Theological mommy issues

Christians depserately want a mother goddess figure in their religion, but can't due to their monotheism, so they replace the mother goddess with the Virgin Mary, but instead of worship it's veneration, which is really the same thing but a different name.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Christians
    Catholics*

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and orthocucks

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Christians
      *
      Mexicans*

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Catholics aren't Christian

      /thread

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kek'd.
        These are the same Catholics that tell you not to worship angels that are not explicitly named in the Bible

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have no idea why they're so obsessed with her when Jesus himself treats her as just another human being in the gospels.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mommy issues, what else?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But it's like a billion people, it's so weird.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But it's like a billion people, it's so weird.

            I think a lot of Catholics play along with the mommygays and don't really worship Mary

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Jesus himself treats her as just another human being in the gospels
          where?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.” He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.” - Matthew 12:46-50

            As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.” He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.” - Luke 11:27:28

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Catholics aren't Christian

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Catholicism isn't monotheistic, it's essentially panentheistic - there's no need for a mother Deity because the trinitarian, panentheistic God himself is an incredibly complex concept that most surface level catholics, cradle catholics etc. don't understand.
      You're somewhat right, though. Myth and Ritual in Christianity by Watts brings up this point and is actually a really great read overall. I think at the core of it is that The Church tries not to cut too much out of the actual verifiable history that's been constructed by the Church Fathers.

      Catholics were the *first* Christians.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Catholics were the *first* Christians.
        The pope schismed from the Orthodox church.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Roman Catholicism did not exist until the high middle ages

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That too.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're the same person.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there anything more disgusting than a Papist? An individual who has diluded themselves into believing that the "pope", a guy, a mortal, a human being, can perform miracles? An individual who believes that the Virgin Mary is somehow higher on the tier list of heaven than literally anyone else? An individual who believes that 4 antiquity age fanfiction tier books, The Apocrypha, that not even the israelites liked belong in the Bible? An individual who believes that they need enough good boy points to get into heaven when the Bible literally says you are saved by faith in Christ alone? An individual who will literally loses their shit over "holy artifacts" like some sort of idolatrous pagan? Literally who cares, they're objects.

    Why does the Catholic Church venerate objects? Why do they spend millions on giant cathedrals rather than helping the poor? Why does the pope need a gay ass israeliteel encrusted tiara? What a fricking disaster of a Church. Jesus wasn't joking around when he warned about false prophets; the Catholic Church is this incarnate. How badly can you corrupt the teachings of the Bible? Papal Infallibility? Are you fricking kidding me? What a joke, what an absolute joke.

    Sola Fide
    Sola Gratia
    Sola Scriptura

    That's all you need. I'm not praying to a dead saint or asking some child molesting priest to forgive my sins for me. The more boundaries you put between you and god, the less connected you are to him. The only path to salvation is to accept the love teachings of Jesus Christ our lord and savior. How will Pope Francis stand on Judgement Day knowing that he led an organization that sentenced billions to the firey inferno?

    I can't imagine it'll be pretty.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      +Solus Christus
      +Soli Deo Gloria

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      may I remind you that you protestants are the cause of every single heresy after the Renaissance?

      When they speak of bad Christian stereotype, they speak of you

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Mexican Day of the Dead is a Protestant invention? The split of the German and Dutch Roman branches after Vatican I was caused by Protestants?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He probably believes Vatican 2 was Protestant
          >Everything I don't like is Martin Luther

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you dont have to submit to either the doctrine or authority of Joel Osteen to be "protestant" though.
        If you dont agree with his church you just... dont go/dont support it.

        I mean, the pope acknowledges the spiritual authority of all sorts of heretics anyways. Im glad I dont have a pope except the Father in Heaven.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Mexican Day of the Dead is a Protestant invention? The split of the German and Dutch Roman branches after Vatican I was caused by Protestants?

          None of those are heresies
          Heresies are your Prosperity, Mormon, South Baptist, Pentecost, Anglican, Televangelists, and so on and so forth. Every single cult that uses the cross for legitimacy is protestant by default. Only Apostolic succession grants recognition in the Catholic and Orthodoxy

          The church has problems. It had problems since Judas but Jesus never said anyone should leave.

          He said to know a tree by its fruits. And the fruits of Protestantism is worse than what it is criticizing

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But Protestantism isnt somehow a "fruit" of the Catholic Church okay got it lol
            You are legitimately crazy man. Everything you believe is just
            >my side is right because it's my side and it's right

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Catholic Church recognizes
            Scripture
            Tradition
            Magisterium
            You protestants went for le Sola Fide which is exactly how the Early Church Heresies came to be.
            Heresies that were cut down by constant public debates and councils.
            Heresies that came back up because of YOU

            >Lutheranism in Sweden is not a heresy
            >Lutheranism in Germany however is a heresy
            The Cathodox view on Apostolic succession is a legitimate cope. 90% of all Catholic bishops which are in office right now are traced back to the same ancestor (Scipione Rebiba 16th century) and not ANY further. The catholic view on the apostolic succession is a modern cope, for if the succession would have been of relevance to the early church the Bishops would have been able to trace their heritage further back than the late Renaissance Italy.

            >90% of all Catholic bishops which are in office right now are traced back to the same ancestor
            FALSE
            They managed to track a completely unbroken line of succession that extends all the way to 300AD. Older evidences may or may not be recovered

            In fact, Clement of Rome himself (94AD) wrote about how the apostles "appointed" successors on their communities

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And by recognize scripture we mean that we don't believe it and we don't believe it has any authority over us

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sola fide has nothing to do with authority but with justification. Sola scriptura answers the question of where the authority of the church originates.

            It is precisely because you fricks threw away the Magisterium that any single frick can now use the scripture for their own benefit.
            And because you fricks threw away the Tradition, you cannot take the scriptures within context of their time

            The most important people of the Church isn't the Pope or the bishops.
            It's the Librarians at the Vatican archives who ensures that every single line is read in its original language, understood within its cultural context, and debated within its theological structure

            We have the
            Chalcedonians
            Arians
            Collyridians
            Ebionites
            Marcionites
            Monophysities
            Nazarenes
            Saballians

            These are the heresies that, just like you, went for Sola Scriptura. They read it, interpreted it, and who gets to say that they are wrong?

            Oh right, you need a magisterium for that A magisterium that you rejected

            Find me one Catholic bishop who does not trace back to Scipione Rebiba:
            https://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/lll.html

            d’Estouteville lines (1440's)
            Ravizza line (1479)

            De Bovet line (1745) and Von Bodman line (1686) aren't traced to Rebiba

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >who gets to say that they are wrong?
            The Bible. Its not a hard book, man.
            Its really* obvious when someone is misconstruing it, PROVIDED you are a reader of it.
            It blows my mind that people call themselves "Christian" without reading the Bible DAILY.

            Anyways, you reject the premise of Christianity, so nothing will ever get through to you. Wasted time responding to you, but I suppose that's all Satan can do to someone once theyre justified and saved from hell. Waste their time.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They had the Bible too!
            Everyone of you had the Bible and yet, you have over 200 denominations

            Can we have 200 different truths?

            >hOlY sPiRit wILl gUiDe mE
            Yeah, guided to eat shit.
            Do not test the Lord and return to the Church.
            You are not protected there

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, let me make it extremely clear.

            No one "gets heresies from the Bible"
            it's not even possible.

            What happens, EVERY time, is that someone or some group STARTS OUT with preconceived beliefs and then, because the Bible/Christianity is popular, find any and all verses they can misconstrue that on a surface level and without context APPEAR to support a preconceived belief.

            Example: Jesus Christ said beware of them that desire to go about in long clothing/robes/"stoles"
            You have the PRECONCEIVED notion that clergy should wear fancy and elaborate outfits, so you either ignore the scripture, or you find verses out of context to support your heresy.
            This is literally how every "heresy from the Bible" comes about.
            The Roman Catholic Church was built on the PRECONCEIVED belief system of Late Roman Paganism; TENS of millions were forced* to convert, even pagan clergy found homes in church authority. Did people give up all their pagan beliefs? NO! They found Bible verses to twist out of context to support them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            False
            All of us have heretic interpretation because each one of us are lacking in the correct information.
            In order to have enough information, everyone must join together and debate it all. Continuously sifting through the grain and getting rid of the tares

            Which is the role of the Magisterium
            Magisterium that you rejected and now surprised that you are making bread with tares in it. Tares that are poisonous

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The magisterium, modern day

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And that is correct
            The Church is allowed to bless individuals, regardless of who they are and what they believe in.
            But their gay union will always be rejected

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            5 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

            2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.

            3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,

            4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

            5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

            6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

            7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

            9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

            10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.

            11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

            12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

            13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            a heresy means something that you divide over.
            having small differences in interpretation is not heresy,

            but say, how ought liturgy to be done (how should clergy dress?) veers into an issue of heresy; especially with the explicit command to "beware" coming from Christ.

            >Magisterium that you rejected and now surprised that you are making bread with tares in it. Tares that are poisonous
            do you even know what you're typing?
            this is what I mean; you STARTED by thinking quoting that parable would sound cool; so you just ignored what the parable actually meant.
            The Kingdom of Heaven WILL have tares in it.
            There is no church which wouldnt have tares b/c even the Kingdom of Heaven will have tares which must be gathered apart at the end of the world.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus' was betrayed by his own people. Both by Judas, and the apostles who abandoned and denied him

            Still, he did not say that everyone should just split up and do whatever they want. He told them to hold steadfast and stay together because acting as individuals make one very vulnerable. Each one is needed to make up for the shortcomings of another.

            The Reformation did not throw away the tradition. It only got rid of the tradition which is in direct opposition to the scripture.

            Frick the Magisterium. Sell your indulgences. Affirm your Mexican day of the dead. But the church does not do these things.

            >And because you fricks threw away the Tradition, you cannot take the scriptures within context of their time
            The truth of the word of god does not change with time. This bullshit about context is what makes your Roman bishop invite troony hookers into the Vatican.

            >The most important people of the Church isn't the Pope or the bishops.
            >It's the Librarians at the Vatican archives who ensures that every single line is read in its original language, understood within its cultural context, and debated within its theological structure
            Complete ignorance on how scientific processing and theological work is done. The most important people in the church are those who gather in the name of Christ.

            >Chalcedonians
            The fact that you are mentioning the undoubtably Ecumenical council of Chalcedon alongside actual heresies makes me think that you don't know what you are talking about.

            And even if certain bishops that are currently alive can trace back their succession to the 13th century, there is NO evidence that the evidence that the succession is unbroken down to the Apostles. Do you know why there is no evidence going back to the early chruch? Because nobody cared!

            Direct opposition to the scripture my fricking arse!
            Your own Martin Luther got rid of 7 books in the New Testament simply because it calls him out. Purgatory did not come from nowhere. In fact, it was validated in the gospel of Macabees that he removed.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're right.
            He just called them Apocrypha and denied their validity, and acted as if he was now the Magisterium.

            Eat shit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            7. But for the sake of greater exactness I add this also, writing under obligation, as it were. There are other books besides these, indeed not received as canonical but having been appointed by our fathers to be read to those just approaching and wishing to be instructed in the word of godliness: Wisdom of Solomon, Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobit, and that which is called the Teaching of the Apostles, and the Shepherd. But the former, my brethren, are included in the Canon, the latter being merely read; nor is there any place a mention of secret writings. But such are the invention of heretics, who indeed write them whenever they wish, bestowing upon them their approval, and assigning to them a date, that so, using them as if they were ancient writings, they find a means by which to lead astray the simple-minded.

            St. Athanasius

            Luther has repeated the stance of St. Athanasius and denied the existence of a "second canon"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They aren’t scripture. The church fathers agreed they aren’t scripture. There wasn’t a consensus that the apocrypha is scripture all these figures agree it wasn’t scripture. Luther took a conservative position on the canon and the papacy innovated as a reaction to the reformers canon. St. Melito
            Origen
            St. Cyril if Jerusalem
            St. Athanasius
            Synod of Laodicea
            St. Gregory Nazianzus
            Amphilochius of Iconium
            St. Hilary of Poitiers
            Rufinius of Aquileia
            Jerome
            Cardinal Ximenes of Spain
            Cardinal Cajetan

            Bryennios list (2th cent)
            - Joseph’s „Hypomnestikon" (4-5th cent),
            - author of the "Dialogue of Timothy and Aquila" (5-6th cent),
            - Ps-Athanasius (6th cent), (1/2)
            Anastasius the Sinaite (7th cent),
            - John Damascus (7-8th cent)
            - Nicephorus I (8-9th cent),
            - Peter the Venerable (1092–1156),
            - John of Salisbury (1120–1180),
            - Hugh of Saint-Cher (1200–1263),
            - William of Ockham (1287– 1347),
            - Nicholas of Lyra (1270–1349),

            The canon was an open issue. It hadn’t been set at the time of Luther. Rome didn’t care to resolve the canon yet. It was a popular topic and source of unease for the people. So Luther did something about it and he took the conservative approach to it. For the person who claims to care about historical context of the Bible, you certainly don’t care about it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cool. Thanks
            Now that it was addressed by actual experts, can you go to the church now?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > Now that it was addressed by actual experts
            Luther and all the people I just listed?
            > can you go to the church now?
            Yes I go to the Lutheran church with the correct canon.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nice man! What church? SELK (Germany) here!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            do you sing auslander raus?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Missouri synod.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            4. There are, then, of the Old Testament, twenty-two books in number; for, as I have heard, it is handed down that this is the number of the letters among the Hebrews; their respective order and names being as follows. The first is Genesis, then Exodus, next Leviticus, after that Numbers, and then Deuteronomy. Following these there is Joshua the son of Nun, then Judges, then Ruth. And again, after these four books of Kings, the first and second 1 being reckoned as one book, and so likewise the third and fourth 2 as one book. And again, the first and second of the Chronicles are reckoned as one book. Again Ezra, the first and second 3 are similarly one book. After these there is the book of Psalms, then the Proverbs, next Ecclesiastes, and the Song of Songs. Job follows, then the Prophets, the Twelve [minor prophets] being reckoned as one book. Then Isaiah, one book, then Jeremiah with Baruch, Lamentations and the Epistle, one book; afterwards Ezekiel and Daniel, each one book. Thus far constitutes the Old Testament.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            5. Again, it is not tedious to speak of the books of the New Testament. These are: the four Gospels, according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. After these, The Acts of the Apostles, and the seven epistles called Catholic: of James, one; of Peter, two, of John, three; after these, one of Jude. In addition, there are fourteen epistles of Paul the apostle, written in this order: the first, to the Romans; then, two to the Corinthians; after these, to the Galatians; next, to the Ephesians, then, to the Philippians; then, to the Colossians; after these, two of the Thessalonians; and that to the Hebrews; and again, two to Timothy; one to Titus; and lastly, that to Philemon. And besides, the Revelation of John.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            6. These are the fountains of salvation, that he who thirsts may be satisfied with the living words they contain. In these alone the teaching of godliness is proclaimed. Let no one add to these; let nothing be taken away from them. For concerning these the Lord put to shame the Sadducees, and said, Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures. And he reproved the israelites, saying, Search the Scriptures, for these are they that testify of me.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            7. But for the sake of greater exactness I add this also, writing under obligation, as it were. There are other books besides these, indeed not received as canonical but having been appointed by our fathers to be read to those just approaching and wishing to be instructed in the word of godliness: Wisdom of Solomon, Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobit, and that which is called the Teaching of the Apostles, and the Shepherd. But the former, my brethren, are included in the Canon, the latter being merely read; nor is there any place a mention of secret writings. But such are the invention of heretics, who indeed write them whenever they wish, bestowing upon them their approval, and assigning to them a date, that so, using them as if they were ancient writings, they find a means by which to lead astray the simple-minded.

            St. Athanasius

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            By what basis are you not twisting the Bible? Are you the infallible interpreter?Also, if wearing robes and stoles sends you to hell you've disproven your own sola fide and sola fide is wrong.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Also, if wearing robes and stoles sends you to hell
            AGAIN with PRECONCEPTION
            I never said it "sent you to hell" and it wasn't part of my argument.
            But you just ASSUMED I meant that.
            Prideful. Arrogant. UTTERLY unwilling to hear ANYTHING or anyone for what they are plainly* saying; least of all the Bible.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Was God sinning when God told the Levitical priests to wear what they did? Yes or no?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They didnt wear long robes.
            The priests wore a coat(tunic) with breeches. Specifically said "not to cause sweat."
            The High Priest* wore a robe.
            Which was the one person who specifically pictured Christ in his kingly glory.
            Again, wearing a robe isnt a sin. Kings wore robes. A robe is a symbol of either great riches or power. Like a toga.
            But Jesus said "beware them that desire* to go about in robes"
            i.e. clergy should dress modestly; if the princes of the gentiles desire to rule over each other; and robes are a symbol of power; should this manner of dress be so amongst the church?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So why should a king get power but not a member of the clergy?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because Jesus said so.
            >But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
            >But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
            >And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:
            >Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

            We WAIT for the glory to come, not any earthly glory.
            Christ was a poor carpenter on this earth; but when we see him in his Heavenly glory, of course he is arrayed in what could only be described as the most kingly robes ever seen. And each of us shall be arrayed similarly.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is a duality in role. The clergy serves the flock and puts the flock first like a father puts his family first yet the father is authority. This is also speaking about how heaven will work and how there will be balance. God can give you billions in this life but you'd get less in the next.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I listen to actions. For example, people say the Bible is against holy relics. Moses serpent and Elisha's bones says otherwise. People say you can't make statues in holy places according to the Bible but in that same Bible God keeps commanding people to make statues and images.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you doing things God didn't command you to?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If God allowed it and commanded it in the past, God must have wanted it. I'm just being logical. God shouldn't have put those things in the Bible if He didn't want us to use them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you going to make ten thousand scale models of the Ark of the Covenant and put them in each Catholic Church?
            No?
            So you're coming up with new ideas God didn't command.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Moses serpent
            Do you even know what happened to that shit?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            of course he doesn't.
            It's Cathodrone #18797473

            Sooner or later though we'll be burning at the stake though. Im not sure what we even have to gain on this website.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Reformation did not throw away the tradition. It only got rid of the tradition which is in direct opposition to the scripture.

            Frick the Magisterium. Sell your indulgences. Affirm your Mexican day of the dead. But the church does not do these things.

            >And because you fricks threw away the Tradition, you cannot take the scriptures within context of their time
            The truth of the word of god does not change with time. This bullshit about context is what makes your Roman bishop invite troony hookers into the Vatican.

            >The most important people of the Church isn't the Pope or the bishops.
            >It's the Librarians at the Vatican archives who ensures that every single line is read in its original language, understood within its cultural context, and debated within its theological structure
            Complete ignorance on how scientific processing and theological work is done. The most important people in the church are those who gather in the name of Christ.

            >Chalcedonians
            The fact that you are mentioning the undoubtably Ecumenical council of Chalcedon alongside actual heresies makes me think that you don't know what you are talking about.

            And even if certain bishops that are currently alive can trace back their succession to the 13th century, there is NO evidence that the evidence that the succession is unbroken down to the Apostles. Do you know why there is no evidence going back to the early chruch? Because nobody cared!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sola fide has nothing to do with authority but with justification. Sola scriptura answers the question of where the authority of the church originates.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Find me one Catholic bishop who does not trace back to Scipione Rebiba:
            https://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/lll.html

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Lutheranism in Sweden is not a heresy
            >Lutheranism in Germany however is a heresy
            The Cathodox view on Apostolic succession is a legitimate cope. 90% of all Catholic bishops which are in office right now are traced back to the same ancestor (Scipione Rebiba 16th century) and not ANY further. The catholic view on the apostolic succession is a modern cope, for if the succession would have been of relevance to the early church the Bishops would have been able to trace their heritage further back than the late Renaissance Italy.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >only man-made succession rules determine the body of god

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Also Judas a member of the church? Absolutely not true, you are a clueless poster!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Judas has been part of the Church
            Peter was the Pope and he denied Jesus 3x
            Every apostle and member flee when their master needed them the most

            All except John, Mary, and Mary Magdalene were with him on his final moment
            Jesus had 1000 followers. That's easily .3% of the first Church is holy. But he never told anyone to leave. He said to stay on the cross and wait for his return.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You don't even know what the church is. The church is the body of Christ on earth and was founded on Pentecost.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >may I remind you that you protestants are the cause of every single heresy after the Renaissance?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >believes the pope can perform miracles
      Dishonest and stopped reading there. i’ll pray for you.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The Vatican then concluded that Simon-Pierre's healing was indeed a miracle. Having one verified miracle, Pope John Paul II was beatified, the first step to being canonized, or declared a saint.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've read the Bible and I don't get faith alone when reading it. It seems like a meme. I've also read about Elisha's bones healing people and that was like the relics and that God is God of the living and not of the dead.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bro… read Romans. It can’t be more clear that it’s faith alone

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Gospels, especially Matthew, say otherwise.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why can't a pope perform miracles? Nuns and monks can perform miracles too. You say they're just objects but guess what? These objects actually do things. God gives them the power. If we were wrong, we wouldn't see as many miracles and apparitions as we do. You don't see them. Our relics actually produce healing.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did you ever notice that the eskimos have more words for snow than americans?
    Andcient Greek is a lot like that. There are more words for worship and even respect than what you are used to because it is a more philosophically rich and subtle civilization than ours.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's true.
    As far as things go she played her part and that's all that needs to be recognized of her.
    But, instead she put on a pedestal.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christians also want other gods to worship. This is why they have venerated saints and fanfic angels.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    newbie here. I am interested in familiarizing myself with the big 3 religions (Jud., Christ, Islam) so I can better understand and debate theology
    What are the three purest texts to read in English? But also, what are the three texts that are used today, if theres a different one. Ive never touched a Quran so I don't know anything about all that

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is from actual Catholic clergy that studied it.

    "Those that say co-redemptrix means that she is adding to or cooperating with our redemption with Christ would be the wrong interpretation of it and it needs to be corrected but to say that our Lady by her free will, her free choice, brought about God and God alone has brought to us redemption is to say the orthodox and correct teaching"

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Monotheism is unnatural and unfulfilling. That's why Christians are so attracted to venerating Mary and the saints and have guardian angels. Look at how obsessed medieval Arabs were with Jinns too.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think that as long as you aid your fellow in need you are in good terms with God, and so, the veneration of Virgin Mary, the non recognition of the Pope, or any other schism matters that much at the end of the day.
    After all, when you aid to your next ones in need, you are already preaching Jesus words to they and his glory.
    t.sudaca raised on latin american catholicism, not that much of a practitioner though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I think that as long as you aid your fellow in need you are in good terms with God
      Have fun in Hell.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why though?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry bro, you made that anon mad, you're gonna burn now

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            :O

            Because you think that Christianity is "just be nice".

            Eh, everything more or less leds up to live as to how Jesus told us, ain't it?
            I'm willing to read more about christianity if you want to share some links tbh.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because you think that Christianity is "just be nice".

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich said an angel forced a demon to put a mother goddess in Egypt. Because its a good thing, like a preview of Mary.

    Mommy! I belong to you!

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A latrine is worth more than her heart.

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