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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >execute random commands
    >get random results

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i-it's the user's fault!
      No other operating system behaves like this. Enjoy your toy os.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No other operating system behaves like this.
        Like what? In other operating systems, commands don't do what their documentation explicitly says they do? Thank God for GNU/Linux then.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You don’t expose this stuff to the end user.
          >but muh root user
          Server OS

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You don’t expose this stuff to the end user.
            There's a very simple solution here. Don't run random commands you don't understand. Better yet, just don't open the terminal ever for any reason.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Tell computer to do something
          >Does it
          >"You just dont get it, its the computers fault"

          BSD command line tools warn you before doing stuff like that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            BDSM command line tools encourage you to do stuff like that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Tell computer to do something
        >Does it
        >"You just dont get it, its the computers fault"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Tells your computer to delete temp files
          >it deletes home directory which is clearly not a temp directory
          >morons defend this
          I use Linux and I can say this is a blatant mislabel and should be changed. A person shouldn't have to double check the man page to make sure the command labeled 'delete temp files' only deletes temp files.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I bet most people defending it saying "rtfm" haven't read a single man page

            dumb morons, see

            >was caused by a distro
            wrong
            https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/tmpfiles.d/home.conf

            >when they shouldn't have
            >the distro maintainers fricked up
            wrong
            https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd-tmpfiles.html
            >Historically, it was designed to manage volatile and temporary files, as the name suggests, but it provides generic file management functionality and can be used to manage any kind of files.

            >the user fricked up
            >This is a non issue
            correct

            and

            >The command literally read as "purge the temp files"
            wrong
            >If this option is passed, all files and directories marked for *creation* by the tmpfiles.d/ files specified on the command line will be deleted. Specifically, this acts on all files and directories marked with f, F, d, D, v, q, Q, p, L, c, b, C, w, e.
            >The primary usecase for this option is to automatically remove files and directories that originally have been created on behalf of an installed packaged at package removal time.
            >*Warning*! This is is usually not the command you want! In most cases --remove is what you are looking for.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you check every single man page and .conf file after every update?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >get random results
      The results aren't random, they are exactly as documented.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what's the use case for your home directory?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's where i store my ebussy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      e-girls

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how many of them can you fit in your /home? You must protect them since systemd will try to purge them

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh no!
          Not the system======D

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for me it was updates randomly breaking shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Let me guess, krashde?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sudo apt install linux-lts
      sudo pacman -S linux-lts
      enjoy

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When will arch users stop being so fricking elitist?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      make sure you never admit mistake, just edit wiki 1 year later

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When we get pussy

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >recursive deletes your home folder
    >nothing personal kid

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    arch was made to gatekeep ubuntu normies so autists could keep larping as le epic hackers. that's it. that's literally its only purpose

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If ubuntu was fast I would agree with you. It's slow.
      I could make ubuntu run fast by stripping it of everything ubuntu in it, and it would become what I use now on arch.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who is "noone"?
    also lmao at the 49 downcummies that was probably the only reasonable post in the whole thread

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ur fricking gay op
    top 500 fortunes all use loonix for servers
    and now bc of you im gonna have to frick a nigress
    you autists are detrimental to the white race
    if itr wasnt for your moronic shit id frick a white girl

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >top 500 fortunes all use loonix for servers
      >for servers
      >servers
      They aren't using it as Windows/macOS desktop replacements.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i do.
        sample size of 1 therefore you are wrong.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are a fortune 500 company?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What people fail to mention is that this was caused by a distro using tmpfiles to create the users home directory when they shouldn't have. Its documented what the command run would do and the distro maintainers fricked up along with the user.

    This is a non issue on distros that aren't moronic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a distro
      I'm done with this jargon. It's not a "distro." It's an operating system. Call it that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm done
        Don't let the door hit your ass

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But I'm a homosexual and I would love my ass to be slammed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >was caused by a distro
      wrong
      https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/tmpfiles.d/home.conf

      >when they shouldn't have
      >the distro maintainers fricked up
      wrong
      https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd-tmpfiles.html
      >Historically, it was designed to manage volatile and temporary files, as the name suggests, but it provides generic file management functionality and can be used to manage any kind of files.

      >the user fricked up
      >This is a non issue
      correct

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The command literally read as "purge the temp files"
        wrong
        >If this option is passed, all files and directories marked for *creation* by the tmpfiles.d/ files specified on the command line will be deleted. Specifically, this acts on all files and directories marked with f, F, d, D, v, q, Q, p, L, c, b, C, w, e.
        >The primary usecase for this option is to automatically remove files and directories that originally have been created on behalf of an installed packaged at package removal time.
        >*Warning*! This is is usually not the command you want! In most cases --remove is what you are looking for.

        So systemd uses "tmpfiles" to manage something that's not temporary files.
        Great design, worthy of Microsoft indeed.
        Totally user's fault to think that "tmpfiles" means NOT TEMP FILES.

        What kind of configuration leads to the home dir being recognized as a temp directory?

        See

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          see

          >was caused by a distro
          wrong
          https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/tmpfiles.d/home.conf

          >when they shouldn't have
          >the distro maintainers fricked up
          wrong
          https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd-tmpfiles.html
          >Historically, it was designed to manage volatile and temporary files, as the name suggests, but it provides generic file management functionality and can be used to manage any kind of files.

          >the user fricked up
          >This is a non issue
          correct

          >Historically, it was designed to manage volatile and temporary files, as the name suggests, but it provides generic file management functionality and can be used to manage any kind of files.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >we changed the functionality of tmpfiles instead of making another tool specifically for it since we only have 5612416 tools already under systemd so 5612417 would be too much
            >oh and it's users' fault for not knowing this esoteric piece of knowledge

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            correct

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            sabotage

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            not really, just rtfm next time lil bro

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he does have a point but it's moot given that it's typical for systemd to have paragraphs and paragraphs of documentation that explain nothing and quickly become outdated when systemd expands tools well beyond their original scope with no regards to the intentions of the tool, how the tool is used, or how people are interpreting how to use them. it was completely asinine to make /home a directory managed by tmpfiles in the first place
        >Useful for purge/factory reset patterns.
        :^)

        , it was designed to manage volatile and temporary files, as the name suggests, but it provides generic file management functionality and can be used to manage any kind of files.

        >The command literally read as "purge the temp files"
        wrong
        >If this option is passed, all files and directories marked for *creation* by the tmpfiles.d/ files specified on the command line will be deleted. Specifically, this acts on all files and directories marked with f, F, d, D, v, q, Q, p, L, c, b, C, w, e.
        >The primary usecase for this option is to automatically remove files and directories that originally have been created on behalf of an installed packaged at package removal time.
        >*Warning*! This is is usually not the command you want! In most cases --remove is what you are looking for.

        >>*Warning*! This is is usually not the command you want! In most cases --remove is what you are looking for.
        these warnings were only added after this bug was reported, the original documentation for the --purge flag was simply:
        >If this option is passed, all files and directories created by a tmpfiles.d/ entry will be deleted.
        with no mention that tmpfiles was being used to manage non-volatile directories

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >these warnings were only added after this bug was reported
          correct, but before it was
          >If this option is passed, all files and directories created by a tmpfiles.d/ entry will be deleted. Keep in mind that by default, /home is created by systemd-tmpfiles

          >with no mention that tmpfiles was being used to manage non-volatile directories
          wrong

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why is /home considered a temporary file?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            see

            >was caused by a distro
            wrong
            https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/tmpfiles.d/home.conf

            >when they shouldn't have
            >the distro maintainers fricked up
            wrong
            https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd-tmpfiles.html
            >Historically, it was designed to manage volatile and temporary files, as the name suggests, but it provides generic file management functionality and can be used to manage any kind of files.

            >the user fricked up
            >This is a non issue
            correct

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            wrong :^)
            commit 9ebcac3 from last week added the part about /home, commit b5c8cc0 directly afterwards added the note about how it was historically used and dropped the part about it being for temporary volatile files. the documentation from 6 months ago up until last week made no mention of either of these. unless you explicitly looked in tmpfiles.d/ to see what folders were being managed you wouldn't have known /home would be deleted based purely on the documentation
            https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/81a1838/man/systemd-tmpfiles.xml

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            correct, I just hoped you wouldn't check 🙂

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        see [...]

        Why does a tool with "tmpfiles" in the name manage non-temporary files?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          read the fricking thread, you dumb moron

          >was caused by a distro
          wrong
          https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/tmpfiles.d/home.conf

          >when they shouldn't have
          >the distro maintainers fricked up
          wrong
          https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd-tmpfiles.html
          >Historically, it was designed to manage volatile and temporary files, as the name suggests, but it provides generic file management functionality and can be used to manage any kind of files.

          >the user fricked up
          >This is a non issue
          correct

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not an answer to my question

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ask lennart then, dumb moron

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'll do that after he's done getting sucked off by you

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no argument
            dumb moron

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >says "dumb moron" for the fourth time
            >says others have no argument

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Not knowing much about the systemd-tmpfiles architecture
    >--purge seemed like a good idea
    LMAO,
    PEBKAC

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >configuration examples allow this by default
      >get called out by users
      >gaslight users (bluca is a balding Microsoft developer)
      >quickly release 256.1 that fixes the defaults to sane ones
      i.. it was a user issue, and not a sabotage attempt

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, self sabotage by a moron running commands he doesn't even understand.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not sure what this is referencing exactly but
    >delete temp files
    >NOOO THOSE TEMP FILES NEED TO BE PERMENENT NOOOOOO
    I really need to get off my ass and hop to a non systemd distro.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, self sabotage by a moron running commands he doesn't even understand.

      The command literally read as "purge the temp files", and it deleted the user home directory because of systemd's officially braindead DEFAULT configuration. Systemd changed the braindead defaults 2 days after the bug report.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh OK so in other words not my problem (debian stable Chad here btw).
        Thank you arch beta testers! Enjoy your next round of hot pockets, I will personally double your pay!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The command literally read as "purge the temp files"
        wrong
        >If this option is passed, all files and directories marked for *creation* by the tmpfiles.d/ files specified on the command line will be deleted. Specifically, this acts on all files and directories marked with f, F, d, D, v, q, Q, p, L, c, b, C, w, e.
        >The primary usecase for this option is to automatically remove files and directories that originally have been created on behalf of an installed packaged at package removal time.
        >*Warning*! This is is usually not the command you want! In most cases --remove is what you are looking for.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What kind of configuration leads to the home dir being recognized as a temp directory?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Systemd changed the braindead defaults 2 days after the bug report.
        That sounds almost too moronic to be true. It's like, double moronic.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >marks your home directory as a temporary or a volatile file
    Great design, Poettering

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to go back to systemV
    I want to go back to init scripts

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do it
      https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Sysvinit
      nobody is forcing you to use systemd

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why these weird things don't happen to those who use windows?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It wouldn't have happened if the op wasn't moronic and playing around with commands he knows nothing about

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would Microsoft sabotage Windows?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To move every user to a monthly subscription Microsoft365 with VM instances in Azure.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > this is why noone uses linux
    You spelled systemd wrong.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was a great day when his defenders were left speechless.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bluca is also working for MSFT :^) pure coincidence though I still like him unironically, he's a solid dev. he just is way too smug

      [...]
      dumb morons, see [...] and [...]

      it's a mix of both, hence why even pottering is leaning towards changing the behaviour. the original behavior was intended in case of factory resets which is moronic, as it means it still intended to have some user data deleted through the command by design. but yes distro maintainers are moronic, as always, and used it that way for normal distributions too

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bet most people defending it saying "rtfm" haven't read a single man page

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NOOOOOOOOOOO
      NOOOOOOO
      NO
      no.
      I have worked with the RTFM people and i can give you detailed numbers of how many times they have read certain man pages or documentations:
      40 times the bootstrap documentation
      5 times the laravel documentation
      2 times the Mozilla js documentatino
      man pages:
      he did boast about the "ls" man page and "htop", will have to ask for others, but:
      How many kids does he has at 47? 0. Zero. null.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >use a tool called dicksucker
    >it crushes your balls
    >historically the tool was used to suck dick, as the name suggests, but later was expanded to also crush balls

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was going to say something in Arch's defense until I remembered that I'm using Mint right now beacuse I didn't want to go through the bullshit Arch can put you through.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The installation process is moronic, setting up a printer is moronic, some DEs are really fricking moronic. What was it for you anon?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How insane do you have to be to look at the user's home directory and go "Yes, yes, this should be temporary."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >r-read the thread!!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I did. All I saw with loonix homosexualry and nobody asking the real questions.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          literally 5 or 6 people asked the same question but the troonix homosexual keeps quoting his post

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