What are some essential system programs this doesn't come installed with? I want to install it for the first time.

What are some essential system programs this doesn't come installed with? I want to install it for the first time.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    literally everything tbh

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      does it come with things like ssh, samba, text readers ? how barebones is it?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It comes with the absolute barebones needed to install it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the base package doesn't even have a kernel

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      STUPID homosexual IT DOESNT COME WITH ANYTHING

      It comes with the absolute barebones needed to install it.

      let me guess, you "need" more?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      STUPID homosexual IT DOESNT COME WITH ANYTHING

      It comes with the absolute barebones needed to install it.

      >whats systemd

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bloat

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what is systemd

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Microshart EEE project to sabotage Linux

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Spyware

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are you stupid or what?

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    STUPID homosexual IT DOESNT COME WITH ANYTHING

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >gdm
    >gnome-shell
    >gnome-terminal
    >gnome-control-center
    >nautilus
    >xdg-desktop-portal-gnome
    >xdg-user-dirs
    >gst-plugins-good
    >tlp //if notebook
    >git
    >yay
    >ungoogled-chromium
    >visual-studio-code //if dev
    This is everything a professional adult need to be productive.
    Anything else is bloat and/or troonyware.
    "Ricing" is for homosexuals and mentally ill individuals, and as so is not a valid use case.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Gnome mentioned
      have a nice day

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Prove you're not a midtwit.
        Are you even capable of explaining why "MUH GNOME BAD" without sounding like you're trying too hard to fit in with virgins and trannoids in this board?
        >Verification not required.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't like gnome

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What is the use case for GNOME?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would you use a display manager over xinit? You see the login screen for 2 seconds and it's arguably more useful as a tty.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > yay
      Paru is clearly superior

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh professhunal adult
      Touch grass.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gnome
      yikes
      >chrome
      yikes
      >vscode
      yikes

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >gnome
        yes
        >gnome-terminal
        use kitty
        >vscode
        frickoff, use neovim or emacs if you're desperate.

        why are you so butthurt about the true white man's text editor?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gnome
      yes
      >gnome-terminal
      use kitty
      >vscode
      frickoff, use neovim or emacs if you're desperate.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >professional adult
      kek

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You don't get paid for being an adult?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          No. I'm paid to be creative and full of energy, like a child.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      paru

      >gnome-shell
      i3, sway or gtfo

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Tiling window managers are unusable trash. If memory usage is a concern, stick to a standalone floating wm such as Window Maker or JWM.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Tiling window managers are unusable trash
          skill issue

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            If a window manager requires "skill" to use, it sucks.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            is your keyboard useless because it took time before you could use it well?

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What are some essential system programs this doesn't come installed with?
    I mean, if you come across something you need that isn't installed by default, just install it. That's what you'd do on literally any other system.

    The only real 'gotcha' I can recall from a standard Arch install is that the standard KDE meta package is frankly a little too barebones, and so it is easy to miss some things there. You'll probably want to also go ahead and install kdialog (for the KDE filepicker), spectacle (for screenshots), and the optional dependencies for Dolphin: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dolphin . I also like to install okular (the KDE document reader). Install a backend for your firewall if you want to enable it (like ufw) and system-config-printer if you have a printer. Lastly, you'll want to change the default theme/cursor for SDDM: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/SDDM#Theme_settings

    This all is really only relevant if you're installing KDE via archinstall, though. I'm pretty sure the xfce meta package has pretty much everything in it (other than maybe xfce4-goodies, I don't remember).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they finally improved the kde archinstall stuff recently. i used it when i couldn't be assed to move an arch installation to a new drive.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It has nothing until you install it either manually or by using archinstall script. Better do some research first. It's up to you want to install.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    install shit as needed. bluez-utils and bluez are essential tho, not sure why Arch doesn't ship with fricking bluetooth

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      iirc archinstall install all the essential shit including bluetooth and printer drivers

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        While avoiding the very unessential kernel.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. You should be running Arch in a container anyway.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >not sure why Arch doesn't ship with fricking bluetooth
      Your machine may not support Bluetooth or you may not want to use it at all.
      >hurr it should have it it should """just werk"""
      Switch to a different distribution. You are not part of the target audience and there is nothing wrong with it.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Your machine may not support Bluetooth or you may not want to use it at all.

        fair point but users with all-bluetooth peripherals are fricked OOTB.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          If you managed to somehow install Arch on the target machine, you also have the means to install bluez right after bootstrapping.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://popcon.debian.org/by_inst
    debian has a list of popular packages whynot use that

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yay, firefox, wine-staging, vlc, libva-mesa-driver, steam, kde-graphics

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Might as well just use endevouros

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nothing if you do it right
    run archinstall and it asks you what you want installed from drop-down menus, eg DE, display drivers, extra repos and software

    i have a saved archinstall config that installs everything I need including gnome extensions and syncs my .conf folder from my server

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not counting linux, linux-firmware and base, then it would be: base-devel, vim, network-manager, neofetch
    Everything else is bloat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Giving a shit about "bloat"
      >Installs neofetch
      Reddit troony. Go back

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Bishounen Tanteidan

    a desktop environment/a window manager

    if you choose a DE then you can install that DE's receptive software suite (multimedia/text editor/file manager) which is enough most of the time

    However, if you go with a WM you'll have to install your choice of software depending on your preference (which you can also do with a DE but it will be redundant or you will have to uninstall the DE's software suite)

    Other stuff you will probably need to install might include fonts, codecs, driver, etc.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a desktop environment/a window manager
      Aren't you supposed to list something useful?
      WiFi and guis are satanic, there's a good reason why the arch dev team (PBUH) didn't include this in their infinite wisdom

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        honestly they should take a page out of terry's book at just get rid of the whole network stack. computers are for communicating to god, not other people or systems

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >essential system programs this doesn't come installed with
    None. Everything that is essential is installed already.
    That's the point.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based, who needs wifi in 2024

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        literally no one. there's enough ethernet cable in existence to wrap the surface of the planet several times over.

        let me guess. you need more?

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    archinstall takes care of most but you need wifi drivers, vim, web browser and an aur helper you can add the rest later. if you don't pick a DE there's a lot of little things like pavucontrol and whatnot you might want

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You need more?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >coreutils
      bloat detected

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah I need cowsay so I can enjoy those witty quotes every time I log on

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      the interesting thing about this package list is that its pretty much what you get if you follow the LFS/systemd book

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    network manager unironically
    don't forget to install that shit or you will get to chroot back in because you can't connect to wifi
    i don't quite remember but it might not come with sudo installed by default either

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah the default install doesn't come with internet, or a fricking firewall either.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I distinctly remember spending a couple hours on setting up user groups and sudo and shit

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    tlp
    base
    base-devel

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't come with anything. Most people install "base" which includes the kernel, gnu coreutils, pacman and that shit and grub/systemd boot so you can boot into arch linux.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >programs
    go back to windows
    now.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Bro, arch doesn't come with absolutely anything installed, even the fricking kernel is optional.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      what's the point of it then? why not install gentoo or linux from scratch instead of dunce cap OS ?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Neither of them can be installed in 30 minutes with a simple script.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Arch is a deliberately simple distribution, it's stated on their homepage. Simple as in "not complex".

        Gentoo, on thr other hand, introduces a massive layer of complexity on top of your system. Just look at Portage FEATURES. In fact, Gentoo systems generally have more software installed since you also need build-time dependencies to build packages. Yes, you can remove them, but you'll have to reinstall them again at the next update so there is little point. And while this is a relatively minor annoyance, Portage is incredibly slow.

        LFS has a different issue, but ultimately still a cause of complexity: you are responsible for the entirety of system administration, including packaging and upgrading software. Certainly an instructive experience, but not sustainable for almost anyone,

        On Arch, installation is a matter of running a couple scripts (yes, it's simple and that's the point) and upgrading the system is a single command.

        Likewise, being a binary distribution, build-time dependencies are not required. Packages are deliberately not split to avoid confusion: library packages, for instance, contain the shared objects, headers and even documentation. On Debian, these would be at least 3 packages.

        Arch is not a "minimal" or "sekrit klub" and never tried to be, those are nonsense spread around by ecelebs and idiots on thr internet. The whole point of Arch is being a no-nonsense distro with a simple design and the latest versions of software.

        As a consequence, Arch is arguably the easiest distribution to use for an experienced GNU/Linux user, and that's why I use it: it doesn't hold your hand, but it doesn't get in the way either.

        I do wish it had a stable branch, though, but it's unlikely to ever happen since being bleeding edge is one of Arch's stated goals.

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    redpill me on arch? if i used linux years ago i just went for some debian or fedora distro.. and today i see the most shill is arch

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