Went full Nietzsche schizo on my girlfriend and now she's a depressed atheist

Went full Nietzsche schizo on my girlfriend and now she's a depressed atheist

women are not cut for hard truths they need cuddling physically and spiritually

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >girlfriend
    Leave, normgroid. I can't stand people who talk about their girlfwend. Absolute fricking pussy homosexuals.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bro just get a girl to love you is easy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So easy that I can't even get a single like or match on dating apps

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          girl in dating apps are not there for love they're there to find a cuck or a chad no middle grounds maybe try bumble and put effort in your profile just dont be cringe

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was told Hinge is better because women were more serious, but still no luck there. It's all fricking gigacope and bullshit.

            Frick off back to r9k you serial whiner.

            Who cares? This thread is fricking garbage anyway

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >maybe try bumble
            Bumble is full of the most normie women I've ever seen. The average profile goes something like, "I'm a registered nurse and dedicated dog mom looking for her partner in crime. Love travelling, Taylor Swift, and wine bars."

            https://i.imgur.com/EJO9iak.jpeg

            So easy that I can't even get a single like or match on dating apps

            Do you have any pictures on your profile that aren't selfies? You would be amazed at the difference that makes

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You would be amazed at the difference that makes
            Noted for next time

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >next time
            Just add a couple to your profile now dummy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Frick off back to r9k you serial whiner.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >apps
          Blackpill time: apps are exclusively for hookups and unless you are 8/10 or above you are not getting a fricking match let alone a date. It doesn't matter what you do with your profile, it doesn't matter what kind of pictures you take, it doesn't matter if you have a cool car or a photo of you in Paris. You *might* have a little bit of luck if you post a photo of yourself on a boat and imply that it's yours, or you have a little money and can reflect such a lifestyle in your pictures.

          it gets worse. Your bio doesn't matter, they won't read it. You're either hot or not. A lot of women don't even use the app for anything but stroking their own ego, they have a bunch of simps in their DMs giving them all kinds of attention at all hours of the day. Even fat and ugly b***hes get matches.

          It gets worse. Even if you match, 9/10 of them won't reply or will expect you to carry the entire conversation if they do. They want to be entertained and they want to see you acting like a clown for their benefit.

          It gets worse. Even if you're above average in looks, have good photos, get likes and matches, and have all of your metaphorical ducks in a row, you are still outnumbering the women on the app in a three to one or sometimes even 10 to 1 ratio. Good luck competing with gigachads can slay effortlessly irl but just use the apps because it's convenient.

          It gets worse. Even if all of the stars align and you match and go on a date, these girls are fricking god-awful and boring. None of them will intellectually stimulate you, they just want sushi and Netflix and trips to the beach. They have no personalities whatsoever, they are maybe good for a frick if you're into casual sex. Dating apps are mostly for the desperate loser woman who have something wrong with them in one way or another who can't find a partner otherwise.

          These apps are designed to take your money, not to find you a girlfriend. Best bet is to quit using them all together. Out of several matches across them, I went on a single date, and that was just because I asked for a +1 for a wedding, I imagine. No girl wants to turn down free food. She was okay, but boring and had a tattoo (wasn't visible in her photos). I regret it, would have been better off if I hadn't.

          TLDR just work out and find a social hobby. Something to expose you to a girl that is actually worth your time. The rich or "hotter" men. I found my gf online after years of improvement, but I wasn't really looking. It needs to happen organically.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Save your godforsaken black pill screeds for a different board, thank you very much

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are mistaken. This is just a blackpill for apps. Anything else is fine, just avoid these shitty fricking apps like the plague. They will do nothing but waste your time and, if they can, money.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are mistaken. This is just a blackpill for apps. Anything else is fine, just avoid these shitty fricking apps like the plague. They will do nothing but waste your time and, if they can, money.

            >apps are bad
            >I found my gf on an app
            Lol come on man

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Learn to read. I wrote that I found her online, not on an app. I found her on a forum. But apps do no favors for average men, you can experience it yourself if you like to waste time.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I found her on a forum
            Long distance "relationships" don't count, sorry anon

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They do if she moved in with me and we live together. Again, I got extremely lucky and most probably couldn't hack it the way I did for one reason or another. It just happened to work in my case, but I definitely don't recommend it.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >women are not cut for hard truths
    Redpilled. If men spoke to women the way they speak to us, many relationships would be over but maybe, just maybe, women would begin to be accountable.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    chuddegger

    low quality thread

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My wife is reading Tolkien right now next to me. Women operate much better on that "it's about the friends we make along the way" philosophy. Reintroduce your girlfriend to romantic philosophers/stories and don't use Nietzhe/Scopenhauer to be overcritical and a sad c**t.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What a fool. Women aren't cut out for philosophy. they are to receive their philosophy through mediation, through the poet.

      based

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have her read Aquinas to cancel out the Nietzsche

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      aquinas just Yaps a lot and copies Aristotle

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's hard to do this to girls only if you got their attention through a mundane topic but that's why r9k has many females becasue topics around there are very simple and lacks no depth in it.

    tells you a lot about females mindset

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Went full Nietzsche schizo on my girlfriend and now she's a depressed atheist
    "Who among you can at the same time laugh and be exalted?
    He who climbeth on the highest mountains, laugheth at all tragic plays and tragic realities."

    "What hath happened unto me? How have I freed myself from loathing? Who hath rejuvenated mine eye? How have I flown to the height where no rabble any longer sit at the wells?
    Did my loathing itself create for me wings and fountain-divining powers? Verily, to the loftiest height had I to fly, to find again the well of delight!
    Oh, I have found it, my brethren! Here on the loftiest height bubbleth up for me the well of delight! And there is a life at whose waters none of the rabble drink with me!"

    "To be sure, I am a forest, and a night of dark trees: but he who is not afraid of my darkness, will find banks full of roses under my cypresses.
    And even the little God may he find, who is dearest to maidens: beside the well lieth he quietly, with closed eyes.
    Verily, in broad daylight did he fall asleep, the sluggard! Had he perhaps chased butterflies too much?
    Upbraid me not, ye beautiful dancers, when I chasten the little God somewhat! He will cry, certainly, and weep— but he is laughable even when weeping!
    And with tears in his eyes shall he ask you for a dance; and I myself will sing a song to his dance:
    A dance-song and satire on the spirit of gravity my supremest, powerfulest devil, who is said to be “lord of the world.”—
    And this is the song that Zarathustra sang when Cupid and the maidens danced together"

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >and now she's a depressed atheist
    "I should only believe in a God that would know how to dance.
    And when I saw my devil, I found him serious, thorough, profound, solemn: he was the spirit of gravity— through him all things fall.
    Not by wrath, but by laughter, do we slay. Come, let us slay the spirit of gravity!"

    "With the old Deities hath it long since come to an end:— and verily, a good joyful Deity-end had they!
    They did not “begloom” themselves to death—that do people fabricate! On the contrary, they—laughed themselves to death once on a time!
    That took place when the unGodliest utterance came from a God himself—the utterance: “There is but one God! Thou shalt have no other Gods before me!”—
    —An old grim-beard of a God, a jealous one, forgot himself in such wise:—
    And all the Gods then laughed, and shook upon their thrones, and exclaimed: “Is it not just divinity that there are Gods, but no God?”
    He that hath an ear let him hear.—"

    >Went full Nietzsche schizo on my girlfriend
    Obviously, you did it wrong.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    N. (can't fricking spell his name) hated women. By having a gf you are betraying him.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >N. (can't fricking spell his name)
      Do zoomers not now how to copy and paste?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It took you longer to type out your reasoning than it would have taken to look up how to spell Nietzsche.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tell her she has to whip you now and you have to hit her with a stick. If you went full Nietzsche then that should fix it.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >revealing your philosophy powerlevel to your gf
    Thank God it was only nietzsche. You really dodged a bullet there anon.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bro, have you read Nietzche? The entire point of hai writing is that pretty much noone can cope with the reality of Nihilism and escape it unless they were led by the ubermensch or found solace in something similar to religion. In fact Nietzche himself couldn't find it and ended up slowly killing himself.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Notice how it said should?
      "In fact, all the tables of value, all the “you should’s” which history or ethnological research knows about, need, first and foremost, illumination and interpretation from physiology, in any case even before psychology. All of them similarly await a critique from the point of view of medical science. The question “What is this or that table of values and ‘morality’ worth?” will be set under the different perspectives. For we cannot analyze the question “Value for what?” too finely. Something, for example, that would have an apparent value with respect to the longest possible capacity for survival of a race (or for an increase in its power to adapt to a certain climate or for the preservation of the greatest number) would have nothing like the same value, if the issue were one of developing a stronger type."

      >The entire idea of the Ubermensch was that
      that Ubermensch is too abstract an idea. You should strive to it, moron, but it is deliberately too vague to reach.

      "Ah, there are so many things betwixt heaven and earth of which only the poets have dreamed!
      And especially above the heavens: for all Gods are poet-symbolisations, poet-sophistications!
      Verily, ever are we drawn aloft—that is, to the realm of the clouds: on these do we set our gaudy puppets, and then call them Gods and Supermen:—
      Are not they light enough for those chairs!—all these Gods and Supermen?—
      Ah, how I am weary of all the inadequate that is insisted on as actual! Ah, how I am weary of the poets!"

      "Many lands saw Zarathustra, and many peoples: no greater power did Zarathustra find on earth than the creations of the loving ones—”good” and “bad” are they called.
      Verily, a prodigy is this power of praising and blaming. Tell me, ye brethren, who will master it for me? Who will put a fetter upon the thousand necks of this animal?
      A thousand goals have there been hitherto, for a thousand peoples have there been. Only the fetter for the thousand necks is still lacking; there is lacking the one goal. As yet humanity hath not a goal.
      But pray tell me, my brethren, if the goal of humanity be still lacking, is there not also still lacking—humanity itself?"

      "They did not “begloom” themselves to death—that do people fabricate! On the contrary, they—laughed themselves to death once on a time!
      That took place when the unGodliest utterance came from a God himself—the utterance: “There is but one God! Thou shalt have no other Gods before me!”—
      —An old grim-beard of a God, a jealous one, forgot himself in such wise:—
      And all the Gods then laughed, and shook upon their thrones, and exclaimed: “Is it not just divinity that there are Gods, but no God?” "

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Low reading comprehension. Stop, reread, and try again. Try to stifle the speed reading.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Low reading comprehension.
          You provided no answer. Hence frick off, animal.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your ability to post lines of text without any context or realization of what said text says is proof of your inability to comprehend what your talking about. How am I to respond the gibbering of a madman convinced of his own intelligence?

            Even within your posts, you are incapable of proving your point and I'm assuming your hoping the wall of poetry that your posting, because really that aspect of the writing is more poetry than it is theory, will prove some nonexistent point that you have.

            Nietzche is very clear I his statements of the failure of religion and the death of God. In these statements he actively states that man has to overcome itself and ascend to individualism, and furthermore a group of individual, able to find worth within themselves. While he says this he actively and consistently acknowledged the inability of the average individual to do so and states that there must be a class of ubermensch, which by no means is vague and is very clearly someone who established their own individual morality and purpose. Within this Nietzche sees humanity's only hope.

            And in this regard, as I stated earlier, even Nietzche failed. To believe that anybody could be an ubermensch, and furthermore to push nihilism others, is to completely misunderstanding g the writings and intent of his work.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anybody in this context meaning everyone rather than none. There are certainly some able to come to terms with absurdism and function, but not everybody.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >which by no means is vague
            You've been literally provided a quotation of the Ubermensch being a "poet-symbolisation, poet-sophistication" akin to a god. Further quotes also compare it to a phantom.

            "Higher than love to your neighbour is love to the furthest and future ones; higher still than love to men, is love to things and phantoms.
            The phantom that runneth on before thee, my brother, is fairer than thou; why dost thou not give unto it thy flesh and thy bones? But thou fearest, and runnest unto thy neighbour."

            >In these statements he actively states that man has to overcome itself
            Which is a physiological process and not a prayer to some Superman. Different overcomings for different types of humans, moron.
            Ubermensch as such is deliberately vague. It is *the process of* striving that matters, not the Ubermensch itself.

            "Sometimes the value of a thing is not what you get with it but what you pay for it, - what it costs. Here is an example. Liberal institutions stop being liberal as soon as they have been attained: after that, nothing damages freedom more terribly or more thoroughly than liberal institutions. Of course people know what these institutions do: they undermine the will to power, they set to work levelling mountains and valleys and call this morality, they make things small, cowardly, and enjoyable, - they represent the continual triumph of herd animals. Liberalism: herd animalization, in other words ... As long as they are still being fought for, these same institutions have entirely different effects and are actually powerful promoters of freedom. On closer inspection, it is the war that produces these effects, the war for liberal institutions which, being a war, keeps illiberal institutions in place. And the war is what teaches people to be free. Because, what is freedom anyway? Having the will to be responsible for yourself Maintaining the distance that divides us. Becoming indifferent to hardship, cruelty, deprivation, even to life. Being ready to sacrifice people for your cause, yourself included. Freedom means that the manly instincts which take pleasure in war and victory have gained control over the other instincts, over the instinct of 'happiness', for instance. "

            >states that there must be a class of ubermensch, which by no means is vague
            merely a class of a new nobility

            "O my brethren, I consecrate you and point you to a new nobility: ye shall become procreators and cultivators and sowers of the future;—
            —Verily, not to a nobility which ye could purchase like traders with traders’ gold; for little worth is all that hath its price."

            >and is very clearly someone who established their own individual morality and purpose
            The Higher Men in the 4th part of Zarathustra have those, yet they are still not Ubermenschen.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The problem with your posts are they are so incredibly long with so little content or real substance. His comparison of the Ubermensch to God is in direct comparison of the idea of the death of God. The idea is that the ubermensch will fill the hole that gods death left behind. I feel like your unable to separate the purple prose in which he writes from his actual intent and ideology. Furthermore his reference to a phantom is a callback to the shadow over Europe, that being the shadow of God that was left behind and which consistently preaches will be the downfall of Europe.

            In regards to ubermensch being vague, if your point is that each kncidual ideology that is vague and personal, sure, but the base idea and concept behind the purpose is very simple. An individual must be an individual and find his own individual purpose. The very usage of the word ubermensch, and the very comparison of them to God, shows that it is not an easy task and is certainly not achievable by everyone. Again this way of speaking has the intended purpose of showcasing the importance of individualism is a society without religion.

            Your statement of the class of nobility only continues to prove my point of your inability to comprehend what your reading as you really aren't making a point and are using a quote from the passage rather than articulating what you mean

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >His comparison of the Ubermensch to God is in direct comparison of the idea of the death of God.
            Correct. The Ubermensch is literally God's replacement:
            "Could ye create a God?—Then, I pray you, be silent about all Gods! But ye could well create the Superman."

            The problem is: as Zarathustra later acknowledges, they are both a fiction. A "poet-symbolisation, poet-sophistication".

            Just like in one chapter Zarathustra prases willing, and in a later one says that the willing is what had caused all the mess.

            "Willing emancipateth: that is the true doctrine of will and emancipation—so teacheth you Zarathustra."

            "Willing emancipateth: what doth Willing itself devise in order to get free from its tribulation and mock at its prison?
            Ah, a fool becometh every prisoner! Foolishly delivereth itself also the imprisoned Will."

            >Furthermore his reference to a phantom is a callback to the shadow over Europe, that being the shadow of God
            This phantom is beneficial, moron. The problem is, it is a lie.

            >In regards to ubermensch being vague,
            "This, this is my declivity and my danger, that my gaze shooteth towards the summit, and my hand would fain clutch and lean—on the depth!
            To man clingeth my will; with chains do I bind myself to man, because I am pulled upwards to the Superman: for thither doth mine other will tend.
            And therefore do I live blindly among men, as if I knew them not: that my hand may not entirely lose belief in firmness."

            "Remain true to the earth, my brethren, with the power of your virtue! Let your bestowing love and your knowledge be devoted to be the meaning of the earth! Thus do I pray and conjure you.
            Let it not fly away from the earthly and beat against eternal walls with its wings! Ah, there hath always been so much flown-away virtue!
            Lead, like me, the flown-away virtue back to the earth— yea, back to body and life: that it may give to the earth its meaning, a human meaning!"

            >the intended purpose of showcasing the importance of individualism
            "Of course, 'individuals', as peoples and philosophers have understood them so far, are a mistake: individuals are nothing in themselves, they are not atoms, they are not 'links in the chain', they are not just legacies of a bygone era, - each individual is the entire single line of humanity up through himself"

            "A high culture is a pyramid: it needs a broad base, its first presupposition is a strongly and healthily consolidated mediocrity. <...> Mediocrity is needed before there can be exceptions: it is the condition for a high culture. When an exceptional person treats a mediocre one more delicately than he treats himself and his equals, this is not just courtesy of the heart, - it is his duty"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Incredibly low IQ.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your excuse as to why you are unable to comprehend the text, is duly noted.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >reads the text
            >doesn't understand the first line of the paragraph
            >stops reading
            This is why you should stop coming to IQfy

            You restated what I said and claimed I don't know what I said. It's driving me insane to argue with someone who can only quote words but doesn't understand what they mean.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >reads the text
            >doesn't understand the first line of the paragraph
            >stops reading
            This is why you should stop coming to IQfy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he went mad from being an atheist and died
      Why do all of you repeat this as if it were some spiteful parable? Few writers have been honest about not being well but still affirmed being well as superior to being sick (I can think of Teddy Roosevelt as another example, who claims to have fought off asthma or some weakness of his lungs by having an active lifestyle). The notion that Nietzsche cognitively declined because of arguing against Christianity is just too stupid to believe, and the kind of person who parrots it is either dishonest or moronic. Blessed are the poor in brain

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nietzsche didn't think his philosophy would make the average person happy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nietzsche didn't think his philosophy would make the average person happy.
      "For one thing is needful: that a human being should attain satisfaction with himself - be it through this or that poetry or art; only then is a human being at all tolerable to behold! Whoever is dissatisfied with himself is continually prepared to avenge himself for this, and we others will be his victims if only by having to endure his sight. For the sight of something ugly makes one bad and gloomy."

      "Then you look upon your love for your neighbour as a grace? Your pity as a grace? Well, then, if you can do all this, there is no reason why you should not go a step further: love yourselves through grace, and then you will no longer find your God necessary, and the entire drama of the Fall and Redemption of mankind will reach its last act in yourselves!"

      "Tempting into Love.—We ought to fear a man who hates himself; for we are liable to become the victims of his anger and revenge. Let us therefore try to tempt him into self-love."

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Notice how it said should? The entire idea of the Ubermensch was that the average individual would be unable to adapt to the realities of Nihilism.

        I swear to God some people pretend to read.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          to this one

          >Notice how it said should?
          "In fact, all the tables of value, all the “you should’s” which history or ethnological research knows about, need, first and foremost, illumination and interpretation from physiology, in any case even before psychology. All of them similarly await a critique from the point of view of medical science. The question “What is this or that table of values and ‘morality’ worth?” will be set under the different perspectives. For we cannot analyze the question “Value for what?” too finely. Something, for example, that would have an apparent value with respect to the longest possible capacity for survival of a race (or for an increase in its power to adapt to a certain climate or for the preservation of the greatest number) would have nothing like the same value, if the issue were one of developing a stronger type."

          >The entire idea of the Ubermensch was that
          that Ubermensch is too abstract an idea. You should strive to it, moron, but it is deliberately too vague to reach.

          "Ah, there are so many things betwixt heaven and earth of which only the poets have dreamed!
          And especially above the heavens: for all Gods are poet-symbolisations, poet-sophistications!
          Verily, ever are we drawn aloft—that is, to the realm of the clouds: on these do we set our gaudy puppets, and then call them Gods and Supermen:—
          Are not they light enough for those chairs!—all these Gods and Supermen?—
          Ah, how I am weary of all the inadequate that is insisted on as actual! Ah, how I am weary of the poets!"

          "Many lands saw Zarathustra, and many peoples: no greater power did Zarathustra find on earth than the creations of the loving ones—”good” and “bad” are they called.
          Verily, a prodigy is this power of praising and blaming. Tell me, ye brethren, who will master it for me? Who will put a fetter upon the thousand necks of this animal?
          A thousand goals have there been hitherto, for a thousand peoples have there been. Only the fetter for the thousand necks is still lacking; there is lacking the one goal. As yet humanity hath not a goal.
          But pray tell me, my brethren, if the goal of humanity be still lacking, is there not also still lacking—humanity itself?"

          "They did not “begloom” themselves to death—that do people fabricate! On the contrary, they—laughed themselves to death once on a time!
          That took place when the unGodliest utterance came from a God himself—the utterance: “There is but one God! Thou shalt have no other Gods before me!”—
          —An old grim-beard of a God, a jealous one, forgot himself in such wise:—
          And all the Gods then laughed, and shook upon their thrones, and exclaimed: “Is it not just divinity that there are Gods, but no God?” "

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You pathetic fricking moron, have a nice day

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you homosexuals concentrate so much on nietzsche when the french post structuralists have done more recent damage. I never see a thread on derrida and how he strips heidegger's entire project as meaningless.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kierkegaard BTFOs Nietzsche but your girlfriend might become a Jesus freak

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    quick reminder that once you've read the complete works of Nietzsche, it's time to study Evola
    Nietzsche's biggest limitation was the availability of quality Eastern traditional texts during his time (not his fault), which led to various misinterpretations about Buddhism and Hinduism.

    Read some Guenon then read Yoga of Power if you want to become an ubermensch

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >quick reminder that once you've read the complete works of Nietzsche, it's time to study Evola
      Nietzsche is all about naturalism, eliminativism and (proto)-postpositivism.

      The Magic Baron is none of that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nietzsche's limitations are abundantly made clear once one has read Guenon

        ze Baron manages to reconcile the two by adding a layer of metaphysics to Nietzschean thought, and connects it with a certain Traditional school (in this case, Hindu Tantra)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >by adding a layer of metaphysics to Nietzschean thought
          Ironic, given that the whole Nietzschean project is the eradication of metaphysics, diagnosing it as the main maladie that plagues the civilization.

          "The other idiosyncrasy of the philosophers is just as dangerous: they confuse what comes first with what comes last. They take what comes at the end (unfortunately! since it should not come at all!), the 'highest ideas', which means the emptiest, most universal ideas, the last wisps of smoke from the evaporating end of reality - and they put it at the beginning, as the beginning. But again, this is just their way of showing respect: the highest should not grow out of the lowest, it should not grow at all ... Moral: everything from the first rank must be a causa sui [cause of itself]. It is an objection for something to come from something else, it casts doubt on its value. All the supreme values are of the first rank, all the highest concepts, Being, the Unconditioned, the Good, the True, the Perfect - none of these could have become, and so they must be causa sui. But also, none of these things can be different from the others or opposed to them ... This is how they get their stupendous concept of 'God' ... It is the last, emptiest, most meagre idea of all, and it is put first, as cause in itself, as ens realissimum [The most real thing] ... Why did humanity have to take the brain diseases of sick cobweb-weavers so seriously? - It has certainly paid the price!"

          >ze Baron manages to reconcile
          And Paul manages to reconcile Jesus with judaism, yes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >given that the whole Nietzschean project is the eradication of metaphysic
            which is cringe and absolutely demolished by Guenon

            not gonna play quotesy with you, as i've read all the works of nietzsche multiple times over and know that i'm right on this particular subject

            instead of holding an absolute nietzschean position, you should be seeking strains of nietzschean thought in the East. as I said in my earlier post, his biggest limitation is his misunderstanding of Eastern traditions due to the limited availability of quality translations at the time.

            watch this

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >seeking strains of nietzschean thought in the East
            >4:00 "is that selfishness?", "idealistic individualism"
            That's fricking embarrassing. Of course, there would be correlations: one is hijacking one's own opioid secretion. It's an ape brain thing: you behave this "selfless" way, as if you are under marijuana. So much for your "demolished by Guenon"

            Meanwhile

            >Notice how it said should?
            "In fact, all the tables of value, all the “you should’s” which history or ethnological research knows about, need, first and foremost, illumination and interpretation from physiology, in any case even before psychology. All of them similarly await a critique from the point of view of medical science. The question “What is this or that table of values and ‘morality’ worth?” will be set under the different perspectives. For we cannot analyze the question “Value for what?” too finely. Something, for example, that would have an apparent value with respect to the longest possible capacity for survival of a race (or for an increase in its power to adapt to a certain climate or for the preservation of the greatest number) would have nothing like the same value, if the issue were one of developing a stronger type."

            >The entire idea of the Ubermensch was that
            that Ubermensch is too abstract an idea. You should strive to it, moron, but it is deliberately too vague to reach.

            "Ah, there are so many things betwixt heaven and earth of which only the poets have dreamed!
            And especially above the heavens: for all Gods are poet-symbolisations, poet-sophistications!
            Verily, ever are we drawn aloft—that is, to the realm of the clouds: on these do we set our gaudy puppets, and then call them Gods and Supermen:—
            Are not they light enough for those chairs!—all these Gods and Supermen?—
            Ah, how I am weary of all the inadequate that is insisted on as actual! Ah, how I am weary of the poets!"

            "Many lands saw Zarathustra, and many peoples: no greater power did Zarathustra find on earth than the creations of the loving ones—”good” and “bad” are they called.
            Verily, a prodigy is this power of praising and blaming. Tell me, ye brethren, who will master it for me? Who will put a fetter upon the thousand necks of this animal?
            A thousand goals have there been hitherto, for a thousand peoples have there been. Only the fetter for the thousand necks is still lacking; there is lacking the one goal. As yet humanity hath not a goal.
            But pray tell me, my brethren, if the goal of humanity be still lacking, is there not also still lacking—humanity itself?"

            "They did not “begloom” themselves to death—that do people fabricate! On the contrary, they—laughed themselves to death once on a time!
            That took place when the unGodliest utterance came from a God himself—the utterance: “There is but one God! Thou shalt have no other Gods before me!”—
            —An old grim-beard of a God, a jealous one, forgot himself in such wise:—
            And all the Gods then laughed, and shook upon their thrones, and exclaimed: “Is it not just divinity that there are Gods, but no God?” "

            , Nietzsche agrees.
            >"In fact, all the tables of value, all the “you should’s” which history or ethnological research knows about, need, first and foremost, illumination and interpretation from physiology, in any case even before psychology. All of them similarly await a critique from the point of view of medical science.

            Neetz is merely trying to make you secrete a painkiller.
            "Love brings to light the high and the hidden characteristics of the person who loves—what is rare and exceptional about him: to that extent it easily misleads us about what is normal in him."

            Why? Because per "Genealogy of Morals":
            "Now people no longer moaned against pain; they longed for pain: “More pain! More pain!”— that had been the demanding cry of his disciples and initiates for centuries."

            But the morons started fapping on hindu gods.

            >0:28 -religion of idealistic individualism
            It's communitarianism, if you so desperately want to label it. Complex networks ain't metaphysics, chud.

            >1:12 - "of special significance, is the beautiful doctrine of the Superman"
            Ironic, since it is the least important of Nietzsche's ideas and literally acknowledged to be a spook.
            Moreover, it is literally acknowledged that doctrines ultimately

            >which by no means is vague
            You've been literally provided a quotation of the Ubermensch being a "poet-symbolisation, poet-sophistication" akin to a god. Further quotes also compare it to a phantom.

            "Higher than love to your neighbour is love to the furthest and future ones; higher still than love to men, is love to things and phantoms.
            The phantom that runneth on before thee, my brother, is fairer than thou; why dost thou not give unto it thy flesh and thy bones? But thou fearest, and runnest unto thy neighbour."

            >In these statements he actively states that man has to overcome itself
            Which is a physiological process and not a prayer to some Superman. Different overcomings for different types of humans, moron.
            Ubermensch as such is deliberately vague. It is *the process of* striving that matters, not the Ubermensch itself.

            "Sometimes the value of a thing is not what you get with it but what you pay for it, - what it costs. Here is an example. Liberal institutions stop being liberal as soon as they have been attained: after that, nothing damages freedom more terribly or more thoroughly than liberal institutions. Of course people know what these institutions do: they undermine the will to power, they set to work levelling mountains and valleys and call this morality, they make things small, cowardly, and enjoyable, - they represent the continual triumph of herd animals. Liberalism: herd animalization, in other words ... As long as they are still being fought for, these same institutions have entirely different effects and are actually powerful promoters of freedom. On closer inspection, it is the war that produces these effects, the war for liberal institutions which, being a war, keeps illiberal institutions in place. And the war is what teaches people to be free. Because, what is freedom anyway? Having the will to be responsible for yourself Maintaining the distance that divides us. Becoming indifferent to hardship, cruelty, deprivation, even to life. Being ready to sacrifice people for your cause, yourself included. Freedom means that the manly instincts which take pleasure in war and victory have gained control over the other instincts, over the instinct of 'happiness', for instance. "

            >states that there must be a class of ubermensch, which by no means is vague
            merely a class of a new nobility

            "O my brethren, I consecrate you and point you to a new nobility: ye shall become procreators and cultivators and sowers of the future;—
            —Verily, not to a nobility which ye could purchase like traders with traders’ gold; for little worth is all that hath its price."

            >and is very clearly someone who established their own individual morality and purpose
            The Higher Men in the 4th part of Zarathustra have those, yet they are still not Ubermenschen.

            do not matter; it is the problem of forcing the dumb cattle to fight for them.

            >3:00 - "Buddha, Arhat, etc."
            "Sultry heart and cold head; where these meet, there ariseth the blusterer, the “Saviour.”
            Greater ones, verily, have there been, and higher-born ones, than those whom the people call Saviours, those rapturous blusterers!
            And by still greater ones than any of the Saviours must ye be saved, my brethren, if ye would find the way to freedom!"

            All in all, 10 minutes into this shit, the guy mostly quotes common sense quotes Nietzsche. No idea how this makes magical metaphysics credible.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            sounds like you got filtered
            seethe more, hylic

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >sounds like you got filtered
            No, u. Sounds like you missed all Nietzsche's criticism against ascetism.
            "The means of becoming a medicine-man among the Indians, a saint among Christians of the Middle Ages, an angecok among Greenlanders, a Pagee among Brazilians, are the same in essence: senseless fasting, continual abstention from sexual intercourse, isolation in a wilderness, ascending a mountain or a pillar, “sitting on an aged willow that looks out upon a lake,” and thinking of absolutely nothing but what may give rise to ecstasy or mental derangements."
            "Do ye understand why this had to be done through insanity? by something which is in both voice and appearance as horrifying and incalculable as the demoniac whims of wind and sea, and consequently calling for like dread and respect? by something bearing upon it the signs of entire lack of consciousness as clearly as the convulsions and foam of the epileptic, which appeared to typify the insane person as the mask and speaking-trumpet of some divine being? by something that inspired even the bearer of the new thought with awe and fear of himself, and that, suppressing all remorse, drove him on to become its prophet and martyr?"

            Sounds like you missed modern science analysis of ascetic practices (Pic related). Opioids affect hypothalamus, moron. Not magic Guenon metaphysics.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The other idiosyncrasy of the philosophers is just as dangerous: they confuse what comes first with what comes last.

            Kind of like how circumcision is dangerous. Medical system mutilating penises just so that they hopefully don't jerk off in the future.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >on my girlfriend
    stopped reading there
    Gfs are built for hugs, kisses, creampies, and an occasional smattering of Rumi, not cold Prussian existentialism

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Atheism is a falsehood. The hard truth is that Hell is real.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Feminism is the only good thing happening from 200 years of democracy.
    Feminism is good because it destroys the grotesque male narrative that men are the stronger sex. The truth is that women sit at the top of the sex market. Women are sex capitalists. It's women who organize the competition . It's men who compete for women and not women who compete for men. So they are right to be very strict about the rules. And since they are the queens, and 99% of men just live to provide for them, they have the luxury of rebuking any male quest they want and imposing on men various duties.
    The even bigger picture is that Men never really managed to tame the female sexual cravings. Women cannot be contained in coats of conventions, the female sexual libido is too strong and too violent for this. A women is pure sexual energy. When she discovers this, when she peels off the phony social layers, she merges with her true whorish self and she will never ever be the same.
    This is why all societies are flawed inherently. And it doesn't help that all men are eager to please women sexually and non-sexually. democracy is even worse.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nietzsche wasn't an atheist, he was a Godless Christian. Such is also true of the vast majority of "atheists" who superficially reject theism while retaining the creation/creator dichotomy and the metaphor of universe as machine.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nietzsche wasn't an atheist, he was a Dionysian.
      Fixed it for you, no need to thank me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the metaphor of universe as machine
      "Let us beware of thinking that the world is a living being. Where would it stretch? What would it feed on? How could it grow and procreate? After all, we know roughly what the organic is; are we then supposed to reinterpret what is inexpressibly derivative, late, rare, accidental, which we perceive only on the crust of the earth, as something essential, common, and eternal, as those people do who call the universe an organism? This nauseates me. Let us beware even of believing that the universe is a machine; it is certainly not constructed to one end, and the word 'machine' pays it far too high an honour."

      "Let us beware of saying that there are laws in nature. There are only necessities: there is no one who commands, no one who obeys, no one who transgresses. Once you know that there are no purposes, you also know that there is no accident; for only against a world of purposes does the word 'accident' have a meaning."

      >retaining the creation/creator dichotomy
      "Let us beware of saying that death is opposed to life. The living is only a form of what is dead, and a very rare form. Let us beware of thinking that the world eternally creates new things. There are no eternally enduring substances; matter is as much of an error as the god of the Eleatics. But when will we be done with our caution and care? When will all these shadows of god no longer darken us? When will we have completely de-deified nature? When may we begin to naturalize humanity with a pure, newly discovered, newly redeemed nature?"

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do left wing lunatics keep posting pics of that left wing lunatic in their "epic dab" obvious falseflag posts?

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