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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fedora mogs all other options just by being sane with its default settings and included packages

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Strips Xorg out of KDE when KDE has 0 intention of doing so.
      >Has a special needs team twat Fedora repo for flatpaks with a bunch of nutered applications because Fedora devs think they know better than upstream.
      >Package manager made in Python (lol).

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        iirc fedora flatpaks exist because muh licensing. what's moronic is the atomic distros shipping with firefox in the image.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          which can be removed with no risk

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it can but it's a dumb decision. ublue wisely replaces it with the flatpak by default, i think.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't, because Flatpak breaks Native Host Messaging interface you need for many extensions to work (i.e. Keepass's)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >KDE mentioned
        stopped reading

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Of course the foooot pic

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          feetbros... i kneel
          but yes i use fedora, i like it in general but it pushes 1GB update every week

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good, keeps baby duck morons like you from shitting the userbase

        Why is font rendering so shit on Fedora? It's not new either. From F28 until I switched to a Mac at the end of 2023, I always had to manually configure the font rendering so it didn't look like shit and deal with "it's enough to not look as bad as it was". I installed it for the first time again on my desktop in forever and F40 still has shit font rendering out of the box. It's on a 27" 2560x1440p screen. If I can up to 4k will it improve? Because no amount of manual configuration has resolved how shit Fedora font rendering is.

        export FREETYPE_PROPERTIES='cff:no-stem-darkening=0 autofitter:no-stem-darkening=0'

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Package manager made in Python (lol).
        Latest version is written in C++

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Package manager made in Python (lol).
        Latest version is written in C++

        https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm using it now and it's still slow as frick. Apt and Pacman are still much faster. It's fricking zypper tier.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        plasma 6/wayland on fedora 40 a shit, it was a huge mistake to push it this early

        Did upstream really not intend to make it plasma-only?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      preach, based fedorabro

      >Strips Xorg out of KDE when KDE has 0 intention of doing so.
      >Has a special needs team twat Fedora repo for flatpaks with a bunch of nutered applications because Fedora devs think they know better than upstream.
      >Package manager made in Python (lol).

      >because Fedora devs think they know better than upstream
      because they do
      keep seething that they package your shitty software better than you ever could yourself

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Since when has doing free beta testing for mega corps been the domain of the white man?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Since the Linux Foundation start having Linus Torvalds on the payroll

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >arch users will say this while they use even more beta and unstable packages

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's the price of free, community based distro, not like a corporate bootlicker would ever get it

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fedora is community based though, Arch have a like 27 people who get into the project by personal invitations from other members.
          https://archlinux.org/people/developers/
          Linux overall is beta testing, Arch are beta testes for upstream packages, Fedora a re beta testers for new open source solutions that get adopted by Arch later.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Fedora is community based though,
            frick off, ibm shill.
            the whole infrastructure is owned by red hat
            all of the FESco members are red hat employees
            fedora is so cvcked they removed hw acceleration for videos because red hat doesn't want to get sued
            fedora is so cvcked they had to make a clause that distro is not supposed to be used by (insert all the countries AMERICA doesn't like).
            nice "community based", homosexual.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ah yes
            something is not community based because: *checks notes* they don't want to get sued and take extra care to obey the law.

            If you actually researched you would know that the Fedora Council is different from the RHEL council and they both take different opinions and different stances.
            One such example being btrfs

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >they don't want to get sued and take extra care to obey the law.
            that's the thing, community distro doesn't have to give a shit about this because, you know, it's not a legal entity. debian doesn't care, arch doesn't care and neither does linux mint. but if your "community" distro is provided to you by a big corporation so you can be their unpaid beta tester, then yeah, you need to follow big daddy US government laws

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >He's an unemployed children who thinks of himself like cyber outlaw

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh, so you're indian.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it's not a legal entity
            That doesn't work in the real world, there's a reason why Linux is a thing in the server world and not in the user space, having a legal entity is required. I can't install Debian on most of my client's hardware because there's no legal entity backing it up. This is why Ubuntu, Oracle, SUSE and RHEL are huge.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah if you actually wanted to go with Debian on the enterprise space you'd need to go with a company like Freexian.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They're based on France, getting a tax deduction would not be possible for me. Our company does offer Debian support, but clients sometimes have never heard of Debian, and with reason, it is not popular in the server space yet. Companies love to put blame on others when shit hit the fans, even though it doesn't work that way, if something fails with our Windows deployments, they will call us and blame Microsoft, if same shit happens with Ubuntu, they call us and blame Canonical, but in their minds Debian is non existant, they can't blame them. Companies are weird in their own ways.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah makes sense.
            You'd need to find a company close to you that repackages the product and requires funding to keep going.
            Similar to what various companies do with CentOS/RHEL.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >that's the thing, community distro doesn't have to give a shit about this because, you know, it's not a legal entity.
            ... they do, of course, its a legal entity
            >debian doesn't care, arch doesn't care and neither does linux mint.
            Because unlike them the Fedora devs come from a big enterprise commercial background and maybe care a bit more about the legal issues that may pop up than others.
            SUSE/OpenSUSE is the same way too
            So is ubuntu.
            If you install the nvidia driver or steam you are prompted with a EULA, if you do not accept you do not install it.
            It is important you actually are able to read and accept the EULA.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >So is ubuntu.
            Ubuntu offers you codecs though, despite being a corpo distro. I don't know if this is UK law leniency or what, but every corpo distro should be like this.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It is UK Law leniency, specially now they're not part of the European Union, SUSE also removed codecs.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They should all just headquarter in the UK then, frick.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It is UK Law leniency, specially now they're not part of the European Union, SUSE also removed codecs.

            They should all just headquarter in the UK then, frick.

            Ubuntu HQ is in Isle of Man, and as many know UK colonies are well known tax havens.
            In any case i just tested the ubuntu-restricted-extras package on distrobox and got the following. They definitely care but are simply not as meticulous as they should be with their packages.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why so mad? Chill out.
            Windows and Fedora removed codecs because of legal concerns, doesn't mean you should ship codecs just because, there are people who need operating systems that don't infringe licensing. What's the evil in that? I though the whole point of FOSS is to have 100% open source standards and licensing everywhere, if you support closed source standards, then why use Linux in the first place, because you sound like you are against it. Unless you specify exactly why RHEL gets your veins highlighted so much.

            Fedora is beta testing for RHEL

            It is alpha testing, CentOS is beta testing, most of Fedora features get dropped with CentOS. There are more differences between Fedora and RHEL than between CentOS and RHEL.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >someone doesn't want to get sued
            wtf?????????????

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is font rendering so shit on Fedora? It's not new either. From F28 until I switched to a Mac at the end of 2023, I always had to manually configure the font rendering so it didn't look like shit and deal with "it's enough to not look as bad as it was". I installed it for the first time again on my desktop in forever and F40 still has shit font rendering out of the box. It's on a 27" 2560x1440p screen. If I can up to 4k will it improve? Because no amount of manual configuration has resolved how shit Fedora font rendering is.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The state of Fedora is the state of 100% open source (technically and in licensing terms), if something doesn't work in Fedora ootb, it means it wasn't truly open source to begin with, or it has licensing restrictions, a lot of fonts have them, most linux users still rely on closed source stuff even if they're not on Windows/macos anymore.
      >Read about font licensing
      https://www.fontfabric.com/blog/fonts-licensing-the-ins-and-outs-of-legally-using-fonts/
      >Copr to get propietary fonts substitutes
      https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/hyperreal/better_fonts/

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >font licensing
        I hate capitalism

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, licensing also makes sure everyone can use stuff for free, but nowadays you hardly find things getting creative commons licensing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it doesnt have shit font rendering. it's just that ubuntu has really good font rendering because they actually put effort into making things look really good and polished. and im not just talking about the ubuntu font family, ubuntu has special font rendering patches that make things look way better. thicker and less blurry fonts.
      fedora has the same font rendering as basically every other distro except for ubuntu, it's just generally not very good on linux

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what does Ubuntu do specifically to make font rendering so awesome? Fonts besides ubuntu look better on it. Does fontconfig-ubuntu on the AUR work?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1: Do your usual font config in /etc/X11/Xresources and /etc/fonts/local.conf
      2: Install Gnome Tweaks.
      3: Enable experimental features in fractional scaling through the terminal with: gsettings set org.gnome.mutter experimental-features "['scale-monitor-framebuffer']"
      4: Log out and back in again.
      5: Open settings.
      6: Go to display options.
      7: Select a scaling option (I'm currently using 125%).
      8: Open Gnome Tweaks and go to the Fonts section.
      9: Set your preferred fonts, rendering and antialiasing styles to something that isn't eye rape (I use IBM Plex Sans regular for interface and documents, Plex Mono regular for terminal).
      10: Set your font scaling to something that you think fits (I'm currently using 1.25).

      Much improved my Fedora font experience on a 27 inch 1440p screen.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he thinks hes at the top.
    Nice hat 😉

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you portraying yourself as a basedjak?
      Isn't the whole point of basedjaks to make fun of people?
      This is a self own.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't see how Enterprise Linux isn't a massive waste of time at least since IBM acquired it and honestly well before. I cannot tell you why using it confer any benefit over using Debian/Ubuntu, not a single reason. I know it exists for the sake of coming with enterprise support contracts but it's not like you can't get those for Debian based distros.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I can't see
      Then you're extremely moronic

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ubuntu is gradually stripping away core native packages and replacing them with proprietary backend snaps. Debian doesn't even have a proper LTS lifecycle. Enterprise Linux doesn't have either of those problems. It also has the best Nvidia/CUDA support out of all distros.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ubuntu is gradually stripping away core native packages and replacing them with proprietary backend snaps
        the entire existence of ubuntu is dedicated to enterprise clients, moron
        >Debian doesn't even have a proper LTS lifecycle
        you mean that debian STABLE that has a 3 years of full support and 2 extra years of LTS support does not have a LTS support cycle? i hope debian read this!
        >best Nvidia/CUDA support out of all distros.
        is just a library you can have any library in any distro what kind of insane moronic shill is that. GTFO Black person WORSHIPPER

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the entire existence of ubuntu is dedicated to enterprise clients, moron
          Is this supposed to somehow justify what Canonical is doing with Snap?
          >you mean that debian STABLE that has a 3 years of full support and 2 extra years of LTS support does not have a LTS support cycle?
          Yes, that's exactly what I mean. 5 years is absolutely pitiful. RHEL and Ubuntu have 10-12 years as standard.
          >is just a library you can have any library in any distro what kind of insane moronic shill is that.
          See pic. Other distros simply do not get this level of first party support.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            10 years is too much, good thing containers exist so you can carry old shit into newer hardware and operating systems

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >10 years is too much
            No such thing. A new RHEL comes out every 3 years and a new Ubuntu comes out every 2. A decade of support means you have up to a decade to decide when to upgrade. But yes, now that containers are a thing, there seems to be even less reason to not use mature LTS releases as your host, unless you upgrade hardware very often.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its a shame that a distro with DNF + RPM shills flatpak so much. RPM is the best packaging format on Linux and its squandered by universal meme ones.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can use Fedora without using Flatpaks at all, just remove flatpak.
      Or install a version without Flatpak to begin with, Fedora Everything offers barebones Fedora.
      https://fedoraproject.org/everything/download

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know. I wish Everything was an offline ISO like what OpenSUSE and others offer, because several of my machines cant use the internet out of the box.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I usually have a 128GB USB with Ventoy and multiple images, for Fedora I download the latest ISO from the spins, the official links offer the first iso version, but I get the latest one, don't know why Fedora never updates links until the next version release.
          https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/live-respins/

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why is that not in the tabs? Is that actually official

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          IT is official, is part of the Fedora Alternative downloads
          https://alt.fedoraproject.org/
          But the Fedora project promotes the offline ISOs first like the Workstation, spins and labs over the alternative downloads.
          If you go to the main Fedora page https://fedoraproject.org you will find the section scrolling down, but you're right, they removed it from the tabs

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Weird. It's in the page, but not the tabs.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the problem is that fedora lacks a lot of packages. OpenSUSE has more packages but I don't like how opensuse does things.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fedora pretty much filters packages that include thess licenses
          https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/allowed-licenses/
          And exclude whatever includes these licenses
          https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/legal/not-allowed-licenses/
          So the current packages are on https://packages.fedoraproject.org/
          >Last refreshed on 2024-05-20 (76821 packages).

          Can you tell which packages you don't find?
          I'm asking because I make an script to setup Fedora/Debian/Ubuntu systems and maybe something you need I can add it it to my script, never hurts to consider more use cases.
          https://github.com/MiguelCarino/Carino-Systems/blob/main/setup.sh

          Probably you know how to add RPMFusion and stuff, in case someone who doesn't know is reading this
          sudo dnf install https://mirror.fcix.net/rpmfusion/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://opencolo.mm.fcix.net/rpmfusion/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm fedora-workstation-repositories dnf-plugins-cor -y

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Once you grow up you realize ARCH with btrfs snapshots is the white mans distro.

    An OS holding your hand like silverblue isn't needed, It's just common sense to back things up like games or photos. Your GPU or SSD could die tomorrow. An immutable distro or 6 month release makes no sense.

    I do wish arch had a live gui installer, It would make it number one for all linux users, it still is really. Arch is the best.

    Arch or nothing, because at least in arch when things break usually they are fixed as soon as the next version comes out.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >when things break usually they are fixed as soon as the next version comes out.
      >Arch doesn't test things first

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well good luck waiting 6 months for a new plasma 6 update or mesa drivers I guess

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You don't need to wait six months for a mesa driver update, only for features, and you can install yourself the next version if you really want it, just not with the official repo.
          Being rolling release is not safe by design, fixed releases exist so there's support, your post is just the typical arch gatekeeper who is full of himself, there's a need for an operating system that holds your hand, immutable distros are designed so non-tech people also have a system that doesn't break. Arch doesn't really have a compromise on being accessible like Debian and Fedora does.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Arch doesn't frick with upstream like Debian and Fedora does. Also writing your package manager in fricking Python and wondering why it's slow as frick shows Fedora devs are Dunning-Kruger homosexuals.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fedora isnt that slow, only the atomics are

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >good luck waiting 6 months for a new plasma
          6 whole montherinyos for the latest broken piece of shit updoot of a desktop?? BUT I WANT IT NNOOOOWWWW
          >mesa drivers
          Lol moron
          You can install whatever driver branch you want yourself if the default isn't good enough for you

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Manjaro exists

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >GNOME
    >the DE where you have to use single apps in fullscreen, like in a phone, because of a lack of proper window management and even a task bar
    >productive

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It does have spins
      https://spins.fedoraproject.org/

      Arch doesn't frick with upstream like Debian and Fedora does. Also writing your package manager in fricking Python and wondering why it's slow as frick shows Fedora devs are Dunning-Kruger homosexuals.

      Upstream versions of those systems are not meant to be used, just for testing purposes, again, rolling release is not safe by design, getting new updates all the times gives various issues, not only malware.
      >talking about dnf out of the blue
      Do you install packages all the time for a living or what? While it's true DNF is slow, doesn't mean it is unusable, if you're concerned about it being in python and its speed, dnf5 exists already and is written in C++, it hasn't been shipped by default yet.

      No antivirus. Gtfo with your aids os

      There are antivirus and threat detection, Linux Malware Detect is one of them
      https://www.rfxn.com/projects/linux-malware-detect/
      Clamav front end's like ClamTK have a horrible UI, I will give you that.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More like distro for productive anti-white man.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like Kubuntu.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No antivirus. Gtfo with your aids os

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >BBC spam pauses
    >checks IQfy
    >new RedHat ally thread

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do productive white men make IQfy threads about their favorite linux distro?

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *tips fedora*

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't use Fedora but is interesting how they document the project.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's a good flavor of fedora?
    I skipped it because I didn't like gnome.
    And what's their idealogy? I mean arch is all about bleeding edge while debian is all about stabilty.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I skipped it because I didn't like gnome.
      Fedora has multiple desktop environments, the Desktop environment does not represent the operating system.
      https://spins.fedoraproject.org/
      Also offer a barebones network iso.
      https://fedoraproject.org/everything/download
      >And what's their idealogy?
      Take off the ideology word from your head, it is software, ideologies are not practical.
      Fedora offers the current state of authentic 100% open source solutions, if something doesn't work, it is because it has technical and licensing limitations. As said in

      The state of Fedora is the state of 100% open source (technically and in licensing terms), if something doesn't work in Fedora ootb, it means it wasn't truly open source to begin with, or it has licensing restrictions, a lot of fonts have them, most linux users still rely on closed source stuff even if they're not on Windows/macos anymore.
      >Read about font licensing
      https://www.fontfabric.com/blog/fonts-licensing-the-ins-and-outs-of-legally-using-fonts/
      >Copr to get propietary fonts substitutes
      https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/hyperreal/better_fonts/

      , font licensing is a thing, codecs too, flathub is not enabled by default because some flatpaks may have issues with dependencies for being closed source or have licensing infringements and limitations (like Microsoft Edge or OBS), YOU can enable flathub repo and add RPM fusion repo, just isn't there ootb.
      With Fedora you realize Linux users doesn't really have a full FOSS setup, there are countless things that need to be made.
      Let's say that once local LLMs models become mainstream, and they will be, Fedora will promote such models to have open source and non licensed sources for such models.
      https://huggingface.co/ibm-granite/granite-7b-base
      While other distros will promote LLMs use just because, none is bad though, it will depend on real life constricts and laws. Not taking into consideration legal laws and thinking you can do whatever you want because you use Linux is not a healthy take.
      There's also a lot of hostility towards Fedora from the "community" because it is funded by Red Hat, which is not a bad thing really, considering the Linux Kernel, the Linux Foundation, the Khronos group (a bunch of companies that fund the development of opencl, vulkan, etc) are funded and contributed by corporations too. It is nonsense.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More like the distro for the improductive wide man lmao.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > for white man
    report to the Fedora Code of Conduct committee immediately

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fedora is beta testing for RHEL

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fedora is beta testing RHEL
      Fedora is beta testing the entire linux ecosystem more than arch.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use Nobara so fedora is pretty cool imo

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like the fact fedora is organized
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/41/ChangeSet

    Recently other distros have started doing this too
    https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/tsc/-/tree/master/minutes/
    https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/rfcs/-/merge_requests?scope=all&state=all
    Debian is very slow as always
    https://dep-team.pages.debian.net/

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No thanks I’ll use windows because I need my machine to boot up and get the work done. No time for troony tinkering

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never had a problem with Fedora, used both default Gnome and the KDE plasma spin.

    The fact the packages are recent and it keeps updated kernels is perfect for me. Fedora uses a CI/CD pipeline to test the quality and stability of packages. This ranges from general usable and installable to even automated GUI tests with e.g. OpenQA.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The fact the packages are recent and it keeps updated kernels is perfect for me
      Yeah? You really need all those new packages and all those new kernels, do you, boi?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >? You really need all those new packages and all those new kernels, do you, boi?

        You like running old tech? You a Debianboi?

        Kernel updates are important if you have recent hardware as well otherwise they won't be useable.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You like running old tech?
          Yes
          >You a Debianboi?
          No, I'm a RHELc**t
          >Kernel updates are important if you have recent hardware as well otherwise they won't be useable.
          Pretty sure RHEL backports drivers for new hardware into their old kernels, so I don't think kernel versions matter as much as you think they do

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm a RHELc**t
            I suggest going to Debian, don't want to have those new "features" in current programs. In fact you should install Debian old old stable for you, that's two releases back just to make sure everything is real stable.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you should install Debian

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm enjoying Fedora

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >distro
    >productive
    Pick one.

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