To be is to be nothing

Because everything else is corrupted by the moralizers.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gelassenheit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gesundheit.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is this really what Heidegger's work says?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. OP is a homosexual.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >greg johnson
        Embarrassing midwit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not even a little bit, OP is just hitting keys and hoping for the best

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not even a little bit, OP is just hitting keys and hoping for the best

      https://i.imgur.com/tuKjiwm.jpeg

      Gelassenheit.

      Gesundheit.

      Read Mindfulness by Heidegger.

      Being nothing means not letting what comes from you be corrupted by what was instilled in you. Ij other words you are not defined by your childhood and adolescence.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Being nothing means not letting what comes from you be corrupted by what was instilled in you.
        What "comes from us" and what's "instilled in us"?
        Just give me a tl;dr so I know if it's worth adding it to the queue.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What comes from you is your natural masculinity. Your genetics, your innate talents, your intelligence, your ambition. What was instilled in you is everything else. Your perversions, your irrational desires, your self-sabotaging.

          What Nietzsche calls sickness. The sick and corrupted animal - the degeneracy - the decadence. The priestly types and their flock. The guilt and shame ridden. The impotent and deviant.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, so it's just some 19th century mystic bullshit. Thanks for letting me know.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            None of that shit is in Heidegger, so I don't know where he's pulling it from, unless he's also the Gurdjieff sperg who keeps comparing him with Heidegger lately.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I’m the Gurdjieff sperg, this isn’t me. I’m probably annoying and dumb in other ways but not in this specific way of the OP. Also there’s at least multiple of me/something like me, as I’ve seen other posters reference and make threads of Gurdjieff, as well as make that comparison (of G. and Heidegger) before I did and responded to them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            None of that shit is in Heidegger, so I don't know where he's pulling it from, unless he's also the Gurdjieff sperg who keeps comparing him with Heidegger lately.

            I read Zein und Zeit and The Question Concerning Technology and actually applied the concepts. Then Mindfulness came naturally.

            You idiots never understood the man because you don't act. You can't understand a philosophy without applying it wholeheartedly.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What comes from you is your natural masculinity. Your genetics, your innate talents, your intelligence, your ambition. What was instilled in you is everything else. Your perversions, your irrational desires, your self-sabotaging.

        What Nietzsche calls sickness. The sick and corrupted animal - the degeneracy - the decadence. The priestly types and their flock. The guilt and shame ridden. The impotent and deviant.

        If that's what you pulled from Mindfulness, then you're misreading Heidegger completely, top to bottom. Heidegger isn't trying to save humanity, the meaning of his Letter on Humanism takes pains to point this out, that even his critique of technology isn't out of concern for man.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You have to save yourself. Find health, be the change you want to see in the world, and lead by example.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            By priestly types I don't mean Christianity or Judaism, which are harmless, but the priest himself and the priestly type of man. He can be of any religion or even be a multi level marketer.

            And of course he can be a philosopher and be a live only in a book. Almost all writers have their poison - don't forget that.

            And women of the priestly type are the most dangerous of all. There you can be trapped for eternity.

            This is schizo nonsense that has nothing to do with Heidegger. You've confused yourself into a delirium.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The danger is metaphysics itself. Heidegger deconstructs metaphysics.

            This is all thoroughly Heideggerian.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The cave is metaphysical and you're still trapped in it so can't see.

            Horseshit understanding of Heidegger, continued, apparently.

            [...]
            [...]
            "Being essentially occurs as a two-fold unity of presence and absence bound in time, whereby Dasein reveals beings within patterns of sense-making as alternative fields of intelligibility are necessarily concealed. Thus the foundational metaphysical riddle of "why is there something rather than nothing?" becomes an incorrect question that assumes a preeminence of beings as presence over the unfolding of Being: for Heidgger, the nothing is Being. Deep stuff and a guaranteed brain-bender for anyone willing to swim out past the breakers in the weird waters of Heidegger's phenomenology."

            It's Heraclitus. Unity of opposites and change.

            Why are you quoting a Goodreads review of Heidegger's Mindfulness at me? Actual book too opaque to use for b***hing about culture war shit?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He put it very well and being an intellectual means also being lazy. I'm teaching you for free after all.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You've done no such thing, but you're right on you being lazy.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yet no trace of his most important work Mindfulness.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's literally on the right hand side you idiot.

            [...]
            I read Zein und Zeit and The Question Concerning Technology and actually applied the concepts. Then Mindfulness came naturally.

            You idiots never understood the man because you don't act. You can't understand a philosophy without applying it wholeheartedly.

            You have no idea what Heidegger's about if you're preoccupied trying to "apply" him. Hint: he doesn't give a shit about humanity, he only gives a shit that Being / Beyng doesn't become reduced to an understanding of only beings.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You have no idea what Heidegger's about if you're preoccupied trying to "apply" him. Hint: he doesn't give a shit about humanity, he only gives a shit that Being / Beyng doesn't become reduced to an understanding of only beings.
            I agree with that. What is it that you disagree with what I've said?

            You seem upset.

            I'm not.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wrong, we plainly disagrees, e.g.:

            https://i.imgur.com/9euG4QY.jpeg

            Because everything else is corrupted by the moralizers.

            >Because everything else is corrupted by the moralizers.

            [...]
            [...]
            [...]
            Read Mindfulness by Heidegger.

            Being nothing means not letting what comes from you be corrupted by what was instilled in you. Ij other words you are not defined by your childhood and adolescence.

            >Being nothing means not letting what comes from you be corrupted by what was instilled in you. Ij other words you are not defined by your childhood and adolescence.

            What comes from you is your natural masculinity. Your genetics, your innate talents, your intelligence, your ambition. What was instilled in you is everything else. Your perversions, your irrational desires, your self-sabotaging.

            What Nietzsche calls sickness. The sick and corrupted animal - the degeneracy - the decadence. The priestly types and their flock. The guilt and shame ridden. The impotent and deviant.

            >What comes from you is your natural masculinity. Your genetics, your innate talents, your intelligence, your ambition. What was instilled in you is everything else. Your perversions, your irrational desires, your self-sabotaging.
            >What Nietzsche calls sickness. The sick and corrupted animal - the degeneracy - the decadence. The priestly types and their flock. The guilt and shame ridden. The impotent and deviant.

            All of this is nonsense moralizing pretending it's otherwise, as well as peculiar detour into geneticism that Heidegger blatantly rejects everywhere. You've replaced Heidegger's seinsfrage with dull Burzum-tier wannabe mystic reactions toward the modern world. You probably don't even read him, just summaries, since you haven't once in the past week said anything pertaining to his actual thought, just lazy Neo-Platonist regurgitations.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >geneticism that Heidegger blatantly rejects everywhere
            Have you read the black books? In Mindfulness he also talks about race.

            Don't play pseudo-stupid.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You dumb jackass, he explicitly rejects geneticism and racialism his whole career, his anti-semitism is metaphysical, not racial. From the man himself *in the Black Notebooks*:

            >That in the age of machination, race is elevated to the explicit and specially erected “principle” of history (or just of historiology) is not the arbitrary invention of “doctrinaires” but a consequence of the power of machination, which must cast down beings, in all their domains, into planned calculation. Through the concept of race, “life” is brought into the form of what can be bred, which constitutes a kind of calculation.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Opposing intervention in breeding because of its machination is one thing. Opposing race is another.

            Of course no outside force should interfere with love.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Opposing intervention in breeding because of its machination is one thing. Opposing race is another.

            Of course no outside force should interfere with love.

            "Heidegger also lobbied for the creation of a chair in race studies and genetics and “advocated that ‘in order to preserve the health of the state’ questions of euthanasia should be seriously contemplated.” "

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you just a pathological liar? Did you look for a passage in all of Heidegger's writings, not find anything after googling, and settle on what someone else claims? That quote appears in Yvonne Sherrat's "Hitler's Philosophers," and treats Heidegger as if he were no different from any other Nazi, and her *sole source* is a single page that she cites twice from the Anson Rabinach and Wlfgang Bialas authored "Nazi Germany and the Humanities", and their passage in full reads:

            >In the field of philosophy, the case of Gadamer’s mentor, Martin Heidegger, has received the greatest measure of attention. Documents recently made available in volume 16 of the Heidegger Gesamtausgabe show how profoundly the philosopher had internalized then-fashionable Nazi racial ideology. In his capacity as rector of Freiburg University, Heidegger actively lobbied the provincial minister of culture for a chair in “Race Studies and Genetics.” The “command structure of the new German reality,” argued Heidegger, should be based on principles of “inheritance” and “health,” which are in turn dependent on the historical and political development of a Volk.6 In order to preserve the health of the state, continues Heidegger, questions of euthanasia should be seriously contemplated. Such remarks make clear that the customary attempts to establish an absolute thematic disjunction between Heidegger’s own “fundamental ontology” and Nazi racial doctrines no longer hold water.

            Notice how they use quotations, putting "inheritance" and "health" in quotations, but not race or euthanasia. And their single citation, to vol. 16 of the Gesamtausgabe, isn't to any specific page of that volume, a collection of his papers as rector in the early 30s, but to an article on it in German paper Die Zeit from 2001, which is behind a paywall. And volume 16's texts are partly spread between different volumes, and, curiously, those are apparently the sole texts in Heidegger's 90-something volumes of writings and lectures where he brings up euthanasia! I'm pressing f to doubt.

            You are completely brain dead to have read that much Heidegger and still cling to metaphysics.

            You cling to metaphysics plenty, you braindead ESL. E.g., "You idiots never understood the man because you don't act. You can't understand a philosophy without applying it wholeheartedly." This is an enframing of philosophy, per Question Concerning Technology, which you claim to have read, but seem to lack any understanding of, otherwise you wouldn't be smugly claiming Heidegger needs to be "applied".

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You cling to metaphysics plenty, you braindead ESL. E.g., "You idiots never understood the man because you don't act. You can't understand a philosophy without applying it wholeheartedly." This is an enframing of philosophy, per Question Concerning Technology, which you claim to have read, but seem to lack any understanding of, otherwise you wouldn't be smugly claiming Heidegger needs to be "applied".
            You are even more moronic than I thought. Do you understand what Being Towards Death means?

            The goal is sovereignty but not a complacent life where one is brain dead and inactive. In that sense his student Arendt illuminates with the active life vs passive life. Mind you - being passive belongs to the woman.

            You seem to want to emphaze the Catholic in Heidegger which he could never really shake off. He had a priest at his funeral and made a confession on his deathbed.

            Is that not metaphysical? I am more Heidegger than Heidegger.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You are even more moronic than I thought. Do you understand what Being Towards Death means?
            Non-answer, as always.

            >The goal is sovereignty but not a complacent life where one is brain dead and inactive. In that sense his student Arendt illuminates with the active life vs passive life. Mind you - being passive belongs to the woman.
            Irrelevant, being-towards-death and authenticity don't call for any activity except philosophizing.

            >You seem to want to emphaze the Catholic in Heidegger which he could never really shake off. He had a priest at his funeral and made a confession on his deathbed.
            Wrong, I emphasize the ontologist thinker via phenomenology, you just pick up and run with whatever existentialism and mysticism you stumble over.

            Case in point;

            >You cling to metaphysics plenty, you braindead ESL.
            And having a peculiar brand of writing is called originality. I'm not a brain dead copy like you. That shows me you have a hive mind and are probably narcissistic.

            I'm a poet and write at a level you could only dream of. Not that a discussion with a moron deserves any second thought in how it unfolds.

            >And having a peculiar brand of writing is called originality. I'm not a brain dead copy like you. That shows me you have a hive mind and are probably narcissistic.
            >I'm a poet and write at a level you could only dream of. Not that a discussion with a moron deserves any second thought in how it unfolds.
            You write like an ESL who stumbles over English, and if ot, then you're here for (You) farming, since you don't intend to communicate anything with anyone except the products of your masturbation sessions. "Oooh, I don't use proper grammar or gradp what people say, THE MAKES ME A POET."

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You write like an ESL who stumbles over English, and if ot, then you're here for (You) farming, since you don't intend to communicate anything with anyone except the products of your masturbation sessions. "Oooh, I don't use proper grammar or gradp what people say, THE MAKES ME A POET."

            Always following the rules... Rules are metaphysical and don't really exist.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Irrelevant, being-towards-death and authenticity don't call for any activity except philosophizing.
            >Wrong, I emphasize the ontologist thinker via phenomenology, you just pick up and run with whatever existentialism and mysticism you stumble over.

            You're just using Heidegger to be a fricking loser. You had he had a wife and two mistresses right?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The point is Heidegger gives you freedom to be yourself through being nothing. If you look like a fricking nerd and I am a Chad them how we use our freedom will be very different.

            I also think you fail to understand what being nothing means.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You cling to metaphysics plenty, you braindead ESL.
            And having a peculiar brand of writing is called originality. I'm not a brain dead copy like you. That shows me you have a hive mind and are probably narcissistic.

            I'm a poet and write at a level you could only dream of. Not that a discussion with a moron deserves any second thought in how it unfolds.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You finally got it didn't you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are completely brain dead to have read that much Heidegger and still cling to metaphysics.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The cave is metaphysical and you're still trapped in it so can't see.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The danger is metaphysics itself. Heidegger deconstructs metaphysics.

            This is all thoroughly Heideggerian.

            The cave is metaphysical and you're still trapped in it so can't see.

            "Being essentially occurs as a two-fold unity of presence and absence bound in time, whereby Dasein reveals beings within patterns of sense-making as alternative fields of intelligibility are necessarily concealed. Thus the foundational metaphysical riddle of "why is there something rather than nothing?" becomes an incorrect question that assumes a preeminence of beings as presence over the unfolding of Being: for Heidgger, the nothing is Being. Deep stuff and a guaranteed brain-bender for anyone willing to swim out past the breakers in the weird waters of Heidegger's phenomenology."

            It's Heraclitus. Unity of opposites and change.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You have to save yourself. Find health, be the change you want to see in the world, and lead by example.

          By priestly types I don't mean Christianity or Judaism, which are harmless, but the priest himself and the priestly type of man. He can be of any religion or even be a multi level marketer.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And of course he can be a philosopher and be a live only in a book. Almost all writers have their poison - don't forget that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And women of the priestly type are the most dangerous of all. There you can be trapped for eternity.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh but anon I have, your problem is that you're reading Heidegger as if he is Sartre, and he isn't.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Heidegger's problem with Sartre is that Sartre clings to metaphysics. Heidegger is Sartre on steroids.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Mindfulness
        >moralizers
        >etc.,.
        Heidegger confirmed for subvert. Flush him down the toilet of history. He's just a German version of Emerson, Whitman, Thoreau, and all the other idiots who birthed the hippy movement.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's a good point but the people you named all rely on metaphysics. Heidegger gives you complete freedom to be yourself.

          >You are even more moronic than I thought. Do you understand what Being Towards Death means?
          Non-answer, as always.

          >The goal is sovereignty but not a complacent life where one is brain dead and inactive. In that sense his student Arendt illuminates with the active life vs passive life. Mind you - being passive belongs to the woman.
          Irrelevant, being-towards-death and authenticity don't call for any activity except philosophizing.

          >You seem to want to emphaze the Catholic in Heidegger which he could never really shake off. He had a priest at his funeral and made a confession on his deathbed.
          Wrong, I emphasize the ontologist thinker via phenomenology, you just pick up and run with whatever existentialism and mysticism you stumble over.

          Case in point;
          [...]
          >And having a peculiar brand of writing is called originality. I'm not a brain dead copy like you. That shows me you have a hive mind and are probably narcissistic.
          >I'm a poet and write at a level you could only dream of. Not that a discussion with a moron deserves any second thought in how it unfolds.
          You write like an ESL who stumbles over English, and if ot, then you're here for (You) farming, since you don't intend to communicate anything with anyone except the products of your masturbation sessions. "Oooh, I don't use proper grammar or gradp what people say, THE MAKES ME A POET."

          You're a fricking hippie.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As soon as you try to exert your will in any way you become a "moralizer" preaching your preferred aesthetics to the wilderness.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t. Adam Lanza

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The wilderness doesn't exist anymore.

      t. Adam Lanza

      What are you so scared of? We live in a harmless world that's been taken of all its danger. The psychotic fear of death paralyzes you like if you were a little girl.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You seem upset.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pseudery. Not even peak pseud, just pseud.

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