What do they want, exactly?

What do they want, exactly?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The same thing as the israelites.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They want to build sovereignty

  3. 2 weeks ago
    JWanon

    Gay orgies

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's easy:

    Let us have harmony, so say we all.

    Peace, love and harmony, so say we all

    Join us in harmony, so say we all.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Basically whatever the current order is

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They do something with pugs I think

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kabbalistic magic cult.
    https://sacred-texts.com/mas/md/md33.htm

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    occult anti-catholicism

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To accumulate wealth and power for themselves and fellow Masons, at the cost of non-Masons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally anyone can become a Mason, the only real requirement is you have to believe in some kind of God

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To provide cover for antisocial/revolutionary groups and individuals, occasionally to cover for deviants of all stripes, oppose the Catholic Church (less important now since they’ve infiltrated), give members premium insurance deals, all while masking with charity dinners and children’s hospitals (bc if you’re a sick adult who’s not a professed brother, you can go frick yourself)

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure at some point it was literally just a guild of skilled tradesmen.

    Now?.... Well - nothing stays sacred, for long.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      An establishment of a kings court, without the king. I need to read up on investigations and case studies of cults.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    little boys

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic_Child_Identification_Programs

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To erect the third temple and bring back the mesiah. The original masons have been long obliterated, and you now only have the sabatean/jesuits influenced ones than get any power. The other loges are mostlu social clubs. Tough mason and mason like organitzation still have some power, its weakening fast as the NWO is making its onw new orgs.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Books on freemasonry? Preferably by ex-masons who had a neutral or antagonistic relationship with the order.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't know
    >he's unaware
    >he's confused
    >he lacks the necessary information
    >he's not on the level
    >he knows not
    >he has no mental knowledge
    >he's been duped
    I really have no idea why you people think we're some kind of pizzagate doomsday jesuit cult. You never see this kind of shit with the Kiwanis or the Odd Fellows.
    >verification not required

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do you guys talk about
      Not a conspiracy theorist, genuinely interested.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We spend a solid 50% of every monthly meeting talking about paying our utility bills. One time, half the brethren got into a really heated argument about how much of our budget to assign to veteran's day parade. There are no political discussions in the lodge room, that's one of the fraternity's rules.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The political activities seem to come from the main lodges that have actual important people in them to network in. I don't think some Lodge in Alabama is worth a damn.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the main lodges that have actual important people in them to network in
            I cannot stress enough the fact that the "main lodges" - and maybe by this you mean the Grand Lodges at the state level, we don't have national organization - draw from the local lodges, and even then, it's a volunteer position. There are no champagne parties and caviar orgies, it's blue collar guys all the way up. It's the same with the appendant bodies, too. The 33rd degree guys people are always raving about are just the ones who have the most time to sit behind a desk and handle tech support requests from guys even older than they are.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Unlike in the US, France has several groupings of masonic lodges, called Obédiences. On the Left there is the Grand Orient de France (GODF), the largest of these groupings, which accepts atheists and recently women. They are closely linked to the Conseil Représentatif des Institutions juives de France (Representative Council of French israeli Institutions, CRIF), France’s Anti-Defamation League, and also play an anti-Christian role in France similar to the American Civil Liberties Union in the US. Trotskyites have tried, en masse, to infiltrate and turn lodges of the GODF, and — perhaps surprisingly — the GODF publicly rooted them out in the 1990s. The film Forces Occultes and the “Judeo-Masonic Conspiracy” are based on the GODF. Its international affiliates are strongest in Catholic countries and, in the early 20th century, have been linked to atrocities against Catholic clergy.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Now I understand your problem. You're unaware of the schism between Anglo-American and Continental Freemasonry. We (American lodges, English lodges, and the overwhelming majority of Masons the world over) have no affiliation with those organizations. Ties were cut for reasons you mention in your post - they take political stances, they invite atheists and women. And this goes back centuries, to around the time of the French Revolution. It's like saying Denmark and Finland are the same because they were both once under the Kalmar Union.
            >But they say they're Freemasons!
            How many different countries have claimed to be the true heirs of Rome?
            I may be unable to convince you that Freemasonry is, in fact, merely a charitable organization, but I hope you're not dumb enough to think your local lodge is the front for a shadow cabal of French communists.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're right, but the Anglo lodges were subversive forces as well. Mostly speaking this is well known already. Speculative Freemasonry is respectable, but pretending it's not used as a political and subversive force is ridiculous, just historically speaking.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We'll agree to disagree.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of powerful people were freemasons and a few still are.

      Business cliques and cartels at least don't pretend to be anything but lowkey criminal enterprises acting in pure self-interest, however you try to create a little following and community around it, no doubt pitted against the wider community. It is far more sinister.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >no doubt pitted against the wider community
        We're a charitable organization. We cannot legally make profit on the brethren's dues or donations so we have to give away everything we don't use for keeping the lights on. Hell a couple years ago we gave $7,000 to the local fire department so that we could keep our charity status.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      First, have you ever found any interesting Mason books that you (theoretically) could not get if you weren't a Mason?

      Second, while your opinion on the current state of Masonry is quite clear (and for what it's worth I, due to occurrences in my own life that no one cares about, agree with you) ,in your opinion what was the "point" of Masonry in an intellectual sense before it became, well, what it is today? Or, do you think that this is always what it's been, people just used to care about social clubs more?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >interesting Mason books
        Not really. Most lodges do have a small library, but most of it is usually just old memberships records and copies of the standards. What I can recommend you, and anyone else interested, are Born in Blood and The Pilgrim's Path by John Robinson. They tell different perspectives of the fraternity, and they're very contemporary. You could also try getting your hands on a PDF of Morals and Dogma - but you should know ahead of time that most of it is plagiarized from European occultists, and does not reflect modern Scottish Rite practice.4
        >the point of Masonry
        It is true that people used to care more about social clubs, especially "powerful" people. In the 1920s, after the end of WWI, social clubs and fraternities really took off at all levels of American society. That's how you got guys like Henry Ford initiated into Freemasonry. I doubt Elon Musk or some other modern analogue would give half a shit. If there was ever a point to it beyond community service, there would be two: self-improvement through philosophical teaching and social engagement, and participating in what has always been advertized as an ancient and honorable society of men.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They preserve, guard and teach the forbidden knowledge given to men by the fallen watchers.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Philosemitic garbage that needs to be destroyed

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ~~*Brother*~~ Theodore drops his thoughts

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That was before Masonry was completely corrupted. It’s awful today. I would never join a Lodge, many of them are basically Secret Societies engaged in some sort of criminality

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it denounces ignorance, superstition, bigotry, list tyranny and despotism
      the founders of the kkk were all free masons

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's just influence peddling and nepotism hidden behind some esotericism masquerade. it's not that deep really

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Somewhere between Satanic and uncomfortable paganism, I don't like em, but these are just my gut emotions from seeing videos here and there. I don't think they are up to anything good, beware.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They want bricklayers to work for free

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They want to survive the next deluge and use their technology to become gods in the eyes of the few survivors of humanity. This isn't the first time this has happened.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like what the Mormons are up to.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your adrenochrome.

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