The modern internet is a sad place.

The modern internet is a sad place.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what's sad about that, aside from the vomit inducing destitution of that golem?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And that's how it should be. Digital things free to copy and share. If want money do it live or get paid for new records.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I agree with you but it makes me question why the frick I'm paying for Spotify

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You should stop. Your money is going to the actual worst people on earth, not anyone you're listening to. Rip all the music you care about and just stop paying them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not free though. Somebody is getting that Spotify money and it's not them.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Entertainment is not an actual job.
    It produces nothing, and feeds no one.
    I won't pity those creatures.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The modern internet is a sad place.

      Too many people trying to make it as musicians.

      Why do you hate musicians so much

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're talking to NEETs with no creative abilities. They are projecting their inadequacies.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why would I like them? They don't do me any good.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          in that case, I hate you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think about you at all

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Does a musician put food on my table? Does a musician put fuel into my vehicle? For what purpose would a musician serve my life?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, it's entertainment to perform music. In some cases like for a movie, game or such, where there is a lot of requirements, it can be work. But if they just relaxed their requirements someone would do it for free, for fun and fame.

      It gets even worse in some places like Sweden, where there is "artist guilds" that entitle them to be paid without making anything someone actually wants. And there's bullshit rules, like in government funded construction, 15% of the budget needs to be for art, and the artist makes whatever piece of shit (Sometimes, literally) they want and everyone hates.

      The world would be a much better place if it was just their hobby and they did something actually good for society like nursing or plumbing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Damn. Sweden sucks in a really "1st world" kind of way.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah totally. with covid they paid out more than 70M USD to artists for doing nothing. It's a lot for such a small population. Oh, and there was not a lockdown either, and there was no stimulus check for regular working people like in the US.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's a kind of bribe (like all welfare, really) : "here's some money, please don't become hard criminal"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I make music.
      It can be described in three words, so it's a real job.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I make software
        boom, roasted

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I make software
        boom, roasted

        If you're producing a product that people want to buy, that's a real job.
        Fake jobs are jobs that hoodwink people into paying.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well people obviously aren't interested in actually paying for their music so that's not a real job.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Shitty guideline is shitty

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            People are interested in murder for hire and sex for hire daily, and yet the government is constantly intervening. Why such overreach?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's how all of them start out, unless they had a leg up. You don't just start making tons of money. Same thing in business. If you just started and you made 3k in your first year, that's good. Try to multiply it by the next year.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I frick b***hes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      art in general isn't, comrade

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >comrade

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Same can be said about most STEM jobs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >no one should be able to pursue any form of passion or natural talents
      >no one should give an artist any form of monetary compensation, even if they create a piece that they truly love and cherish

      Holy shit, have a nice day you worthless israelite.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >making up shit that was never said nor implied
        You're free to pursue your passion or "natural talents", just don't expect money for it. Whatever money you get is purely voluntary from the goodwill of others. Living off of the charity of others is not a form of employment, therefore it is not an actual job. Not sure what you don't understand about this.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I get where you are coming from but jesus frick you are such a fricking moronic autist it genuinely makes me sad that you this fricking stupid.
          If it wasn't for entertainment of any kind the world would be a soulless grey and dull place, entertainment is just that, entertainment meant to brighten up the world and bring some actual life into it.
          Sure, a lot of entertainment is moronic slop with no inherent value, but to generalize all art into some "it has no value" is honestly the most moronic shit I have heard.

          Unironically go slam your head against a wall you fricking moronic monkey.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      based. everyone should work at the widget factory 7 days a week, 12 hour shifts.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      entertainment, farming, ranching and fishing. those are the only real jobs in society. everything else is a meme.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Anything that requires enforcement of IP to extract value from working class people is a meme (this means entertainment). Sorry bud.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          no requirement there

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          But it doesn't. The music industry requires IP, but musicians don't. They can still be paid by enthusiastic fans, for official merchandise, for performing, for making music on request, and so on. It's only when you add no value yourself but only hog the rights to what others created that you NEED intellectual property law to make money.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      newbies and amateurs
      Spotify is to reach out to new listeners and make new fans, they absolutely 100% need it.
      The rest is literally skill/location/marketing issues.

      Said no one ever.

      And that's how it should be. Digital things free to copy and share. If want money do it live or get paid for new records.

      "But ma and pa said that their parents only paid n amount, so that's all I'm paying as well. It's fair."
      But it is not. After inflation, what people pay for live musicians these days is often less than half of what they would have earned in the '70s. Ignorance and the internet have crippled the music industry crossing the year 2000. The big names are doing fine, but everyone else gets cucked badly. It's incredibly bad.
      Music is hard to make a main job, unless you are an orchestra member, a university music professor, or a reputable media composer, seemingly, and these are just minorities among musicians, as far as I know.

      So anyway, to bring this into actual IQfy territory, the advent of AI is just going to make things worse, like kicking a defeated, beaten-up person laying on the ground. This is sanding gaping wounds with salt blocks, ripping a severely wounded man a new one.
      Music has been trashed already and AI will worsen the situation more.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      99% of jobs don't create things necessary to survive

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Most important software is developed by unpaid volunteers too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's why I advocate for population culling. Roughly 15 people out of 16 needs to die.
        Hollywood's Thanos was not fundamentally wrong. He just didn't take things far enough.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          crazy to think this is the sort of underage moron reeing at artists

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you first you're sucking up all my oxygen

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >b-billions must die!
          Do incel chuds really say shit like this and believe they won't be the first to try the new gaw chambers?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            IQfy needs an originality filter, holy shit you're moronic

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Just add a simple filter
            /incel|ch.d/i

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I say shit like this out loud in public with a straight face, chin up and chest out. Also i look like picrel. Anymore questions?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Good idea. You can start with (You).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wisely said, Shekelstein!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      imagine how soulless the world would be without music, art, culture etc... is that a world you want to live in?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        People will still create all of those things in their own free time. Propping them up as "businesses" is just leading to more slop.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Creating art or a product of entertainment, even during its most flourishing periods like painting in the 18th century or making a rock band in the 60's used to mean something.
        It took a minimum of skill and talent to even begin the creative process, and even then I imagine 90% of artists were filtered and their works hardly saw the light of day.
        Nowadays any specimen with an access to a computer can churn out his piece, leading to such oversaturation in the entertainment industry that the value of a single artist or content creator is virtually nonexistent and completely expendable.
        So yeh, any specimen crying the blues over his plight means nothing, because the market is swamped with aspiring and disposable content creators.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is a problem that was caused by modern communication, media, and eventually the internet. Everything became fast and low effort. Only 50 years ago, nobody would have read my or your ramblings because no newspaper would print it. Now you read my comment which I only typed because I was waiting for the compiler to finish.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Depends on the genre. For anything performance-oriented like rock, metal, jazz, etc., you make an album so you can go play it when you gig. The cause and effect is the other way around. If the bands never went out and played gigs, record sells would have never happened in the vast majority of cases. I guess it's a different story for disposable manufactured pop artists.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No one is asking you to pity them. What I got from OP's post is that modern internet is basically useless.

      Spotify is the worst earning outlet for them. They could do without spotify and still be succesful. If anything it's the modern internet that's a problem since things like Spotify barely get used to discover new artists.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      consultthegraphs.jpeg

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you would be the first one to cry if your bingbings, your anniemays, your music or your capeshit, your paintings, your books stopped existing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don’t watch cartoons or play vidya my man.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      programming isn't a real job either.
      it produces nothing and feeds no one
      I won't pity you when AI takes your jobs.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >There is no monetary reason to be on spotify, the only reason we are on there is because fans asked.

    This is where you are wrong, kiddo.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    and they sold the merch becuase of spotfy, b***hes always complain

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >fans asked
    >20¢
    What

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Both fans asked.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The modern internet is a sad place.

    Too many people trying to make it as musicians.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There are definitely a lot of musicians, arguably more than the market has capacity for (though keep in mind 90% of people only listen to the <1% of music that gets pushed extremely hard by the major record labels), but that still doesn't explain how extremely hostile the market is to indies compared to, for example, indie game devs or indie (drawing) artists. Those have it easier in both the commercial sense and the simple exposure sense. The music industry is completely controlled by three megacorporations that specifically try to keep the entire Western audience locked to a small portfolio of artists they can focus on, because that's more profitable for them. They control all the platforms, usually directly but in Spotify's case indirectly. They have sublabels of sublabels of sublabels that call themselves 'indie' to trap fledgling artists. Even genuine indie labels often have to go through (subsidiaries of) major labels to get things done. The whole system is fricked, and it's by design so the people at the top can profit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >indie game devs
        99% of people only play the <0.01% of games that get pushed extremely hard by console vendors or other multibilliondollar megacorps. I'm not sure musicians have it that much worse.
        >indie (drawing) artists
        Surely not.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yeah ive heard the kinds of music /dmp/ gays make, programmers dont make good music

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They need to learn an actual instrument and some music theory.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They don't realize it's free exposure. They might not make the money directly with spotify but maybe someone sends their friend their playlist and then they also start to listen to them and going to concerts.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >we'll pay you with exposure
      there's a goy born every minute

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Exposure is literally more valuable than money as a small artist.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Only if you're not dogshit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A quirky ethno-rock band from Moldova was invited to open the concert for Red Hot Chilly Peppers in Moscow some 25 years ago. It was probably one of the largest crowds to hear songs in Romanian until that point.
        Needless to say, they got big after that, both at home and abroad.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          "We'll pay you with exposure" bullshit often gives little actual exposure. Being an opening act for a bigger band is genuine exposure, but that's not what something like Spotify gives.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          that's pretty cool

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >exposure
          Fun fact they got paid cash money for that performance.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's not free, you have to pay for it

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >i am in a small and new band
    this is why he made so little money on spotify.

    once you get big enough, its consistent money rolling in.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    isnt that like 40-70 streams?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And how did the fans that came to the gig and bought merch discover them?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not on Spotify

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's how it always has been. You get paid in backstage blowjobs and free catering.

    t. bandgay

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah I was gonna say, this isn't "the modern internet", small time musicians have always earned shit and are lucky if they make back the cost of their gear

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >small time musicians have always earned shit
        Yes, they made 500 dollars. Now they make twenty cents.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Suck it up. If you want to earn money, buy a Yamaha keyboard and book weddings. Your literal garage rock has been done 100000x already. Nobody is going to pay unless you produce a hit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Silly anon, hits are produced by record labels' marketing divisions. Whether something is a hit in 2024 has nothing to do with the artist's efforts.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I know.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They don't realize it's free exposure. They might not make the money directly with spotify but maybe someone sends their friend their playlist and then they also start to listen to them and going to concerts.

        >i am in a small and new band
        this is why he made so little money on spotify.

        once you get big enough, its consistent money rolling in.

        This isn't even about making money. Its more about spotify. Like how to frick is the main way of listening and exploring music the least paying?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It pays shit if you are shit. Bandcamp buyers? Probably their mom and dads and other relatives and some lefties.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >main way of listening and exploring music
          pretty sure thats still youtube and it pays dogshit as well

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Like how to frick is the main way of listening and exploring music the least paying?
          Question kind of answers itself, doesn't it? If you don't like what Spotify pays you can go to any other smaller platform where no one will listen to your music.
          Spotify enjoys market dominance so they can pay literal cents for your content while they enjoy the full benefit of people paying for premium to listen to your content without ads. For the price of each premium subscription Spotify can get 50 "small and new bands" on the platform.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Because they're not popular.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      im a computer programmer that gets paid in getting to use a nice laptop that i dont own which spies on me

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    According to this random graph, they got about 66 streams in the entirety of 2023

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So Spotify overpaid them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Distributors and record labels take a cut

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Skill issue
        https://distrokid.com/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          what is the point of this service? you're paying them just to upload all the shit to streaming services instead of doing it yourself? how would this net any more additional money vs. uploading them yourself?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You can't upload to spotify yourself.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No one uses your shitty rent seeking app, Rakesh.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Distrokid costs $22.99 a year, so at $0.003 a stream this band would need 766,333 streams just to break even every year.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's kinda humorous that musicians have to struggle this hard to recoup a $20 investment

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah Distrokid is totally worth 1.3 billion though

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's kinda humorous that musicians have to struggle this hard to recoup a $20 investment

            23/0.003=7666 morons

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://eu.usatoday.com/story/life/2022/10/22/how-much-per-spotify-stream/8094437001/
      >The Union of Musicians and Allied Workers found artists were paid an average of just over half a cent per stream in 2018 and under a third of a cent in 2020. The average artist pay rate declined 43% over two years.
      >Instead of paying the artists directly, Spotify pays the rights holders, who pay the artists. According to Spotify, roughly two-thirds of the revenue from music goes to rights holders. Rights holders are the licensor the artist pays to represent them and upload their music to Spotify — often record labels or distributors. This money is divided into recording royalties (paid to the artist via licensor) and publishing royalties, which goes to the songwriters or owners of the song. Artists are paid different amounts depending on the contracts they have with their rights holders.
      They probably got a lot less than the $0.0033 per stream listed there.

      And how did the fans that came to the gig and bought merch discover them?

      Probably through multi-band events or as opening act for larger bands. It's not in the big record labels' interest to give exposure to smaller bands so I highly doubt Spotify pushes people towards obscure artists rather than the opposite way.

      >i am in a small and new band
      this is why he made so little money on spotify.

      once you get big enough, its consistent money rolling in.

      Utter bullshit. Even the slightly bigger bands don't make a living wage because record labels will frick you over and take all the money. The only way to actually make money from music is to either become mostly independent (fully independent is nearly impossible due to how much the major labels control the industry) and somehow retain an audience in spite of the big labels' attempts to block competition, or become so big you get leverage over the big labels (and even then there's horror stories of big-name artists still getting fricked by labels). Making music for general listening is simply not profitable. (Specialized stuff like making soundtracks is still viable.)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Goddamn, Spotify is fricking horrible.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Well yeah. Even successful musicians go "what the frick" when they look entire generations of people consider music to be essentially free and retire because the work of creating music is either not rewarded or it helps people who are not you.

    Still its pretty weird places like spotify and Amazon dare to pay so little for streamed music.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >€2000 from gigs
    >Guys, why can't we make money on Spotify?
    Bruh, you've got like 200 fans, tops. Being Spotify means you can be found by others.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In democracy artists are just merchants. I laff so hard when they whine they feel threatened by AI.
    GOOD RIDDANCE. LESS ARTISTS==BETTER SOCIETY

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is things returning back to its natural place.

    Throughout most of human history, roles like artists, musicians and actors were considered very lowly. The only exception to this were those artists and musicians who were so technically brilliant at their craft, that it warranted some level of success. Think the likes of Beethoven, Michelangelo, Leonardo, etc. These people treated their craft for what it was...an actual technical craft which took years of hard dedicated work to cultivate. They did it to bring joy to the people, and understood that was their role. Definitely it wasn't done to 'express themselves'.

    Since the boomer generation, it has set up the expectation that if you become a musician in a 'band', you should expect to have a comfortable existence at a minimum, and ideally be rich and famous. So now these useless wasters are upset that they can't make it anymore being lazy drug-addicted 'musicians' and putting together a few 3-chord 'songs' in Ableton, and spending their evenings partying and sleeping with groupies. Sorry homosexuals. Gravy train has ended. Get back into the rightful place of people like you, which is that of the bard who would travel to places and sing and play songs for small donations enough to subsist on.

    You don't get to be rich and famous anymore for doing worthless shit which ultimately doesn't contribute to society.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You don't know shit about musicians' circumstances, either past or present.

      >Think the likes of Beethoven, Michelangelo, Leonardo, etc. These people treated their craft for what it was...an actual technical craft which took years of hard dedicated work to cultivate. They did it to bring joy to the people, and understood that was their role.
      Yeah, complete bullshit. It was patronage that enabled them to do this; rich people bored enough to waste some of their enormous wealth to commission people to make stuff. It wasn't talent that made you rise to the top, it was connections.

      >Since the boomer generation, it has set up the expectation that if you become a musician in a 'band', you should expect to have a comfortable existence at a minimum, and ideally be rich and famous.
      This is bullshit the music industry tells us, but it's never been true. Especially in the earliest days of big label music, often romanticized as the most glamorous, artists got fricked over HARD by labels (sometimes simply getting nothing at all from record sales and making a profit only from live events). Some artists eventually managed to get enough leverage over labels to actually become rich, but there never was a gravy train. That's a myth.

      >which is that of the bard who would travel to places and sing and play songs for small donations enough to subsist on
      Indie (music) artists typically lose money; expenses run higher than the income they get from their music. A lot of artists would be happy to just make minimum wage with their music, but that's simply not viable. It has to be a passion thing you spend money on outside of work (or at best get a token financial reward that's not remotely enough to subsist on).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      listening to know-nothing NEETs talk about the arts is so fricking sad. good thing they'll never be able to enact any of their moronic views

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kek
      my dear fool of African origin,

      Bethoven et al., got by on scraps or primary, normal jobs unless commissioned by the Catholic church or bored, rich people, and it was said rich pigs that preserved their music for posterity, too. And the Catholic church. Mozart's broke, loser butt sold his 41st Symphony for booze, for example.
      Music is expression of oneself and one's emotions. always was and always will be, or it wouldn't be an art, my foolish Black. To go and say otherwise is heresy and slander.
      Artists making a living purely off of music is a dream many will aim for and fail to achieve. It happened with the boomers and it continues into today. Music has often been cost intensive without full payback: it was non-profit as far as the money.
      The "gravy train" is a lie some perpetuate and romanticize about. Hardly anyone managed to do that, most folks had a regular wage job they depended on, same as today.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I still think drunkenly noodling quiet harmonically simple stuff while you talk with your friends is extremely underrated.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I miss the old internet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      maddox lost

      ?t=144

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      maddox did have some great essays. its a shame how infrequently he writes now.

      >There are few things in life that go as well together as chocolate & peanut butter, mac & cheese, and Vice Magazine & sucking dick.

      He really has a way with words... jesus christ lad.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's with the recent trend of everyone trying to make it as a musician? I've had several old ass abandoned youtube channels I were subbed to like a decade ago rebrand to generic EDM fruitiger aero looking bullshit in the past few months.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fame and status. Girls jerk off to famous musicians, not funny or interesting youtubers. And since they have an audience they have a 100x bigger chance to make it than commoners. Hell, you can even purge your "sins" against society by becoming a "deep" musician. Just look at pink guy, that would be banned from society today for what he did if he didn't become deep and artistic generic emo musician.

      It's a kind of bribe (like all welfare, really) : "here's some money, please don't become hard criminal"

      Yes. But when it comes to artists it's more like a bribe to not become critical of the establishment, they're too pussy to be criminal. They would get a real job if they had to.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sir! Sir!
        T-The unproductive people, sir...
        T-They wrote SONG about how cruel we are to force them to work for a living!!!

        Oh no! /o

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          dude, nice digits

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      "Recent"? Black person, this has been going on since the 1960s.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He must be younger. The guy who does literally anything to spread his "demo tape" as far and wide as possible is not just a meme. There were sitcom episodes about it all the time.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >2000€ playing gigs
    so like two or three gigs in bumfrick nowhere tops
    are these idiots really surprised they don't rake in millions over spotify? sounds like a classical case of mommy told me I'm the next queen clashing with reality kek

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What kind of gigs are you imagining? Indie bands don't get to perform at large festivals, they perform in small venues.

      You need to publish on Spotify through a label, I don't know why

      Probably so as not to threaten major record label dominance.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nowhere in that tiny post did they say they expected to rake in millions. why are you projecting so much onto them?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Are you really so autistic you don't understand hyperbole?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >gets called out on moronic projection
          >"u-uhhh i was j-just being hyperbolic...just a joke b-bro..."

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >y-y-you're p-projecting!
            Thanks for confirming I guess.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Your hyperbole makes it seem like the expectation is that they will earn a lot of money from music; if not millions then at least the equivalent of a high salary. But very few musicians can even make minimum wage with their music. That's an entirely different level of underpaid.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    No one uses your shitty rent seeking app, Rakesh.

    https://trapital.co/2021/08/16/why-distrokid-is-valued-at-1-3-billion/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's nice, and maybe Distrokid works for someone like 21 Savage, but it won't for most people.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      answer my questions here

      what is the point of this service? you're paying them just to upload all the shit to streaming services instead of doing it yourself? how would this net any more additional money vs. uploading them yourself?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Distrokid cuts out the middlemen by being a middleman.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You need to publish on Spotify through a label, I don't know why

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          what is stopping a label from seeing their music being uploaded on spotify via this middleman and demanding they get all the revenue ala how youtube has been doing it for years?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            A contract I guess, though labels have been known to screw over artists on many occasions

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the global intellectual rights concept that israelites built and maintain, which values their songs rights portfolio to whatever price they set ~~*by the market*~~.
            In that structure, there are several types of rights in the music items. There are rights from the recordings, from the composition score, and others. Each can be leased or sold.

            The scam that record labels do is getting artists to transfer their int right for the composition for a cheaper studio recording. Note that the studio gets the recording rights because they fabricate the master, and also the rights from playing it, and certain venues (tv, games, whatever). I call it scam because record labels will get the composition rights on cheap, which they pay the advance cash or whatever called which is far less how much a composition is valued.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          because the pennies from playing the recordings have to be sent to the label or rights assoc. representing that collector.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >look they raised retar- venture capital!
      Enron was valued at 70B, Wirecard at 25B, WeWork was value at 40B or 50B and I think we all know how that ended. Valuation means less than nothing, and in cases like this with no path to profitability or even userbase it's an indicator of a scam not a successful company never mind business model.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's 50 streams.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The internet was not a place to live but to vacation.
    The same way fast food was not a meal but a treat.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Wahhh host our entire discography for free online and distribute it throughout your massive worldwide data infrastructure and host servers with capacity for millions of simultaneous streams just to allow any one of our 500 fans to stream it anywhere in the world whenever they want and pay us for the privilege
    Lmao

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    467
    i love when incels have a meltdown when they called out on their moronic bullshit lmao

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You get your content out there and then people want to see you live. How much music streaming drives concert ticket sales though is up for debate.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >playing/making music for money and not for passion
    that homosexual deserves to be miserable

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I mean I have a passion for writing software but I also want to get paid and not starve, this is a stupid argument.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Then you can sell your software and see how much you and your software is worth.
        But like in OP's case probably not much.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dude there's many anons on these boards who think you should slave away making things for their enjoyment and if you ask for a crumb for support they will hate you for it. It's very strong on IQfy. Anons complaining about games, but won't attempt to make their own. They will just criticize people making games and treat them like shit. I know a lot of people who make art are fricking annoying libshits, but it just show they're just a consoomer. People used to hear a story about a good artist who died poor and thought "damn that sucks". Those anons hear that and think "good, frick them", while they enjoy their creations and want them to make them for their own entertainment.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      if that really is the case for the homosexual screenshotted in OP's pic, then they will learn that music for money is incomprehensible and extreme stupidity, the only folks who will do it and stay are those passionate about it, it is not worth it for anyone else by an astronomical margin, though it could be argued that this is a great thing for music, in a way

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have a band I like. I listen to them on spotify.
    When they came into town, I went to their show, and bought every record they sold. I took the records home and left them on my shelf unopened.
    I don't care thay they don't make any money of Spotify, especially considering the alternative would have been pirating it vs ripping it myself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      leaving them unopened might give them some collector's value down the line. good shit anon.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    rate my music, I'm trying to get famous

    https://vocaroo.com/1nEyIQGGDk7x

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Utter dog shit

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The universe is finite.
    Nothing produces anything.
    Everything is worthless.

  32. 1 month ago
    PUDDI PUDDI

    Make some furry / trannie specific songs. Perform at furry / trannie drug fueled orgies. Give people a bunch of QR codes to donate. Plaster them everywhere.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But the money is in appealing to the 99% majority, not to some weirdo 0.5%.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ok well in that case perform Teletubby songs and put QR codes everywhere to donate. Or Sparky Wiggles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FtLiHuAT9Y

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          99% aren't babies at all, even if they act like it

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    arts makes the human condition more tolerable. It's one of the oldest thing we've been doing alongside hunting. You are soulless.
    It is something to be treasured.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >one of my favorite artists started shilling NFTs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >one of my favourite artists went down the alt-right facebook-is-inside-my-laptop 'the coof isn't real' pipeline

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Never meet your heroes should be expanded to "never take to heart anything your musical idols say"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          this, Mac DeMarco doesn't even smoke Viceroys. I cried for 5 seconds.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why are edgelords on IQfy pretending it hasn't been known for over a decade that spotify gives almost nothing to the musicians? no, surely the reason must be that they have no fans.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >fans asked
    >people are able to find your shit
    >your shit gets recommended to people
    >you can write whatever description you like and notify people about your gigs

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The entire band for a whole year? That's like a week's salary holy cow.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These guys must really suck. I get ~60 euro a month from spotify and I'm not even a musician nor in it for the money kek

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What distribution service do you use, anon?

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >getting into music production for the money

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOOOOO I NEED TO ESCAPE THIS SYSTEM I DON'T WANT TO WORK WITH MY HANDS I DON'T WANT TO DO UNDERWATER WELDING OR SEPTIC TANK DIVING
    >YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I'M THE SPECIAL CREATIVE TYPE I DON'T DESERVE A SHIT LIFE PLEASE PULL ME UP RICH PEOPLE I'M ONE OF YOU I'M NOT A PEASANT I SWEAAAAAAR AAAAAAAAAAAAA
    tbh I feel for the guy. but he should have focussed on minimizing costs rather than making it big in this world.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The difference is a lot of these people started out that way. It's a little different if you started out working a lot, then said frick it.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's 2800 FRICKING EUROS and 20 cents. They're doing good damn. Holy shit. What's the point of this thread?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >conveniently misses the part where the most requested platform is also the lowest paying

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No shit, they have like 90 million billion songs on there. You're lucky you even receive any cents at all, or even ruples.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's 2800 FRICKING EUROS a year.
      Which is, uh... not enough to survive anywhere in Europe.
      The point is they could probably double that if Spotify distributed their listeners' money to them instead of Sony, Warner, UMG and other human traffickers.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not a fan of the big labels and their shit but what exactly justifies a litteral who?!-band to get any more money than what they get offered now? I mean spotify is probably the best thing to happen to the music industry within the last 5 decades. It has never been easier to find new artists and turn your back to the freemason infested mainstream. And spotify is actually supporting small artists by offering their various song-radios, "discover weekly" and other algorithm-based recommendations.

        Most of these artists are just self-righteous narcissists blaming their lack of success on LE EVIL companies/capitalism/ai or whatnot. But look how barely anyone ever has the balls to actually call out the masonic networks controlling the industry or even politics.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's never been easier to think you're turning your back to the freemason infested mainstream while giving them all your money.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >233 euros a month
      >not even 8 euros a day
      >for the whole band

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    unironically, I prefer bandcamp so that I can buy the album and stick it on my phone (now via jellyfin)
    I torrent a lot of music, but small groups I buy, because I want to support them.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Also it is a wrong concept to consider making music with the objective of getting money.
    But it is not wrong to have the target of making money by selling music 'services'. Might be a perspective issue.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because its 99% israelite-owned and they keep all the profits

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    To absolutely be fair, nobody seems to know or care if Spotify, platforms in general, are actually profitable.
    You'd have to be completely moronic to go on and on about how you should get more without thinking about how big the leftover pie even is to start with.
    That's not an internet thing, that's a business thing, and business things are not inherently "evil."
    The Bandcamp model is great all around though. I'd probably buy a few "digital blu-rays" of cartoons and animeshōn for my collection from time-to-time as an alternative to the eternal rentscam if they offered them free of DRM besides the simplest and most placebo encryption.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Spotify paid about €4.6bn out to rights holders last year, if I'm reading their financials right. This is out of €13.2b revenue. Their actual margin, after hosting costs and payment processing fees and what not, was €3.4b.
      That profit, plus some money they borrowed, went out to "admin", i.e. executive salaries, "R&D", i.e. making their software worse, and "marketing", i.e. buying naming rights for stadiums or whatever the frick. They're unprofitable by choice, insofar as you can say a public company of that size can make meaningful choices.
      The bigger issue is the deliberately unjust revenue redistribution system, where your €15/mo goes out to The Weeknd, Ed Sheeran and the Swedish criminal underworld instead of whichever artists you're listening to.
      I suspect that if they switched to a model where your money goes to the artists you're listening to instead of subsidizing normalBlack folk who don't even pay for Spotify, a lot more indies could make a living off of it.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Free publicity
    Thanks Spotify!

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not a spotify fan, but being a musician has never really been a viable career. Bands without any connections organically making it big stopped being a thing like 20 years ago so you can't even delude yourself into think the big record deal is around the corner. You do it for fun and hope that gigs cover the gas/travel bill basically.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >no monetary reason to be on spotify
    Right. No MONETARY reason. But think of the exposure!!!!

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >HAVING MY MUSIC ON THE BIGGEST MUSIC PLATFORM ON THE WORLD IS BAD BECAUSE I DON'T MAKE A FRICKTON OF MONEY OUT OF IT
    They don't have to pay to be there, so what's the fuss?

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    these other numbers arent exactly huge either. i mean 300 dollars of merge sold is like 5 t-shirts (probably bought by their grandmas), so what do they expect from their 2000 streams?

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