USB-C was a mistake

USB-C was a mistake

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is always how USB has worked. Why is IQfy pretending to be upset about it now?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably Applegays still shilling for Thunderbolt.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You mean Lightning? Thunderbolt has been done over USB-C since 2015 on Macbooks, and Apple finally got rid of Lightning for good last year since the EU forced their hand.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, that's what I meant. You can tell I don't have an iPhone.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            As an igay, you could tell how hard Apple was milking iPhone owners specifically since they were phasing out Lightning on the iPads since 2018 with the Pro 3. The cable royalties were too sweet to ignore

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            tbf lightning was the superior solution for phones
            it is physically simpler, more robust and easier to clean on the phone side
            since you use your phone's connector 99% for charging only that's all that matters
            I understand that compatibility trumps all that but lightning did have its advantages

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            how are you supposed to use that?
            just have your tablet laying flat at all times so the port doesn't break?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Either use it in landscape mode (optionally with the keyboard dock) or have the USB port on the top.
            The "What's a computer?" commercial was made for the iPad Pro 3 and that was around the time when Apple started testing the waters with turning the iPad from a fancy phone with a massive screen to a laptop replacement.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            it's still going to get forces from the cables and you moving around
            sure way to frick such a flimsy port

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >pic
            LMAO holy shit, appleBlack folk think this is normal and acceptable

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Aka copying microsoft's homework with the Surface Pro.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      newbie zoomers just finding out about it, trying to play with the big boys.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because you frickheads were all "frick yeah daddy eu save us from cables!!!" And pretended the future would be a single cable to rule them all.

      Instead we are literally the same as before except cables are now visually indistinguishable.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >5 billion different incompatible ports for incredibly specific functions
        vs.
        >1 port with a few different specifications
        I LITERALLY CANNOT HECKIN TELL THE DIFFERENCE!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        sure, like it's better to have dozens of incompatible charching ports just so that you can at-a-glance tell if the cable you're using is faster than an SSD
        who cares, no one even uses cables to transfer shit anymore, total non-issue

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >no one even uses cables to transfer shit anymore
          Yeah, I use magic to transfer files to my external drive.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            boomers need not apply

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This, the plug is fine. The complete lack of standardisation of the cable inbetween is a fricking joke and a pure game of russian roulette when shopping for them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the plug is fine
      >buy a cable
      >half of the pins missing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        thats my point, there's no standard to whats inside the cable

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          if the pins were on the outside you could at least make an educated guess

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >there's no standard to whats inside the cable
          There are 8 standards.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, I wish manufactures/retailers were forced to include data speed and charge wattage on the box/advert - been burnt a few times

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Reputable brands do.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Only real solution to the bad cable problem. Buying brand name cables instead of Aliexpress chinkshit pays in the long run since they actually fit the advertised specs, and they're built better and last longer in my experience.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >yeah, I wish manufactures/retailers were forced to include data speed and charge wattage on the box/advert - been burnt a few times
            Buy quality cables, this isn't a problem if you don't allow chinkshit cables in your home.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            don't buy ugreen/baseus tier or even lower chinkshit then

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This, the plug is fine. The complete lack of standardisation of the cable inbetween is a fricking joke and a pure game of russian roulette when shopping for them.

          cope, just don't buy chinkshit. I don't have this problem

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well that's just what happens when internet moderators worm their way into the real world. It just doesn't make any sense and it ends up being frustrating for no good reason.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How about read the cable description when you buy it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >buy a cable
        >half of the pins missing
        SOVL

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If I had a highschool crush that I would not admit to most people, it would be the SCART. I don't know why this analogy came to my mind, but it just did.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            anon u want to frick a cable

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What does this do?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I remember my PS1 hooking up with it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Remember composite cables europeans used that instead.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i don't even care about standardization, shitty cables can exist for whatever purposes/price points need them. i just want them to be clearly labeled

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >buys cheap cables
      >cables are bad
      Damn, sucks to be you. I bought a good quality USB 20Gb/s cable and it did just fine for even thunderbolt 3.
      I don't use my cheap long charging cables for high speed data.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's wrong with having options?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      either deliberately deceiving adverts or just pain missing information from product pages

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    USB-C is good. I doubt we need to change that format for decades. I could easily see machines in year 2324 still having USB-C port in them. Dunno what version of USB it would support.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >one day apple decides to ban cables altogether
      >OHHHHHH my heckerino having no cables is so much better, how did we manage to survive so long having cables
      (You) will have no cables
      (You) will have no control
      (You) will everything you want rent
      (You) won't be happy but nobody will give a shit about what a fully surrendered peon thinks

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've never seen a USB-C device that supported faster than 2.0 speeds, they don't exist.
    All USB-C devices are USB 2.0 unless proven otherwise.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My phone from 6 years ago does.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Yes I own an iPhone 15, how could you tell?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kek my samshit tablet copies my movies at a few gbps. pretty convenient. helps a lot too for parsing all my pictures too. the frick are you on about

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >This is always how USB has worked.
    fake news

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the difference here is that you can buy a cable and expect to know what it supports.
      Blue USB ports were always 5Gbps or faster.
      All USB-C cables support different subsets of the standard so they're not really interchangible.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >All USB-C cables support different subsets of the standard so they're not really interchangible.
        The cables are completely interchangeable with the different standards to the limit of either the cable or the port. If you want the best possible buy a top speed cable and connect it to your top speed port now whatever you plug it into you will always get the best the other port can provide.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How long can this interchangeability continue? Will the point where we need to move to USB-D and have an entirely different size and discard all previous USB-Cs due to incompatibility with the new D ports come soon, or can USB-C be improved upon for the next decade?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            We can still use USB A with a modern cable and that's like 30 years old.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >be deranged tech troony
      >unironically think bottom right is ok

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >be deranged tech troony schizoid
        >bitching about bottom right because the aesthetic doesn't work within xer psychosis

        the difference here is that you can buy a cable and expect to know what it supports.
        Blue USB ports were always 5Gbps or faster.
        All USB-C cables support different subsets of the standard so they're not really interchangible.

        >Blue USB ports were always
        The chinks don't care, so you have to look at the port via USBTreeView and such utilities to see if it is true USB 3.0. I like to use a permanent marker and mark blue ports black when they are "fake USB 3.0".

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Could probably add one more row of standards when you consider different levels of power delivery support and different levels of video output support.

          >you have to look at the port via USBTreeView and such utilities to see if it is true USB 3.0. I like to use a permanent marker and mark blue ports black when they are "fake USB 3.0".
          I've never encountered such a port on any sort of computer I've owned or used. What are you even running?

          >we should have as many different ports and plugs as we have devices out there
          >we should keep sheds with a literal million different cables and adapters for all our tech

          Yeah, now you just keep a shed with a literal million different USB-C cables and none of them are compatible with another one, plus you can't tell at a glance which does which.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah, now you just keep a shed with a literal million different USB-C cables and none of them are compatible with another one
            Why do you keep parroting this lie? I can use one USB-C cable to use my cell phone, my flash light, my mouse, my xbox controller, my external SSD, etc.

            I've never had a problem where I've had to use a different USB-C to do something. Are you just moronic, or IQfy contrarian incel posting?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >micro b male

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [Micro]-B 2 to 3 pisses me off, why did they get rid of backward compatibility?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        they didn't you idiot, a micro will plug into it still

        if you're talking about the other way it doesn't matter as you'd have A male on the other

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They do have backwards compatibility, you can use the devices with USB2 only cables. You can't use them with USB3 ones, but there wouldn't be a point because the devices can't support it anyway.

        Having four different micro/mini connectors was a lot more annoying, everything single thing used something different.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The problem no one wants to talk about is the "fake" USB-C ports that can only be accessed if the other end of the cable is USB-A. Even if you buy the most expensive "smart" C to C cable, it won't work.
    I was excited to find an electric razor with a USB-C recharge but it doesn't work with C to C.
    This is because manufacturers don't want to, or care to, or aren't smart enough to pay chang the thirty cents for a usb control chip.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      those fake cables work in 1 direction but not the other

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      plug the cable in the other way baka

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this would all be fine
    but why does not a single manufacturer properly label their cable
    just put a little 3.2G2 or whatever in the molding
    how hard can it be

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i just bought my first usb c 3.2 cable and i feel like im in the future even though i dont have 20 gb of anything to move in a second that i couldnt just simply let transfer all night im not in any kind of a hurry or anything really

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    having a standardize connector and port is a good thing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you are a moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >we should have as many different ports and plugs as we have devices out there
        >we should keep sheds with a literal million different cables and adapters for all our tech

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, it wasn't
    Perfect system.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    USB is a mistake. Lightning connector best connector.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Lightning
      Which capacity has the biggest stick of that?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I remember some usb C device that worked on usb A to usb C cable, but not usb C cable to usb C cable

    like it couldnt electronically accept the power that came through, because it was an usb C cable, which was wrong so you had to usb usb cable instead

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So USB C 2.0 us just microusb with a different connector.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I love USB C, don't see the problem. I assume anyone hating on it has no valid criticism and is just being a typical IQfy contraritard poster.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's just morons who have no idea what they're doing, live in a complete mess and pick up random cables to plug in shit just because it fits. Those were the people who used random barrel plug power supplies without reading if it's center positive or negative and fried their cheap electronics. Now at least their shit doesn't blow up.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >3.2 Gen 1
    >3.2 Gen 2
    >3.2 Gen 2x2
    wtf where they thinking with this naming?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say same specs double speed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Confuse the shit out of end users so they don't realize they dropped the cable spec in gen2

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >3.2 Gen 2x2: Episode One

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's always marketingBlack folk

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the marketing names are Black personlicious, but at least from version 3.2 Gen 1x1 (bruh) they contain the speed.
        The speed is probably bullshit and only valid for small bursts, but still, this 5Gbps is infinitely more useful than the operation mode
        They should've used GBps instead of Gbps, normies (and me) don't care about bits and need to divide it by 8 again

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          nah, all connection speeds are in bits. internet, wifi, ethernet, displayport, chips speed all in bps. probably marketing, but im happy it's one relatively consistent thing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They really wanted to be PCIe without realizing why PCIe's scheme is easy to understand.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's ebin when you have a bunch of usb cords and they're all secretly different, so some will let your device charge fast and/or transfer data, but others won't, it's really fun experimenting for me as a tech lover

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >plug usb thing in
    >it works
    youse a bunch of whiny b***hes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what about when it doesnt

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >universal plug
    >le bad
    have a nice day with your proprietary plugs amerimutt

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you need more than USB 2 on USB peripherals
    It's a port for keyboard, mices, webcam and printers

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    usb-c(shit) slightly moves in a charging port of charger or phone, instantly loses connection.
    old reliable mini-usb moves in a fricking loosen port and just werks, doesn't give a single frick.

    I was a proponent of type c in every device, now I just hate it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Never had this issue stop buying cheap devices with shit ports

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oh you sweet summer child.

        Shit ports are everywhere, prices are irrelevant, corpos don't cherrypick, it is literally a moronic gacha. Don't pretend you're not ignorant.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ports on everything I buy are fine. Skill issue.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      USB-C:
      >Accidentally drop phone off of countertop, ends up yanking the power brick it's attached to through a C-C cable
      Mini-USB:
      >Rated for half the insertions of USB-C (5000 vs 10000)

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What exactly are the physical differences in the cable that give it higher bandwidth? Do they just literally just stuff it with more cables/connectors?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      pinouts

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't there also some stupid differentiation between data transfer cables and power cables? I never read into any of that because it sounded so dumb.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is. And there are multiple standards for both power delivery and data transfer. And implementations of each may vary.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To be completely fair, it does tend to "just werk" even with these moronic specifications. Even my generic Chinese cables that came with various e-waste devices seem to charge and transfer files. The only instance I can think of where it doesn't is with various fast charging protocols across different smartphones.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, if you don't get the worst possible, most chink cable imaginable it's usually okay, at worst you'll only charge at 15W and have not-so-good speeds. Problem is whenever you want to use any of the cool new USB features, finding a good cable that has it all is nearly impossible even if you want to spend the money, so you'll have to keep one for the quick charging, one that has alternate mode for whatever video resolution and framerate you want, one that has OTG for sure and so on.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Isn't there also some stupid differentiation between data transfer cables and power cables?

      Yes, and also whether the port can carry DP video signal or PCIE lines or whatever.

      I have one single USB-C cable in my home, it's wired for USB2, and used for a fricking xbox gamepad. So good fricking job there, idiots.

      however this is still nowhere near as bad as USB1/1.1/2. Back then none of the ports were labeled and we had to try all 8 of them on all four PCs in the office until we found TWO in total that could use USB2 speeds for external drives (and had an up-to-date OS to support USB2).
      We also found that two ports were plugged to the motherboard backwards and fried all pendrives that we connected to it.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Most of my equipment is USB-B.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Thunderbolt comes stamped with TB logo and version. If they don't then they are not certified and most likely not up to spec (chink shit).
    All USB cables worth buying are certified and spec is clearly stated by manufacturer. Newest high speed cables are stamped with spec on the plug.
    Old or low spec cables are a mess though. No easy way to tell them apart.
    So basically it is a mess but it seems like it's being addressed on new cables.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's still stupid as hell. There's no reason USB 4 has to use the physical connector as USB 2 when the cables are dramatically heavier and cost an order of magnitude more. It's not like 2 is ever going away either because later standards double the pinout.

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