The Forms ARE real. Platonism is correct.

The Forms ARE real. Platonism is correct. Essence precedes existence, the highest level of reality is perceivable only by the intellect.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Magic IS real. Schizo theories of signatures and demonology is correct. Gematria is true. I am moronic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nothing of which has to do with Platonism. Are you drunk or expressing your truth?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, he's the schizo and I'm drunk. Drunks believe in Plato, schizos believe in gematria.

        (drunks know gematria is a ripoff of Greco-Egyptian numerology)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Theory of signatures
        >nothing to do with platonism
        sure.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nothing of which has to do with Platonism. Are you drunk or expressing your truth?

      No, he's the schizo and I'm drunk. Drunks believe in Plato, schizos believe in gematria.

      (drunks know gematria is a ripoff of Greco-Egyptian numerology)

      peak IQfy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Magic IS real
      Yes. Computer programs.
      >signatures
      Chemical bonds, logic gates.
      >demonology
      Abstract memes.
      >Gematria is true
      israelites are moronic.
      >I am moronic
      Yes.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're right!

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    retroactively refuted by Ἀμμώνιος

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wut u mean??

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Probably referring to Ammonius Saccas for some indiscernible reason.

        https://i.imgur.com/1w4xWVZ.png

        Lol. Lmao even.

        >Diogenes got brutally filtered by Parmenides
        Not the first, nor the last smug moron to endure this fate.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    symposium = drunk = Greek thinking

    It's in the rules don't blame me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      but Socrates never got drunk in the Symposium

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >symposium
      >"drunk"
      >Socrates gives a toast at the beginning of Symposium imploring all those present to drink to moderation and NOT get drunk

      You never read it, did you?

      >Plato
      BTFO by neuroscience

      in what way does neuroscience btfo Plato?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >accuses people of not reading it
        >later on they are definitely at the very least tipsy while alcibiades is super drunk
        Very impressive anon.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          is super drunk
          this just confirms you haven't read it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Alcibiades is very drunk but also he is a latecomer and he was already drunk before he showed up at the gathering. FYI that’s like basic Platonist dialogue stuff.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            exactly. he wasn't a part of the symposium. the only person with any deep philosophical insight in the dialogue is socrates who wasn't drunk.
            >FYI that’s like basic Platonist dialogue stuff
            now this is just embarassing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Usually, people who say "neuroscience refuted this" have no idea about neuroscience or at most have something they have read in a Malcom Gladwell-style book.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Plato
    BTFO by neuroscience

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If platonic forms are real what is the platonic form of ejaculate?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >forms are reeeeal
    whooa tell me more! like things actually exist? noway!

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the various dialogues but then I started reading The Republic and he's kinda moronic
    >kids should be raised communally and parenthood should be abolished
    >kids should be robots that have no autonomy outside of serving state
    >no one should have any rights at all unless they are for the express purpose of building and maintaining the state
    >all sex and procreation must by necessity be eugenic, for the good of the state of course
    What good is the state if it doesn't actually foster an enjoyable life?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Plato is dogshit when he's not repeating socrates
      Who wouldve thunk

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Republic is an autist's wet dream

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He literally just copied sparta

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      people always focus on the points that were meant to filter morons. the aim of the dialogue is made clear in the first two books. read it again.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Republic is an analogy, moron.

        This is such cope. Imagining the perfect city is a crucial step in Socrates/Plato's attempt to discover the nature of justice. If he's wrong about what a perfect city would be, then he's probably also wrong about justice, and he knows this. Therefore he must have thought that his idea of a perfect city was actually perfect. And that's moronic.

        >inb4 he was describing an ideal but wasn't trying to make it actually practical or something that could exist in reality
        No, Socrates explicitly objects to this idea. He thinks it could and should be achieved in reality.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yeah the dialogues defenitely wasn't about the tripartite soul

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well? How is he wrong?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        he did say women were just as capable to be soldiers as men so yeah he was wrong

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Republic is an analogy, moron.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lol. Lmao even.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      imagine being able to mog fricking Plato of all people like it's nothing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/8OUTySO.jpg

      imagine being able to mog fricking Plato of all people like it's nothing.

      That second paragraph isn't in Diogenes Laertius' book. It's literally made up by some butthurt redditor.
      Also:
      >...and one day when Plato had invited to his house friends coming from Dionysius, Diogenes trampled upon his carpets and said, "I trample upon Plato's vainglory." Plato's reply was, "How much pride you expose to view, Diogenes, by seeming not to be proud." Others tell us that what Diogenes said was, "I trample upon the pride of Plato," who retorted, "Yes, Diogenes, with pride of another sort."

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There are a lot of good criticisms to be made of cynicism.
        That they make a show of their poverty while pretending to renounce distinction seems to be the gist of Plato's critique.
        Cynics are somewhat similar to hippies and can be critiqued similarly for being hypocritical using the renunciation of distinction as a way to gain it...
        Another critique I find compelling is that they really are not self sufficient. I can't remember the author, but he critiqued them on the grounds that they were dependent on begging and more abstractly that no one is really self-sufficient. As everyone in a civil society is dependent on other's work in one way or another.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          maybe this is my personal bias or lack of knowledge but as much of a shit poster Diogenes was he didn't actually have anything to replace the systems and ideas he shit on. the best he could come up with is going "that's stupid" but most things end up "stupid" if you put too much thought into them, but most of the time they still work on some level or have value.

          there is no way to build a culture off being a cynic only to critique the one you're already in.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Since when did IQfy become /x/
    >B-b-bbuttt it's in a book
    Frick off

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imma analytical method the shit outta your b***h-ass propositions.
    >The Forms ARE real
    Define "forms". Define "being". Define "realness".
    >Essence precedes existence
    Define "essence". Define "preceding". Define "existence".
    > the highest level of reality is perceivable only by the intellect
    Define "highness". Define "level". Define "reality". Define "percievability". Define "intellect".

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      define "imma". Define "analytical". Define "method". Define "propositions".

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Define "define".

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    hardly anybody knows what the forms are, what it means to participate in them, or what they imply. most people who like Plato, especially on this board, have been conned into embracing a philosophical creole behind which there is no substance, explanatory power, or commensurability with modern thinking. metapolitics is certainly behind the shell-game enthusiasm. the remaining few who study Plato seriously are desperate scholars who are unlikely to find a satisfying answers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      t. desperate aristotelian thomist

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Aristotle was a Platonist though

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No colours without light, no light without darkness, no darkness without space, no space without time. Space and time are these Forms. Anything else is not knowable.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Neither space nor time mean anything in isolation. If nothing else is knowable, then those two things would not be knowable either since space and time only have meaning in the context of particular objects.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Neither space nor time mean anything in isolation.
        >in isolation
        In themselves, yes, because they're not things in themselves, but they can be examined individually, as did Kant.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Hence why they cannot be forms.

          Aristotle was a Platonist though

          Aristotle was a midwit pseud (the best one to ever live).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Do you think platonic Ideas are things in themselves? That's what Schopenhauer believed, and I agree with him. Maybe there ought to be a distinction between the kantian Forms and the platonic Ideas.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How are the Forms related to the instances, that is, how does the actual relates to the potential? How does the former cause the latter?

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are the platonism forms a type of theism?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      According to orthodox israeli, Christian, and Muslim interpretation? Yes, absolutely.

      Usually, people who say "neuroscience refuted this" have no idea about neuroscience or at most have something they have read in a Malcom Gladwell-style book.

      >symposium
      >"drunk"
      >Socrates gives a toast at the beginning of Symposium imploring all those present to drink to moderation and NOT get drunk

      You never read it, did you?
      [...]
      in what way does neuroscience btfo Plato?

      The Churchlands have their fedoras on so tight that they're reviving Platonism, you should go check them out.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Aristotle demolished the doctrine of the forms and we’re just going to pretend like it didn’t happen? Feel like you’re in a high caste yet?

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