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Why did young people abandon RSS? And why did websites stop providing RSS feeds? It's so convenient, you can get updates to all of your content in one place.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also, who the frick came up with the name Atom to replace RSS? You couldn't have come up with a worse name if you tried. RSS is so unique and recognizable, Atom meanwhile is so generic.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is the relation between RSS and Atom exactly? Because everyone still uses RSS readers and feeds, I've never seen anyone talking about Atom other than mentioning it in passing, nobody is asking what the best Atom reader is.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's because most readers do both

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is the relation between RSS and Atom exactly? Because everyone still uses RSS readers and feeds, I've never seen anyone talking about Atom other than mentioning it in passing, nobody is asking what the best Atom reader is.

      A guy by the name of Mark Pilgrim made Atom (probably with other people)
      His opinion was that the multiple different versions of RSS were shit and underspecified
      so he made something better
      I agreed with him, so I only make Atom feeds and don’t bother with any variant of RSS ever

      https://i.imgur.com/oxmRuwN.png

      Why did young people abandon RSS? And why did websites stop providing RSS feeds? It's so convenient, you can get updates to all of your content in one place.

      Any blog site is basically configured to have some kind of feed automatically
      you’re just noticing the decline of blogs (especially since Medium started walling its garden, and Twitter long before it became X)
      Oh, and when Google Reader died, not everyone ran off to pay for a feed aggregator like Feedbin

      What is the relation between RSS and Atom exactly? Because everyone still uses RSS readers and feeds, I've never seen anyone talking about Atom other than mentioning it in passing, nobody is asking what the best Atom reader is.

      “RSS” is just the catch-all term these days, like how people say “Kleenex” to mean “snotrag”

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >A guy by the name of Mark Pilgrim made Atom (probably with other people)
        >His opinion was that the multiple different versions of RSS were shit and underspecified
        >so he made something better
        >I agreed with him, so I only make Atom feeds and don’t bother with any

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not wrong
          But also wrong
          RSS was always confusing because it had like three different versions and some of them had the feed consumer have to guess
          Atom doesn’t seem to frick up

          Also https://www.jsonfeed.org/

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why did young people abandon RSS?

    Why did websites abandon RSS feeds, preventing young people from subscribing to them?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      twitter and the decline of individual blogs.

      https://i.imgur.com/oxmRuwN.png

      Why did young people abandon RSS? And why did websites stop providing RSS feeds? It's so convenient, you can get updates to all of your content in one place.

      it's alright but a lot of news sites tend to put a lot of irrelivant junk
      >t. zoomer

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's a chicken and the egg situation. Zoomers are too tech illiterate to use RSS and websites stopped providing them.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >RSS
    THey didn't. Membership at all-time-high.
    >https://www.npr.org/2019/05/03/706808616/the-powerful-group-shaping-the-rise-of-hindu-nationalism-in-india

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is there any counter op against the Pajeet menace?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Young people abandoned RSS because they adopted the Web 2.0 megasites, which adopted push notifications that generally lock in users to the platform.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never gonna happen. ~~*They)) won't allow it. You shall live in walled gardens.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > And why did websites stop providing RSS feeds?
    Which one do you mean? I have subscribed to the RSS feed of most of the sites I want.
    Even if its not displayed as a link, they often still have it as a tag in the html head. Most tools should be able to locate them automaticly.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The main reason why it still survives is that it was never very popular, I think. Those hidden RSS links only exist because they don't threaten social media engagement. If they did, if people started using RSS readers instead of subscribing on Twitter or w/e, those sites would probably drop RSS support. Or maybe some bastardized social media form of RSS would emerge.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't want you getting it in one place. They want you to check the site regularly.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it never left
    the vast majority of my internet consumption is still done through rss and a few little shell scripts.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can you share your scripts

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It feels like the best RSS readers are subscription based and I find that offputting, no I don't want a cli reader thanks for the suggestion

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the point when articles barely display a paragraph of text and make you click a link for the full thing?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >articles barely display a paragraph of text and make you click a link for the full thing
      good feeds don't do this. shitty feeds can be fixed with https://morss.it/
      >What's the point
      mainly the fact that I don't need to manually open the website and check for updates constantly since my reader is doing it automatically for me. I can also use filters to only see articles that I'm interested in.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is this a serious question or are you merely pretending to be mentally handicapped?

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Downloading updated ISOs has never been comfy

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they did? most of them don't even know it's a thing. teach them to catch that fish
    t. zoomzoom

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the browser vendors were largely to blame of not knowing how to make it usable for normans.

    Firefox live bookmarks thing felt half-assed and kind of sucked as an RSS reader, so, unsurprisingly, no one used it and it got removed.

    Opera had a 3 pane mail client GUI (similar to Outlook or Thunderbird) for this that just werked as soon as you clicked the bright orange RSS icon, providing the best possible experience, but no one used Opera, because otherwise it looked too autistic with too many buttons and toolbars that no one needed. IE7 came way too late, but with a decent UI as well.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can you still subscribe to Youtube channels via RSS?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yea. append the channel ID to this url: https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=
      alternatively you can use invidious or piped rss

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can and it's the best.
      I loved the very old YouTube application on Android back in 2011-2012 because the Home page was simply the channels you subscribed to, with all videos sorted in chronological order.
      Then they made the new app and ditched that system for random shit I didn't want to see or they mixed my subscriptions with other content I didn't care for.
      RSS retains the old way. I use Feeder on Android: https://github.com/spacecowboy/Feeder

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't you get a mess of shorts and lives mixed into your feed as well? It's not a problem for many channels, but still.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You do. But I only have one channel doing lives and another one doing shorts so I'm good.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know why, but after some recent updates, my Feeder is acting up. The update feeds process takes very long to complete, and it still does not go to the top when it's done.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it has never went away
    use it

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's part of the wider problem of tech illiteracy. How do you start using something you don't even know exists? RSS still exists, boorus and Github have it for example.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It simply got pruned, not because people are tech illiterate, but because the the concept of subscribing to a "website feed" was foreign to most people to begin with.
    > Oh, you needed that? Use the website like everybody else, we're not catering to special interest groups anymore because it costs time and money to maintain a feature barely anyone uses.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    95% of websites have an rss feed whether they realize it or not because their cms is still autogenerating it

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you can use simple RSS for youtube channels to stay "up to date"

    frick google accs and subscribe BS

    i dont tell you how

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >And why did websites stop providing RSS feeds?
    RSS gives the user control over when and how they fetch content. It was replaced by push notifications so the site owners can control when and how you get notified of new content. Young people don't know any better, push notifications are all they've ever known.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can't put aggressive ads in RSS articles
    /thread

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why did young people abandon RSS?
    Because young people don't actually go on websites anymore. They no longer "browse the internet"

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's as user unfriendly as possible.
    Also total blog death didn't help.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    desktop rss reader anons, how do you sync your subscriptions between computers? i like rss guard a lot but the only way to share data is to point at e.g. a self-hosted ttrss instance, but that's bloat

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    not rss, but I synch keepass and some config files with syncthing. Might work for you

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i use syncthing for other stuff but i'm afraid of letting it sync a sqlite db, maybe my fear is unfounded if it works fine for KeepAss?
      also i lied, there's another way to sync rss guard but i hate it.. my current approach is to push the db to a git repo, but with clean/smudge scripts to convert it to and from a sqldump when changes are committed. think i'll just give syncthing a shot

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