There are no good arguments for atheism, literally not even one.

There are no good arguments for atheism, literally not even one. It is a position of intellectual contempt and nothing more

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think you're being a little disingenuous. You don't even dislike atheists in particular, you just dislike everyone who doesn't believe in your religion.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's just disingenuous atheism vs theism doesn't single out a single religion. If you want to engage in a good faith discussion you can present the best argument for atheism but as we all know there are no good ones

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That's just disingenuous atheism vs theism doesn't single out a single religion.
        But my point is that what you actually care about is christians vs nonchristians, not theism vs atheism.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Schizoidberg

          That's because most religions don't really care about what other people believe and don't proselytize. But most atheists in Muslim countries (if you talk to them privately) are going to mostly talk about Islam. It's almost as if most people that interact with religion, interact with the religion they grew up in or around.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    While I personally agree, I don't think using the biggest idiot in the world as a punching bag is the best defense.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Radiochan

    the only argument that's necessary is "I don't believe in God"
    there, that's it, that's the only one that's necessary

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not an argument.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Radiochan

        why?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bqecause you didn't present an argument. You just stated your belief without explaining why you believe it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why would I believe something with no evidence

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why would I believe something with no evidence
            The Universe, laws of physics and mathematics, living cells and so on can all be viewed as evidence unless you have a further belief that something material can come from nothing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You believe a israelite in the sky came from nothing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You believe a israelite in the sky came from nothing.
            The sky is part of the material real and has anything to do with my argument . Try again.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dodges the question of where the magic israelite came from

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dodges the question of where the magic israelite came from

            God is eternal and uncreated. you don't understand what you're talking about

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So you agree something can exist that comes from nothing which undermines your whole argument.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            God is not material though

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Where did the magic israelite come from anon. Answer in the next post or it'll be taken as admission the whole thing is bullshit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            your question is inherently nonsensical. He didn't "come from" anywhere, He always existed.
            Read the Bible if you're going to argue against it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but what do you need a god for then? If a god can just exist without coming from anywhere, why can't the world? What's the point of the god?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            because the universe, as it is material, adheres to spacetime rules, including chronology. this implies a beginning, as it's impossible for us to live after an "infinite" amount of time. and we can observe this in the evidence for the Big Bang Theory and the apparent age of the universe.
            God is not bound by time. God is not material. God is that from which reality emanated, the Creator of the universe, and is thus not bound by its rules.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Schizoidberg

            A beginning does not mean God. A beginning means a beginning. Calling it "God" is just a way of filling in the blanks. The honest answer is "I don't know."

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you can make up special rules for a god, why not for the universe as a whole? Why would it have to be some kind of god, a conscious creator rather than a container for which different rules apply?

            Not to mention that your idea of god seems very abstract and detached from actual scripture. How exactly do you tie this abstract idea of god that you have to the abrahamic tradition, which we can track throughout history, for which we can tell when and how people came up with it, its syncretic composition from pre-existing beliefs, etc.?

            Clearly your idea of god is not an angry man in the literal sky who demands worship.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >He always existed.

            Bullshit. This is the best you slippery fricks can do? Absolutely pathetic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >hasn't heard the transcendental argument before
            you need to be 18+ to post here

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the magic israelite wasn't created by anything it just always existed, somehow
            >not pathetic cope to doge duck and swerve the question

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i really hope you're just trolling, because this is getting embarassing at this point.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, it must be embarrassing to use "you believe something came from nothing" as an attack line, only to have utterly pathetic cope about how your god didn't come from anywhere (ie nothing).

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yes, it must be embarrassing to use "you believe something came from nothing
            That is literally the atheist belief for the Big Bang. God is immaterial. Before getting to 'who made God' arguments at least try to answer who made the big bang.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We asked who made the magic israelite first. Are you admitting you don't know?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yet again applying material concepts to the immaterial.
            I'm sorry but you are too stupid to have a debate with. This is going nowhere.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            God has audible footsteps in the garden of Eden.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Schizoidberg

            And therefore not real.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Special pleading.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Schizoidberg

            I can see material. I can't see gods. Done.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I can see material. I can't see gods. Done.
            No one ever said you can 'see God's'. That is a strawman argument. You see the creators handiwork in the material realm not the creator.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How does that contradict atheism? They believe there is no god, therefore they're atheists.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I believe in God, therefore God exists.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Illogical.
            You believe in God, therefore you're a theist.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Believing things without proof is stupid and a waste of time and energy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So, like, do you want to know why I don't believe in a God?
        I could give you a biographical account, I was raised by atheists parents, never got told stories about how it was true that a man walked on water 2000 years ago, etc

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sure. I just want to hear your argument for god

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There aren't good arguments for either theism or atheism. It's why arguments just essentially boil down to
      Burden of Proof style arguments. Which neither has so both can claim victory based on whoever asks the question first.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ackshully ur tecnikly agnostic hurr
        >a·the·ist /ˈāTHēəst/
        noun
        a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods
        >disbelieves or lacks
        >or lacks
        Kys ffs

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Plenty of good arguments from atheism if you don't strip God of all the properties normally attached to the most popular Definitions of God like the Christian or the Muslim one.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can't disprove a god, even in principle. This is so silly.
    God is unfalsifiable, that's the point.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you all so obsessed with refuting atheism?
    Most secular people are not atheist. They just don’t believe in any religions.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are there surveys as to this point? Like have they surveyed "Nones" about their beliefs concerning divinity?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Give me a good argument that dead israelites spring to life again and fly around on magic clouds.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I literally just watched this video just before coming here…

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got one, God is made up.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Schizoidberg

    Don't need evidence to make no assertions (negation of an assertion is not an assertion)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Atheism is an assertion

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >For us citizens of the Western world, religion is finished. In our urban souls what was once true religiosity has long since been intellectualized to "problematics." The Church reached its fulfillment at the Council of Trent. Puritanism has turned into capitalism, and Pietism is now socialism. The Anglo-American sects represent merely the nervous businessman’s need for theological pastimes. There is no more repulsive spectacle than the attempted of certain Protestant groups to revivify the cadaver of religion by smearing it with bolshevist offal. The same thing has been tried with occultism and theosophy. And nothing is more deceptive than the hope that the future religion of Russian can stimulate a revival of religion in the West. There should no longer be any misunderstanding: with its hatred of state, science, and art, Russian nihilism is also directed against Rome and Wittenberg, whose spirit is present in all forms of Western culture and thus an integral part of what this nihilism aims to destroy. Russia will push this development aside and link up once again, by way of Byzantium, directly with Jerusalem.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Atheism" isn't an argument, it's strictly a lack-of argument. For some reason a lot of people struggle to wrap their heads around this idea

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s just gay, that’s all.
    Humans are not supposed to be super rational beings of subjectivity. We have imaginations and we need a spiritual outlet.
    Look how creatively bankrupt, bored and miserable we have become with the onset of atheism. Look how ugly and sterile the things we surround ourselves with have become.
    Atheism is stifling.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >You owe me explanations
    Watch out mfers, the Op is the owner of reality.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well the problem is the meaning of "atheism" depends on the meaning of "theos".
    By the definition...
    >triomni creator of all things in spacetime
    ...the problem of evil precludes the existence of such a being.

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