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>every online game now requires kernel level anticheat which sends all your activities and files directly to your local three letter agency

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >every online game now requires kernel level anticheat
    no it doesn't, it's all cloud streamed by now

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > streaming games over internet
      Germanys digital agenda finally pays of

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >no it doesn't, it's all cloud streamed by now
      no, too much of the market will still not have the internet speeds

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      better than kernel level anticheat for sure

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    test

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And Linux still does not have kernel level Anticheat (and never will).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It does actually for few games like Genshin but that doesn't mean I'm gonna install it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Genshin's anticheat actually doesn't work. You need to disable it and risk a ban to play on Linux. The only ones that do is VAC, EAC and BattleEye.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dualboot linux + windows, encrypt the linux partition and only use windows for the online games. Problem solved

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Just so you can play league of homosexuals and gaylorant? No thanks

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yep

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >dualcuck goy we dont record all the encryption keys via ai gpu spy hardware and then send it to windows so that it can decrypt your loonix and run system.exe service which silently ~~*collect data*~~

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dota 2 works without kernel level spyware even on linux natively. Your answer, lolcucks?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We are talking about real games silly dotard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm thinking about become a dotagay after this announcement.
      Is the game actually worth it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Dota 2 works without kernel level spyware even on linux natively. Your answer
      Valve are awful at stopping cheaters, just open CS2 and it's a given.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They will tear cheaters a new one.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "cheater" is the new "pedo"

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I torrented Portal Revolution even if I could get it for free because I don't want the online bullshit. I'll torrent free games just to get away from that bullshit. that bad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's why they'll have the lions share of the data server-side.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    that is exactly why /gedg/ and /agdg/ should hurry the frick up and make some proper games instead of just 2D pixelated shit
    give me some good open source games to play

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There will never be a worthwhile competitive open source video game because it goes against the very essence of open source which is to modify the code and competitive game play which requires fairness and a level playing field

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just have the server verify the checksum
        Or play only with trusted friends

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Osu is a perfect example of what anon said
          The competitive scene is a joke and everybody cheats

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just host your own server

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gamers brought this upon themselves.
    I have zero sympathy.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    *sigh* some things never change.
    >plays TF2 instead

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And none of the games I play on my computer are from later than 2020.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >games continue to get scummier and more locked down
    >they also get worse
    Eventually these two lines will cross and everything will be equally as boring as it is streamed.
    Gaming will have a Disney-level meltdown of stale, blandness.
    (If it hasn't already)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not to mention a Disney level disdain for white people, masculinity, and heterosexuality.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this is caused by fricktards cheating in multiplayer games
    perfectly understandable

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There are always cheaters in video games. The issue is that the game has become so shit that the average player simply doesn’t exist, which means there are more cheaters per capita.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i don't see the problem since i can just not play the game
        game studios will do what they think is best for their bottom line

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The problem is that addressing the cheating issue is a red herring.
          The game is dead, which is why there are so many cheaters. Flies feasting on a corpse.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >game is dead
            then there's even less of a problem, since no one's playing it?
            i don't get it at all

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You’re the one who mentioned the “problem”. Don’t come to me for clarity, I think league dying is perfectly fine.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so it's a non-issue except for cheaters who're either no longer able to cheat due to this kernel anticheat or are trying to brigade the devs into removing it so they can continue cheating
            if you ask me the devs should stick to their guns

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This isn’t going to affect cheaters either.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ah, you're from the "kernel level anticheat doesn't deter cheaters" camp, which means you are either a cheater yourself or bad misinformed
            i'm done responding

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ah got it, you’re here for the social aspect of this decision and not for the technical aspect.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > trying to brigade
            ah, I didn’t realize you were stupid. sorry I’ll stop responding to you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      multiplayer games send data on where everyone is to your computer and your computer decides what info to show you. people figure out how to read that data (aka wall hacks)
      instead of the server working out what info to send you, they decide to keep sending you all the data and then install shit on your comp to bog it down and stop you looking at the data.
      its not necessary its just that average modern dev is moronic and no game dev has access to framework dev to make meaningful changes. all devs are moronic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To combat wallhacking, what would be the worst effects of keeping proxy playercontrollers hidden in the game world until the client sees them? If that makes sense

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To combat wallhacking, what would be the worst effects of keeping proxy playercontrollers hidden in the game world until the client sees them? If that makes sense

        Valve already does that in cs. The thing is you need to transmit positions not only for sight, but sound too.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just play your stupid video games on a console, it's what it's made for.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >every major developer uses kernel level anticheat on their games because it doesn't work
    nu-/g/, i swear

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It works and it's known to work well: https://imgur.com/a/5PZZLvi
      t. play valo

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That website is so shit, why didn’t you just upload the picture, moron?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Here, have more: https://imgur.com/a/TlWzYUb

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            More of what? That website keeps redirecting me to a picture of a battery.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        valorant has rampant cheating, it's just the cheats cost more.

        League doesn't really have a problem with cheaters, and ironically VAC bans from Dota 2 are still going to be 100x more effective because nobody wants to risk their account.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Do you mean "undetectable" hardware cheats?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            More likely VMs or other virtualization. Anti cheat software is notoriously low bar. The goal isn’t to get all cheaters, but only the most prevalent.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Vanguard detects VMs.

            All obvious ESP are detected in Valorant, how long has it been since you last played? The one time I thought I had a cheater I couldn't be sure but the team were convinced he was one.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Vanguard detects VMs
            Lol ok brainlet. How exactly do you think it does that?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How would I know? I don't work on the thing, why don't you try running up Valorant in a VM and see if it works?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I don’t know
            I know, which is why I asked you the question.
            VM detection works by probing the environment to find any signals of a VM. A properly crafted VM will give off the signals of a target environment, and not that of a VM.

            This anon is correct

            No I mean honest to God wallhacks, kernal level for anti-cheat is beyond lazy, it's a signal the devs can't think of ways to detect cheaters without literally monitoring everything the computer does.

            Resorting to kernel level Anti cheat is an admission of laziness. Detecting VMs is a game of cat and mouse that is antithetical to the lazy approach.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why does it matter if I know the details of how it detects VMs? The reality is it detects VMs.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It only detects VMs that aren’t hardened against detection. In other words, it can’t detect a VM designed to cheat.

            Why are you even here on IQfy? Go back to IQfy where morons like you belong.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Vanguard detects VMs.
            It ATTEMPTS to, doesn't mean it always can

            Sure, but it's the most effective AC by a long mile right now. Valorant would be much worse without it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I wouldn't know, I don't play any online games that isn't on a private/community server

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            then it doesn't matter for you at all, does it? why are you even here

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Says the Black person who knows nothing about software.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Amusement of what people put up with to play their bing bing wahoos.
            None of this shit is my problem.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >it’s the most effective AC
            According to who? The people who made it? The same people whose game is so easily exploited in the first place?

            The best anti cheat available is good community relations. Unfortunately once you lose that you can’t get it back.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The best anti cheat available is good community relations
            You've a very naive, idealistic view of the world. Cheaters will happily pay upwards for $500 for a good cheat, and Valorant costs nothing to play.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > Valorant costs nothing to play.
            Well I found your problem. You can’t keep cheaters out when they have an unlimited supply of accounts to burn while testing out security.

            And again, Riot could take actions to get rid of the paid for cheats, but that would take effort. Much better to ignore it until it kills their game, and then make PR moves like this one to convince people like you that they know what they’re doing.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The best anti cheat available is good community relations
            You've a very naive, idealistic view of the world. Cheaters will happily pay upwards for $500 for a good cheat, and Valorant costs nothing to play.

            Let’s also just completely ignore the underground industry of farming and selling LoL accounts, and ignore how Riot has let it perpetuate for over a decade now.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Surely this is partly why they're introducing Vanguard into LoL now?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It’s the opposite, LoL is hemorrhaging players to the point that a lot of people on the ladder are known cheats.
            The most popular LoL streamer buys accounts from these cheaters, because he made his fame from getting banned.

            Riot is extremely lazy when it comes to dealing with bots and cheaters, and Vanguard isn’t going to change much since it’s so ingrained and the community is very tight knit.
            Vanguard won’t affect this fruitful industry. If it did, they would have introduced it a long time ago.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't need convincing, Valorant's fun for me and I haven't noticed much cheating if at all when I play.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > I haven't noticed much cheating
            How would you even know what to look out for? The best cheats are those that go undetected, which is how this situation progressed in LoL for the longest time.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's pretty obvious when someone gets you immediately if you peek when there's no reason they know that you're where you're not supposed to be. Things like that. It can get tricky in tactical shooters since sometimes players will randomly shoot down good lines as cover fire but if it happens a lot you can tell.
            Undetected cheats mean undetected by the AC, not undetectable by players in a round.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The AC doesn’t work like you think it does. It isn’t watching for suspicious activity. It’s monitoring the program’s memory to prevent access or tampering.

            Modern cheats utilize VMs, and undetectable cheats are those that can be turned on and off, so your opponents can’t tell the difference between a cheat and a hot streak.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but what I'm saying is if playing Valorant or CS2 enough will let you know if someone's playing suspiciously well. So you and your team will know if there's a cheater.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And what I’m saying is you will never be able to differentiate between someone playing well and someone cheating, if the cheater plays wisely.
            >but in Valorant…
            I’ve heard this same excuse for every single online game under the sun. Valorant isn’t an exception.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Since I'm not playing at very high levels, if they're that skilled a using the cheat then they'll rank out of my bracket pretty quickly. So maybe the other big problem is smurfing, which is another thing that plagues these competitive onlien games.

            Cheats can just watch the screen and extract info that way. Requiring access to memory is VERY outdated.

            Do note, a cheat technique being outdated doesn’t mean it’s obsolete. On the contrary, the older techniques are typically the easiest to implement and the easiest to detect. A lot of free cheats will use these methods.

            If they're running another PC that reads the display output of the PC they're playing LoL on they deserve the ability to use these helper scripts considering how much work they've put into this.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > So maybe the other big problem is smurfing, which is another thing that plagues these competitive onlien games.
            Smurfing is more of a Riot issue due to the way they monetize and incentivize players (and of course the way they punish them).
            Free accounts means freedom to smurf. Matchmaking won’t be able to fix this.
            > If they're running another PC that reads the display output of the PC they're playing LoL on they deserve the ability to use these helper scripts considering how much work they've put into this.
            It doesn’t require another computer, but you’re right that the setup isn’t exactly trivial. Issue is people will move to these more advanced techniques if the easier ones can get them banned.

            But regardless, this goes back to my original comment: preventing cheating is more of a community management question than a technical one.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >If they're running another PC that reads the display output of the PC they're playing LoL on they deserve the ability to use these helper scripts considering how much work they've put into this.

            holy cope
            this is your brain on valorant and defending vanguard

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So you think cheaters should be allowed to freely cheat in multiplayer games and ruin the game for others, then?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yes.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            no
            but I also do not think forcing users to install kernel modules/drivers to play a game is the way to go

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >have things like VAC and overwatch
            also, cheating barely happens at all in league.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            community-run servers with admins who ban cheaters are entirely sufficient to deal with the problem, and in fact better at it than a centralized solution (because a higher false positive rate is acceptable when getting banned from one server doesn't get you banned from all servers)
            you only need invasive anti-cheat systems when you're a control freak trying to micromanage every aspect of the experience and as such aren't willing to allow community servers

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Surely this is partly why they're introducing Vanguard into LoL now?

            For instance, one of the popular “helpers” in league was one that watched your minimap for the enemy jungler going into fog of war, and timing it to estimate his location. Virtually undetectable.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Undetectable by the server, but surely detectable by client anticheat, since it's a process that reads the game memory?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Cheats can just watch the screen and extract info that way. Requiring access to memory is VERY outdated.

            Do note, a cheat technique being outdated doesn’t mean it’s obsolete. On the contrary, the older techniques are typically the easiest to implement and the easiest to detect. A lot of free cheats will use these methods.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Vanguard detects VMs
            Lol ok brainlet. How exactly do you think it does that?

            >Vanguard detects VMs
            >How exactly do you think it does that?

            >VM detection works by detecting the VM

            anon... you literally just did a
            >just draw the owl
            like a surface level popsci explanation masquerading as deep understanding

            saying it detects a VM by detecting signs of a vm does not say anything people do not already know

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >it's not the lazy approach
            except it is, it removes the need to make anti-cheat specific to that game, it only exists because it's Spyware making money off your data.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Vanguard detects VMs.
            It ATTEMPTS to, doesn't mean it always can

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No I mean honest to God wallhacks, kernal level for anti-cheat is beyond lazy, it's a signal the devs can't think of ways to detect cheaters without literally monitoring everything the computer does.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just wait until there's a hardcoded AI anime girl who will mock your premium currency levels.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/317978/microsoft-sets-16-gb-ram-as-minimum-requirement-for-copilot-and-windows-ai-features

    And she'll be running on hardware and using electricity that you paid for.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Online gaming hasn't been worth playing since around the late 00s.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Video games were never good

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thats where you're wrong, they were and I hate that people pretend otherwise.
        The mid to late 00s saw a big shift in online games. Eventually people stopped talking, community servers started to go away, hugely less of a focus on community, the general consolefication of things.
        Online gaming in the late 90s to early 00s was fricking amazing.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No thats gay. Play assault cube instead.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Chad

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They don't get it. Cheaters can just point a camera at a display or use a display splitter that doesn't change the id info.

    Anti-cheat software just shows that online gaming has turned into a stealth casino which children can put money into. We can only return to comfy online gaming if money is taken out of the equation. We should lobby congress to ban esports.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Anti-cheat software just shows that online gaming has turned into a stealth casino which children can put money into
      this anon 100% gets it. dangerously factual.

  22. 1 month ago
    tc $170k

    Good

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't play any of those games

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm an adult so I don't play video games.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The funny thing is that cheating is simply their excuse to implement this spyware. I've been playing for years in every elo, and I've only encountered a few cheaters. In fact, I think cheating is less common now than it was back in the day. Anyone who's good at the game can tell a cheater in no time, but banning has become completed automated, so as long as one's script is undetected, one may go on to cheat for hundreds of games, and there were a few cases of cheaters at the top of the ladder avoiding bans for months.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My theory is that the player base is so thin that known cheaters who use to be stuck in Diamond are now making it up the ladder. Of course this also means they show up in streamer games more often as well.

      This response is more for PR.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >This response is more for PR.
        It's very possible.

        i haven't played a moba in ages but mobas in general shouldn't be cheat friendly like shooters. a lot of it comes down to macro, team synergy, timing, overall strategy, etc. sure, you could probably get some advantages but it isn't like an aimbot which is close to unbeatable in most fpses. so i dunno why this is necessary for lol.

        >a lot of it comes down to macro, team synergy, timing, overall strategy, etc. sure, you could probably get some advantages but it isn't like an aimbot which is close to unbeatable in most fpses.
        You're absolutely right.
        >so i dunno why this is necessary for lol.
        That's why it's suspicious and why people are questioning it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i haven't played a moba in ages but mobas in general shouldn't be cheat friendly like shooters. a lot of it comes down to macro, team synergy, timing, overall strategy, etc. sure, you could probably get some advantages but it isn't like an aimbot which is close to unbeatable in most fpses. so i dunno why this is necessary for lol.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    kernel and usermode anticheats will always be bypassed, they require consistent up keep and it's a lot of wasted effort in the end. all they really do is prevent people from using free cheats. heuristic based anticheats are the future.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >you WILL play our free games
    No I won't lol

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >playing online games
    Now why would I do that?

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