >feudalism IS the King, all power flows from the King
        Feudalism is an arrangement between Kings and vassals. Merovingian and the Carolingian Kings up to Louis the Pious had no vassals of any sort. Unless you think all Roman Emperors ruled a Feudal state, and all Hellenistic Kings did too.

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