what causes this?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because the Catholics believe in filioque and (generally) orthodox don't

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Filioque is one part of it - Catholics think Orthos believe the same thing as them, Orthos know it's not so. But as far as I can tell the largest part of it is that Orthos like to take a more mystical approach and Catholics like to take a more intellectual one. Intelligence likes to think that mysticism is its immature weaker friend but from the POV of mysticism, intelligence is a problem-solving tool that likes to idolize itself. That's why one is warm towards the other but the other is really careful about the one.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Orthodox also criticize Catholic mysticism e.g. Francis of Assisi / Teresa of Avila as being prelest, or spiritually delusional

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Do we? I've read bits of Teresa and I didn't find any fault with her but I'm no authority on the matter.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think Orthos don't really care about being the universal church, even if it proclaims so. They are nationalistic, very political, chuddy and territorial and they essentially don't give a frick of what happens outside of what they perceive it's their turf.
    The Catholics still want to be the true universal church and to bring back the schismatics so it act nicer towards them.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Orthodox don't know about Protestants. That's why.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Catholics want to try to present themselves as the original church to Protestants, but the existence of the Orthodox serves as a hard counter to this so Catholics try to pretend that Orthodox are Catholics

    • 2 months ago
      Cult of Passion

      >officially the Orthodox Catholic Church
      Womp womp.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ecumenicalism is solved

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I still don't understand/know what the frick a filioque is or what it means to disagree about it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Quibbling over the nature of the Godhead. Trinitarian stuff. The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father. Catholics add "and the Son" to keep Father and Son equal. Orthodox do not.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Quibbling
        >over the nature of the Godhead
        >nature of the Godhead
        >Quibbling

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Catholics used to say no too. Ecumenism became popular in the Catholic Church after Vatican II, but its still considered controversial in the East. That said, I think if it was just the Ecumenical Patriarch calling the shots the Orthodox answer would be yes as well.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The papists are innovators. They banned priest marriages, invented the filioque, abandoned the wise mysticism of Orthodoxy in favor of empirio-legalistic mental masturbation and worst of all they invented the rank of pope and blamed innocent Photius for all four of the patriarchs for not bending the knee to papal megalomania. Francis's I'll is getting what's coming to them with each shameful concession they make to the degenerates and profligates, Lord please I beg of you do not have mercy just yet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Francis's ilk

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I ducking hate autocorrect

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Me too!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Asking to have evil things happening to others? Begging for God to not have mercy? Dunno which kind of Christian you are but you better repent while you can.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Read the parable of the minas.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I read it. Execution was ordered by the king after he came back. I don't think Jesus came back yet. For now we don't take justice in our own hands. Jesus said to love your enemies and do not judge others. Begging for God to not have mercy, when he is infinitely merciful, is probably some kind of blasphemy too. You're only supposed to ask of God things that proceed from him, which are good things. Evil cannot come from him.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I will never get over how the Orthodox have deluded themselves into thinking their church contains no changes or innovations. Even Catholics are not that obtuse.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Defeating evil is not evil. Papist sympathizers are not doing good.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Falsehood tries to claim truth is on its side. You can pepper falsehood with some truth, it wouldn't change its essence. But diluting truth with falsehood is different, it is no longer truth, but falsehood.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which star trek character is Calvinism?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the ship computer

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That donut portal from the original series that sends the crew back to the 1930s

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't really have a dog in this fight but I do wonder about how much more or less unified Christianity would be if the ecumenical councils were less exclusionary. What would have happened if they let, for example, Arius do his thing. Would it have led to a later, worse crisis? Or would you have gotten a more 'universal' church that allows more diversity of opinion on certain mysteries provided said opinions are rationally founded and don't massively screw up the worship for everybody else.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What would have happened if they let, for example, Arius do his thing
      This presupposes the ecumenical councils aren't providentially guided by God.
      >provided said opinions are rationally founded
      The Church never cared about this though. Only about doctrines being apostolic, they always use this to say why the heretics are condemned, that they are proclaiming the faith of the apostles and the fathers.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Probably important to enforce everyone being on the same page for longevity of the Church too. Diversity of opinion sounds nice and all until the Arians and Trinitarians go to war. Probably inevitable even if they are somehow functionally identical from a worship and ethics perspective.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    how to escape picrel?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Acknowledge that no matter what you believe, there will always be a leap of faith somewhere. Continue working hard, being honest with yourself and striving to do the best you can with your limited knowledge set.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Then Jesus said to those israelites who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >believe in the me who believes in you

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