Was virginity really something only valued by Europeans for most of history?

Was virginity really something only valued by Europeans for most of history?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Radiochan

    no
    for example Japanese geisha, upon completing their studies, would have their virginity auctioned off by their mistresses

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Another shitty take from radiotran. OP said "valued", not "commoditized".

      • 1 month ago
        Radiochan

        it's obviously valued

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What kind of commodity has 0 value?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          IQfy opinions

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That would imply IQfy opinions are a commodity THO

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yo momma

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    proof that japan and islamic civilizations are leaders of women's rights, freedom, and liberation

    meanwhile degenerate west was the most misogynistic and oppressive to women

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Islamic civ
      huh

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Islam is the true homosexual religion!
      Slay Brother Slay!!!

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    direct answer: no.
    Only post-Christian Europeans did this

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't Europeans who invented shit like infundibulation.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's infibulation

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Japan was always a freaky sex country, see yobai

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >women in Japan pay no mind to virginal purity
    And the men?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They love cuckold as long as it’s within ethnic lines. Just imagine all the Polynesian or Mongolian BVLLs

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Islam still values virginity of both sexes, so not really.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >some Jesuit slanderer in a letter
    >"the people of this island frick pigs every day, send us more money"

    >some liberal professor 300 years later
    >"as you can see, pigfricking is natural and good and everybody did it except the white male oppressors"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In 1500s Japan they did lots of messed up things. Such as women stepping on the necks of babies they couldn't afford or families purposefully abandoning their elders in the mountains they could no longer afford to feed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah what exactly was going on in japan in the 1500s? People being desperate because the land is full of constant war and theres no guarantee they'll be able to feed themselves doesn't mean they're inherently shitty and degenerate

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This shit happened in Europe too, the difference like that guy hints at is that Europeans were much more happy to document other peoples doing fricked up and degenerate things than they were for themselves.
        I was reading an account of the Wager shipwreck in southern Chile and one guy basically hints that cannibalism was happening for survival without outright saying it, because it was such a demeaning prospect to admit they were doing it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >because it was such a demeaning prospect to admit they were doing it.
          If they did they might have gotten in trouble with the church or some other authority.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    when push come to shove, ain't nobody want to become maidenless

    ladys

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Female virgin slaves sold for more in the Ottoman Empire. So no.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is image does not say that whatsoever, there's more in the world than Japan & Europe

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No. Read Derek Freeman on Samoans for example

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, it's probably just Christian propaganda. Most cultures were traditionnally quite anti-sex.

    This makes sense because STDs and unwanted pregnancy were a much bigger issue before modern times. There were no condoms, hygine in general was worse, and there was no medicine of you caught an STD. So basically every time you had sex there was a significant risk of getting a deadly disease and leave an orphaned child.

    So ancient cultures put a lot of taboos around sex and tried to keep it in a controlled environment (among married couples), which became ingrained in culture. Since most societies were controlled by men, women of course became the target of most of this, since they were easiser to control by virtue of being less powerful.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I remember reading on how West Africans practices large scale sex avoidance before colonialism due to how deadly it was to birth and raise a child in the tropics.

      https://i.imgur.com/prAFt3j.jpeg

      Was virginity really something only valued by Europeans for most of history?

      Also for you OP, east Africans practiced female genital mutilation at the largest rates to protect chastity in not just the Abrahamic parts but it was found in pagan communities that had minor influences from the coastal Arab trading ports. Sex for women was largely considered for just a single partner and for the rearing of children, not pleasure. For non equestrian peoples like Africans and east Asians, virginity was determined largely via bleeding during sex which was an issue for European noble females

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >This makes sense because STDs and unwanted pregnancy were a much bigger issue before modern times
      You're obviously ignorant and uneducated and it annoys me

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        wtf do you think you're proving with this graph?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/WifGT3W.jpeg

        2nd reason why you're wrong

        >1950's
        >anon was talking about ancient cultures
        God, you're moronic

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/WifGT3W.jpeg

        2nd reason why you're wrong

        >using data fron 1960 onwards to attempt to disprove a point about the significance of STDs during antiquity
        For reference, something like HIV, which has dominated the STD area for the last few decades, didn't even exist during antiquity. Meanwhile something like Chlamydia, while painful and embarrassing in the modern day is completely treatable, while in the ancient past it was debilitating and sometimes even fatal.
        People were EXTREMELY unknowledgeable and outright scared about diseases in the ancient period, they believed and adhered to all manner of superstitious bullshit about its transmission.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      2nd reason why you're wrong

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Had to write a paper on this. Even in Europe it was more of a suggestion. On paper everyone said viriginity was this sacred thing to be protected but in practice it often wasn't feasible. The line between dating and prostitution was so vague people regularly went to court to argue over whether they were married or not because the Church considered secret weddings legal. There were even women living with priests as wives in all but name until someone would rat them out to the priest's higher ups. Also people died a lot so everyone married several times. This was in England tho, might've been harsher elsewhere.
    Virginity was a useful get out of jail free card if you were caught cross-dressing as a conquistador in South America tho. Forget her name but that was a big thing.

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