"wE dOn'T gO tO bArS wErE sAvEd!"

*styles entire worship service as if it's in a loud dimly lit bar*

what gives

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The point of going to the bar is to get drunk.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      idk i've only gone to a bar to get drunk like twice out of all the times i've ever gone to a bar in my nearly 40 years of life. usually i just go to eat, drink, and be merry with friends. i don't like the usual bar atmosphere but i will go to them to share time with friends. last few times i mostly got non alcoholic brews, they're becoming a lot more popular and there are a lot more varieties of them than there used to be.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Take and eat, for this is my body.
      *gives you bread and wine as if you were in a tapas bar*

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >we don't get drunk
      >we just participate in mass hysteria every week
      *babbles incoherently and faints on the floor*
      Reminder that the Pentecostal experience is the same as ecstatic African shamanism.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Reminder that the Pentecostal experience is the same as ecstatic African shamanism.
        Why do you think third worlders love it so much?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no. pentecostal worship is very much like worship in the first century church. you can read about it from the early church fathers.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Could you quote me a passage where Augustine describes people rolling their eyes into the backs of their heads, cackling madly, and babbling incoherent gibberish while flailing around?

          If not Augustine I'll take Cyril or some other Church Father.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://malcolmguite.wordpress.com/2018/08/28/st-augustines-jubilation-a-new-sonnet/

            “Sing in jubilation: singing well to God means, in fact, just this: singing in jubilation.

            It is to realize that words cannot communicate the song of the heart. Just so singers in the harvest, or the vineyard, or at some other arduous toil express their rapture to begin with in songs set to words; then as if bursting with a joy so full that they cannot give vent to it in set syllables, they drop actual words and break into the free melody of jubilation. The jubilusis a melody which conveys that the heart is in travail over something it cannot bring forth in words. And to whom does that jubilation rightly ascend, if not to God the ineffable? Truly is he ineffable whom you cannot tell forth in speech, yet we ought not to remain silent, what else can you do but jubilate? In this way the heart rejoices without words and the boundless expanse of rapture is not circumscribed by syllables. Sing well unto him in jubilation.”[1]

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *only vocals used in new testament worship*

    "yea let's have a full rock band with drums, guitar, bass, and then vocals"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >full rock band with drums, guitar, bass, and then vocals
      That's how they do it at my local Roman Catholic Church
      t. Latinx

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically disgusting

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're a Murican not a European with true culture

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So what? Europe's full of atheists and Muslim immigrants. At least here in Latinx America people believe in God and sing reggaeton songs in praise of Virgin Mary.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did I find the Campbellite?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's so sad that it seems in mere protest to an imaginary enemy, ancient Christianity, Protestants wage this war on beauty and mystery. It's really sad, like profoundly so.

    That image is great, BTW. He nails it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's just late Medieval/early Modern art though. Not even Roman Catholics make this sort of art anymore. Every single church built in the last 50 years in my town is a generic modernist/post-modernist building that barely looks any different from your run-of-the-mill theatre/school/aquarium.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't mean to suggest that I insisted on a particular style, though my church is quite beautiful and classical in mode, but I imagine any style can be fitted to a sacred and beautiful register, though that is inherently risky because of the artistic licence it suggests and the genius it assumes of the designer, but that is quite different from having no suggestion whatsoever of beauty or the sacred like you see with mega and strip mall churches. And yes, we have termites on our property too.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >strip mall churches
          Oh, we got churches in malls here in Mexico too, Roman Catholic ones even.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I weep.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sede aesthetics can save things.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sedes still have this aesthetic

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So what? Do you think Roman Catholics in Brazil or Congo go to churches with these aesthetics? Do the Baroque/Rococo/Neo-Classical aesthetics stop people from becoming atheists? No. People who have strong faith in God will believe regardless of what kind of church they go to or what services they attend. People whose entire approach to religion clings on aesthetics might as well just be atheists.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Aesthetics can elevates the soul to the celestial sphere. The goal is to make the person celestial and attached to celestial things of heaven.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, that's just psedo-empiricism full of air. I've seen people who go to churches with roofs made of corrugated steel who say they feel a personal connection with God every time they pray. Those churches are usually in extremely poor slums, where people barely have enough money to pay for a plot of land and some concrete mix bags to lay the floor down with. People who go to those churches are Roman Catholic Christians with an extremely strong faith in God DESPITE the fact that they have few to no icons in their churches and only a few benches made of cheap, simply cut wood.
            On the other hand, I've seen people who go to some of the most luxuriously decorated churches in my town who don't actually believe in God or miracles or anything of that sort, but just go to church every Sunday because they got into the habit of doing it from a young age. Many of them are agnostics at best and tend to be liberal in politics and opinions.

            Aesthetics do nothing for a believer.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Aesthetics do nothing for a believer.
            The blind ones, yes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      huh? protestants actual enemy was catholicism and their goal was to reform the church back to its first century roots, where you would find no instruments being used in worship

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, but Catholicism is ancient too.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yea, but the pope is the antichrist and the fruit of the catholic church is boy rape sooo....

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't mean to attack Protestants, but it is a wildly glaring problem that can't go unmentioned. Beauty is as important as truth and goodness.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >self hating gay uses religion as a crutch for his cognitive dissonance
    >shuts himself out of the world for decades but still opines on it like he has had a complete experience
    Not only do you get the "socially inept monk" lecture about how the kids these days don't believe in God enough, but you get all of this colored by someone desperately trying to hide from themselves.

    Eugene Rose was a studious and mentally clumsy oaf.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      idk seems like he didn't hide from his homosexuality at all and confronted it head on by becoming a celibate member of the orthodox church. you homos aren't doomed to hell, you can be born again.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >homosexual orientalist roleplays as a cleric of some newage meme religion after taking some bad acid
        Sounds like he was hiding from being a gay to me.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          orientalist roleplays as a cleric of some newage meme religion after taking some bad acid

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            but that is literally what he did

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >didn't hide and confronted
        He explicitly hid from it and his personal letters talk about him using his isolation as a means of running from it.

        >making an religious appeal to someone while openly making petty insults
        Performative holiness is a sin anon and being two faced is as well.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >openly making petty insults
          what are you construing as a petty insult here?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well Eugene Roses's whole "the Pope is a Freemason" thing is a start.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The petty insult is where he calls the me a "homo." This is only ever used in a derogatory context. It belies that his appeal to salvation is false and only uses as a way to elevate himself over others he deems (incorrectly even, I never said I was gay) to be sinners. Using the God's word and mercy as a vehicle to traffic your own hate is taking His name in vain and a sure road to self damnation.

            the bible says to flee sexual immorality, so if he had to isolate himself to nohomosexual then good for him, he's confronting his flesh and denying sin

            >confronting by hiding
            Those two words are antonyms. In any case is homosexuality is only incidental to him self isolating for decades and still opening on his exceptionally uninformed world view as if he had something of value to say.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            sorry, that sentence wasn't even directed at you and i wasn't trying to be derogatory.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you homos aren't doomed to hell
            >that sentence wasn't even directed at you and i wasn't trying to be derogatory
            I am incredulous that you honestly think that. You used the plural inclusive "you" twice and then an term who's only use is as derogatory slur. It's as if you walked up to someone you thought was black and said "you Black folk are [insert whatever here]" and are now trying to walk it back by claiming that you weren't trying to insult or direct it at them.

            You said what you meant and I can only construe this post as a dishonest and false apology followed by a blatant lie. There are many strains of Christian belief with varying interpretations of sin, but your continued behavior is a remarkably poor display in any one of them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            whatever snowflake

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the bible says to flee sexual immorality, so if he had to isolate himself to nohomosexual then good for him, he's confronting his flesh and denying sin

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He was literally just a hippie who thought he was too cool for Buddhism and Hare Krishna because he knew a thing or two about Greek philosophy and church history.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >didn't hide and confronted
      He explicitly hid from it and his personal letters talk about him using his isolation as a means of running from it.

      >making an religious appeal to someone while openly making petty insults
      Performative holiness is a sin anon and being two faced is as well.

      He was in gay relationships before finding the church, so I doubt that he was that self-hating.
      Also, becoming a monk to deal with sexual immorality isn't unusual in the church.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Also, becoming a monk as a homosexual and still teaching people publicly isn't unusual in the church.

        Indeed

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The guy literally just wrote books, a good chunk being more about the world around and orthodoxy in it.
          He didn't teach dogmatics like say Pomanazansky.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This guy sucked dick and ate cum and took dick in his butt and fricked butts

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seraphim Rose, the primordial Convertadox radtrad.

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