This is the second time this has happened to me.

This is the second time this has happened to me.
Order a book from Amazon, flip to the back aaaaand it's a print-on-demand. The print is crisp and the paper is good quality, so I don't really mind, but am I being scammed? Has this happened to anyone else?

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    They've been doing that more lately. Don't order Gaddis - A Frolic of His Own through them, the cover is pixelated and looks like shit, surprised they matched the original font for the text though.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      OP here. I have a legit Scribner printing of Frolic, also ordered through Amazon, and the paper quality is absolutely abysmal. I'm curious as to what kind of agreement Amazon has with these publishers, which allows them to do this.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, you're being scammed. Amazon has such a solid grip on the market it can afford to charge what is realistically something like 1000-2000% markup because they know people will buy it and not look elsewhere. Their only overhead is the pdf on a server somewhere.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      If they do that the least they should do is note it's POD and lower the price appropriately.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, but I know abebooks specifically includes toggles so you can exclude all this garbage. A local auction site has the same thing. It’s too easy and profitable to flood these services with titles that are print on demand from whatever crappy mass producer. Consider not shopping from Amazon. Half their stock is some chinese dropship bullshit or fake products.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      From Wiki: "AbeBooks has been a subsidiary of Amazon since 2008.[2]"

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        So far they don't sell POD.

        What's the problem with it?
        I wish I could get some niche books printed out that I have pdfs of

        It means if you order something worth $100, Scamazon will send you a $5 copy they made themselves, instead of just advertising the POD copy for $5.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >something worth $100
          >$5 copy they made themselves
          I don't get it, what is it that you expect to pay for? The time/place the book was published? Do you see it as a future investment? Why not just download it for free and print it yourself?

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the problem with it?
    I wish I could get some niche books printed out that I have pdfs of

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Check the publisher. If it is CreateSpace Independent publishing or some shit avoid it. Don’t be buying weird stuff

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Publishers in both cases are official, and sold directly by Amazon. I never buy from third-party sellers unless necessary. The first time this happened with Bengali Nights, the publisher being the University of Chicago, I assumed they had some sort of agreement with Amazon to lower costs on their end. But this time it's Verso so I'm wondering wtf is going on.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I recently ordered two Penguin books and they have correct cover and format but are POD versions. I live in Central Europe and it never happened before

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks for the info anon
    The price of the book is quite high so I'm surprised they'd do this

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm talking to an Amazon pajeet rn hopefully i can receive some sort of recompense

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    More and more publishers are using Amazon and Ingram POD for the depths of their backlists. Especially for international orders. I even got one from Harvard University Press. (Ordered directly from the publisher, not amazon, shipped to eu)

    Its a bit scammy but I don't see this as altogether bad though. Because the paper quality is actually very good. These POD books have smooth white or cream paper, while the majority of traditional offset prints now have shitty brown rough paper.

    Binding and printing quality is not great on the other hand. But not terrible either.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's the thing, I would be angry if the print quality was shitty, but it's really not.
      Still doesn't feel great paying $30 for an "amazon knockoff"

  8. 4 months ago
    sage

    POD-Books are the reason why i buy used because its an original 99% of the time rather than a pod

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >am I being scammed? Has this happened to anyone else?
    You're not being scammed, you're just moronic. You want an edition that's not print-on-demand? Learn about the available editions and buy from the publisher you choose.
    If you buy the cheapest crap that you find on the first page, you'll get this.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Again, frickhead, I'm not purchasing copies that are obviously print-on-demand. The product is listed as "Publisher: Verso" and the seller is Amazon themselves. They're also not cheap they're full MSRP, Amazon is just engaged in some underhanded chicanery.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, I just checked it myself.
        >I'm not purchasing copies that are obviously print-on-demand.
        How would I know that? Most people here are drooling morons.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Forget what I said. I just checked Eliade's and it's said to be published by University of Chicago Press.
      So it is a bit of a scam, yes.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Update: Amazon pajeet gave me a refund on the Finkelstein, and I was also able to squeeze him for a refund on the Bengal Nights/It Does Not Die set that I ordered 6 months prior. I get to keep the books as well.
    Thanks for the gold kind stranger!

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It has definitely happened to me before and I hate it. I don’t like the paper and print quality and the paperback cover material is subpar. If anyone knows how to determine whether an Amazon listing is POD, I’d like to know. It feels shitty when you spend $80 on three books and they all show up POD.

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I tried ordering a book from amazon and they threw it in a giant box, so by the time it got to me it had jostled so much there were multiple dents and rips in it
    then I asked for a refund and reordered it, only for the same thing to happen again

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      a box is generous, now they just chuck it into a bag

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The print ain’t always crisp. Some “reprints” look like poorly scanned bootlegs.

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I only buy books either new or secondhand from an actual In Real Life store.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just buy from a big, reputable publisher like Penguin, Oxford, Everyman’s, New Directions, NYRB, Modern Library, Library of America, Grove Press, Dalkey. If a book isn’t published by one of them, it’s rubbish

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have never had this issue before and I’ve ordered hundreds of books off of Amazon

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >~~*Finkelstein*~~

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