Universal episcopacy

What problem do Orthodox have with the idea of a universal bishop if that universal bishop has pristine apostolic pedigree and even the keys of St Peter? Are they inherently rebellious?

What is the problem with a universal episcopacy?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. Constantinople just wanted to usurp the position that Rome held, a position which is more ancient than any of its claims, and historically more authoritative. The followers of its bishop to this day still seethe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Christianity has an imperial centre
      Ok bro

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >even the keys of St Peter
    Prove it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You lack faith in a universal episcopacy, if you didn’t you would know this by faith.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        not an substantial argument. Man can have faith in pagan gods that does not make them valid

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Pray to God to give you faith in universal episcopacy and faith in authentic Petrine lineage will come - my advice

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            substantiate your claims
            The Donation of Constantine is not a valid source

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You seriously doubt that the Papacy in Rome is the lineage of Peter?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why does that give you supremacy over the rest of the church when Antioch and Alexandria were also founded by Peter

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He died in Rome, he didn’t need to leave a personal successor in the other places as when he left them he was still alive. Saint Peter was crucified upside down in Rome and succeeded by Linus.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why are the successors he appointed elsewhere not just as if more valid having being appointed first

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They weren’t successors because he wasn’t dying on those times. Plus Paul died in Rome too so it has twin prestige, and is also the capital of the Roman empire, making it the natural and only global, universal church.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            God doesn't care for secular power just as Christ said his kingdom is not of this world. Rome being the capital of the Roman Empire isn't pertinent for these theological claims

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Early church and patristic tradition is Roman primacy, and even the East held to this for one millennium. Rome is even called a blessed church in the Bible (1 Peter 5:13). What better candidate for universal episcopacy could there be than this??

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Your sister church in Babylon, chosen together with you, sends you greetings, and so does my son Mark.
            Ok I get that Babylon means Rome but how does this give Rome a higher status than the churches the letter is addressed to?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That verse doesn’t, what gives Rome a higher status is its patristic status and the fact that Peter died there establishing his chair there.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >They weren’t successors because he wasn’t dying on those times
            Didn't Christ pick out Peter for special recognition before he died? Why does his dying matter for the pedigree of his successors? Sounds like special pleading.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There is a difference between appointing other people along the road compared to appointing a successor in your final resting place.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >on the road
            He wasn't just "on the road", he was on an apostolic ministry in each of the three cities. What is the basis for presuming that he did not intend for each of his successors to be equal in esteem?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He was on the road. The Book of Acts ends in Rome. The road leads to Rome.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The orthodox literally think that the church of god mentioned in revelation is in Jerusalem, they are no different than protestants

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Elaborate

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