>The wages of sin are death. >Mary died

>The wages of sin are death
>Mary died
Therefore, Mary was a sinner.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Feast today.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What the hell is that abomination?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        My brother in Christ, that is an icon of sin.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      i'd frick her

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    only catholics believe that Mary was sinless, nowhere in the Bible does it say that she was sinless

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Only Catholics
      And Eastern Orthodox, Coptics, traditional Lutherans, etc…

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Orthodox believe that she did not willingly sin, but no one is free from Sin.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    hmmmm i mean we celebrate feast of the assuption of the virgin for a reason.
    maybe it has to do with the fact that she didn't die, maybe..

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mary died a bodily death.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        i don't believe she did.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did god remove the original sin of mary only

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      He preserved her from sin. There was no “removal”. He did so so she could be the perfect arc of the covenant within the Lord could dwell.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        okay why did he not do that with everyone?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Stop asking questions!

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You aren’t going to carry Jesus in your non-existent womb

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            God could give him a womb if he wanted.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        So there is salvation outside of Jesus?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, because the Immaculate Conception was directly ordained by Jesus

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sinful popes can be Christ's vicar tho

  5. 3 months ago
    Dirk

    Bad argument since Jesus died. A better verse is "all have sinned."

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      lol you almost reached awareness. We don’t die because of sin. Did all the miscarriage fetuses sin? Lololol

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus died as a sacrifice for all mankind's sins not his personal sins (because he didn't have any)

      Stop asking questions!

      • 3 months ago
        Dirk

        So? He died in the same way Mary did. The death that regenerates don't suffer is the second death.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Clarifying you mean degenerates?

          • 3 months ago
            Dirk

            No, regenerates. Born again.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sin and bodily death entered the world through Adam.

          • 3 months ago
            Dirk

            Yes but the perishing we avoid in Christ is in regards to the second death. John 3:16. 1 cor 15:22.
            Mary died, Jesus died, you will die.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm seriously confused as to where you think you're disagreeing with me

          • 3 months ago
            Dirk

            Having the first death does not indicate ownership of personal or original sin. You are not promised that you will not physically die in christian theology. I'm being very straightforward here.
            Jesus died, so death is no proof of sin.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Having the first death does not indicate ownership of personal or original sin.
            Yeah it dies because that's where death comes from
            >You are not promised that you will not physically die in christian theology
            Yes because everyone has sinned
            >Jesus died, so death is no proof of sin.
            Jesus choose to die for man's sin not because of his own sin. Also only his human nature died, his godly nature descended into hades to kill the demons and liberate the righteous souls.

          • 3 months ago
            Dirk

            I agree that you're seriously confused

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Having the first death does not indicate ownership of personal or original sin.
            Yeah it dies because that's where death comes from
            >You are not promised that you will not physically die in christian theology
            Yes because everyone has sinned
            >Jesus died, so death is no proof of sin.
            Jesus choose to die for man's sin not because of his own sin. Also only his human nature died, his godly nature descended into hades to kill the demons and liberate the righteous souls.

            *does

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Therefore, Mary was a sinner.
    Yes, she even said she was a sinner. She declared this when she said she needed a savior. Sinless people don't need saviors.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't any of the apostles make this shit clear as day in their works?
    >Uhhhh well actually you have to tease out her immaculateness, you see Luke referred to her using a greek term that is never used by any of other apostles in describing anyone - therefore, this indicates that Mary herself...

    • 3 months ago
      Dirk

      Because they had no idea of it

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >there will be a pope and bishops and purgatory and you will go along with everything the Church says
      damn that would have cleared things up. Is God moronic?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Bible clearly says that already.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      why should they?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because it would've stopped half the autism that's plagued christianity?

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If Mary was sinless, wouldn’t that have made her predestined and elected by God to be saved without Jesus? That sounds like a more hellish version of Calvinism

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are no contemporary records of the assumption, its a later development made from various traditions, at best. Why is this such a hard thing to accept for catholics.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw reading catholic dogma on Mary

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    This argument commits the fallacy of affirming the consequent.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Marry did not die.
    That is very clear in both oral tradtiom & theolgical doctrine. She chose also to "slumber" like that of Christ her son as well. The church has always been careful to not state that she, Mary, died.
    Assumption.

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    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >She chose also to "slumber"
      This is talking of God's election. Those not of the election, as recorded in Romans 11, God sent a stupor of slumber on the mighty, and they are not aware of what is going on around them.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nice point. To be clear on my end the "slumber" portion is essentially being depicted in OP's image.

        Our oral tradtion on a lot of the time period of St. Joseph's death to Mary's assumption is surprisingly expansive & written down now. It's not like its readily available though. Our catacises has lacked even just before Vatican 2.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Was it really that difficult for at least one apostle to explicitly state in no uncertain way that Mary was an unparalleled human being

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Marriage in Judaism is until death parts them. Joseph and Mary were married. Mary died and became the queen of heaven married to God (the father or the son since they're both king of heaven). No wait, only Joseph has to die. Well shit.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >le atheist pointing his fricking finger to others thread
    Always the same crap.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Paul is speaking of spiritual death, not the physical bodily death.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

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