What do you think about Kierkegaard?

What do you think about Kierkegaard, IQfy?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Completely changed the way I thought about my own faith and religion as a whole. Also one of the few philosophers who write elegantly.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve rarely see him be hated on. He is a philosopher most people can find something to appreciate. However, ideologically limited for obvious reasons and that is why he is not as popular as he should be. Most comfy philosopher.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone who would want to read Kierkegaard is the type of person to get something out of it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, considering how IQfy threads can go, that is not always the case.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stil me. Works of Love is great. Recommend it to all.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Loathe him

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rare

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Leap of faith is sounds like bullshit that made from perspective of questioning christian man in very post-pagan society. Firstly, it's even up to debate if Abraham didn't kill Isaac, because of changes and this chapter being compiled from text by Yhwaist and Elohist, as is recon lamb part is made by Elohist. Secondly, in their region it was quite common to sacrifice firstborn son and it's questioning if there even was even leap, maybe just faith and many people were okay with sacrifice and cared about firstborn as to a cattle - with love, care, and readiness to kill for profit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Idiot

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a retelling of the Iphigenia myth, written late under Greek influence, see Russell Gmirkin.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hard to read but I get the gist of what he’s saying

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good.
    The idea of sacrificing oneself into the greater unknown is philosophically worthwhile since it's a humbling admission of Something greater than you.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was right about journalists

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        γρηγορεύω
  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i think his influence on camus is underestimated.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How is it underestimated? Camus frequently refers to Kierkegaard in MoS and while they are disagreement, it seems evident there is a healthy respect from Camus to Kierkegaard.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kept talking about Hegel in Either/Or so I gave up. Sickness Unto Death was good though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sickness Unto Death was more than good, one of the rare books that I could feel change the person I was in real time while reading

      Also Practice in Christianity is great

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sickness Unto Death was more than good, one of the rare books that I could feel change the person I was in real time while reading

      Also Practice in Christianity is great

      how does sickness compare to fear and trembling?
      its in my tbr list because i found fear and trembling great even if a tad confusing at parts (im ESL, cringe ik), is it as easy to grasp or is it closer to the monolith that is either/or? i couldn't get far into that one.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have not read Either/Or nor Fear and Trembling, only those two mentioned here

        Sickness Unto Death was more than good, one of the rare books that I could feel change the person I was in real time while reading

        Also Practice in Christianity is great

        Obviously the subject matter requires you to reread some passages, but overall I got through it quite well.

        The problem is Kierkegaard doesn't really have a solution.

        t. couldnt make the leap

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Knight of Infinite Resignation is literally me

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    refuted by Kafka

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is Kierkegaard doesn't really have a solution.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What an illiterate post. Yes he does: Give up your life for God and become a Christian. That's literally the conclusion he basis almost all his writing on. He's an apologist. Read about his main ideas, the leap of faith and the knight of faith.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/eezvLe7.jpg

        I have not read Either/Or nor Fear and Trembling, only those two mentioned here [...]

        Obviously the subject matter requires you to reread some passages, but overall I got through it quite well.

        [...]
        t. couldnt make the leap

        >Give up your life for God
        >make the leap
        Lose yourself, not be your own, but give away your life to God? Seems to conflict with his project, does it not? If you're handing yourself over to idols then why not mammon, your job, your fiance, boss etc., why is the idol called God any different to all the other idols that would take us over and instrumentalise our lives, and steal our life from us? That's the conflict. To lose yourself is the very worst of crimes, but to lose yourself to God becomes, through the magic of this one particular idol, the highest virtue. Hence Kierkegaard has no real solution.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I already saw a guy comparing his writing to Jesus Christ,s touching.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not religious in the slightest but I still found his philosophy to be very valuable.
    The concept of "levelling" he talks about and his ideas of despair seem rampant these days.
    I know that basically all philosophers clumsily reference other "intellectual" media to give themselves ethos but he was pretty bad about it.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I had a cat named after him in the 90s - RIP little friend T_T

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I barely even understood one idea in "Fear and Trembling," I guess I should've familiarized myself with Hegel first.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There was some Reddit thread where a student said he convinced a teacher that understanding Kierkegaard without Hegel is impossible. Kinda funny, but bad for me because I’ve read a lot of Kierkegaard and very little Hegel.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    γρηγορεύω

    "Endless volumes have been written to show how one is to recognize what true Christianity is. This can be done in a far simpler way. Nature is acoustic. Pay attention to what the echo answers, and you will know at once what is what.

    "When one preaches Christianity in such a way that the echo answers: "Glorious, profound, brilliant, articulate Christian, you should be exalted with high praise," know that this signifies that this preaching is a base lie. Though it is not absolutely certain that he who walks with chains around his ankles is in fact a criminal (for there are many cases when the powers that be have condemned an innocent man), it is eternally certain that he who by preaching Christianity wins honor and prestige is a liar, a deceiver, who at one point or another has falsified the truth. It is simple: It is impossible to preach Christianity in truth without having to suffer for it in this world.

    "When one preaches Christianity in such a way that the echo answers, "He is mad," or "What nonsense," know then there are considerable elements of truth in his preaching. However, this is still not the Christianity of the New Testament. He may have hit the mark, but he does not press hard enough, especially not by the preaching of his life.

    "But when one preaches Christianity in such a way that the echo answers, "Away with that man, he does not deserve to live," know that this is the Christianity of the New Testament.

    "Capital punishment is the penalty for preaching Christianity as it truly is. Does Christ s life indicate anything different? Hating oneself to love God; hating everything in which one s life consists, everything to which human beings cling. Capital punishment is the penalty for preaching Christianity in character. Preaching less, appealing to forms of the interesting, the relevant, or the controversial, is nothing but a religious falsification."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Damn this hits like a truck. Reading Bloy right now, he has much that is similar. I wonder if he knew of Kierkegaard tho, since he had such an incredibly low opinion of the Danes.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's possibly the most underrated genius in the entire history of the West. I think some of the implicit conclusions of his thought have entirely escaped the notice of modern thinkers.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if he met nietz that would have been hilarious
    if he was secular he wouldve been even better

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fact he wasnt is what makes him good

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he couldnt gst ovsr the fear of failure (his fiancee) and the opinion of other people (the press) so he decided to throw his life away. theists robbed history of yet another superb individual.
        a man of great integrity and intelligence but he had the wrong object of desire

        • 3 weeks ago
          γρηγορεύω

          No meaning detected.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            meaning = theism claims another victim. he wouldve been much greater and more successful if he chose Athens over Jerusalem

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Athens chose Jerusalem

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Athens could not explain the world without Jerusalem, at the time. Natural science explains phenomena better than Christianity

            Kierkegaard wasn't a Christian.

            Namegays will be shot

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Natural science never contradicted Christianity. Imo it just strengthens it
            Athens thought there was a God before Christianity. Ever read Plato, Aristotle, the Stoics, etc.?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that is a tripgay, newbie. get your gays right

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            Kierkegaard wasn't a Christian.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He most certainly was.

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            Evidence?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >only the Christian knows what is to be intended with "the sickness unto death"
            i forget the exact quote, can anyone help me find it?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's a commonly known fact. Kierkegaard was a turbo-Christian. He was the first existentialist and the first Christian existentialist. Most of his philosophy is driven by the fact that Europe was becoming apostate. Read William Barret's Irrational Man. Also read Kierkegaard.

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            "Regarding Kierkegaard, since he did tend to use the word "God" a lot in his writings, a number of modern Christians (eg, the "Sea of Faith" crowd) tend to see him as a Christian, and they turn a blind eye to all of his anti-Christian writings.

            "That was a fault in Kierkegaard. He should have made his case much clearer."

            -Kevin Solway

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Show his writings then, not a quote
            You seem to be just regurgitating hearsay

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            "Christianity is the kind of orthodoxy that is hearty twaddle. Mediocrity with a dash of sugar. What we have come to call Christianity is precisely what Christ came to abolish."

            "God can involve himself with the human race on one of two conditions, either in such a way that individuals are found who are willing to venture out so far in hating themselves that God can use them as apostles, or in such a way that the true situation is honestly and unconditionally admitted. The latter is my primitivity.

            "As far as the former is concerned, this is certainly the instruction of the New Testament. But with respect to venturing out so far, the following must be noted. This is something so dreadful for a human being that it is permissible to say: I dare not."

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A simple wikipedia article dismantles all of that by giving it context. Shocking!

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            >wikipedia
            lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            >wikipedia
            lol

            Wikipedia or any similar encyclopedic source isn't the final say on *anything*.

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            If Kiekegaard wrote those things it proves that:

            a) He wrote anti-Christian things.

            b) His conception of a Christian is someone who is an apostle and is put to death (see also

            "Endless volumes have been written to show how one is to recognize what true Christianity is. This can be done in a far simpler way. Nature is acoustic. Pay attention to what the echo answers, and you will know at once what is what.

            "When one preaches Christianity in such a way that the echo answers: "Glorious, profound, brilliant, articulate Christian, you should be exalted with high praise," know that this signifies that this preaching is a base lie. Though it is not absolutely certain that he who walks with chains around his ankles is in fact a criminal (for there are many cases when the powers that be have condemned an innocent man), it is eternally certain that he who by preaching Christianity wins honor and prestige is a liar, a deceiver, who at one point or another has falsified the truth. It is simple: It is impossible to preach Christianity in truth without having to suffer for it in this world.

            "When one preaches Christianity in such a way that the echo answers, "He is mad," or "What nonsense," know then there are considerable elements of truth in his preaching. However, this is still not the Christianity of the New Testament. He may have hit the mark, but he does not press hard enough, especially not by the preaching of his life.

            "But when one preaches Christianity in such a way that the echo answers, "Away with that man, he does not deserve to live," know that this is the Christianity of the New Testament.

            "Capital punishment is the penalty for preaching Christianity as it truly is. Does Christ s life indicate anything different? Hating oneself to love God; hating everything in which one s life consists, everything to which human beings cling. Capital punishment is the penalty for preaching Christianity in character. Preaching less, appealing to forms of the interesting, the relevant, or the controversial, is nothing but a religious falsification."

            ) but he didn't consider himself and apostle and wasn't put to death so therefore according to his definitnion he wasn't a Christian.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What nonsense. Try not to be such a literalist in your efforts to deracinate the West from its Christian roots.

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            You are a failed human being, unworthy of life.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            HA! THE COPE! When a man has to resort to such pathetic efforts, it is clear he has no wisdom at his disposal. Hilarious!

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            You are a failed human being, unworthy of life.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            With every reiteration, you mock yourself and accede the loss. Thanks for your enlightened judgement, oh internet wizard.

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            Whatever you say, chief!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >advocating Christ
            >advocating the New Testament
            Yes, he's clearly Christian.

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            He certainly had an attachment to Christianity. However as he came to understand it throughout his life he realized what it meant and required and concluded he couldn't be a Christian.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's too late for conversation. You've already lost. Time to go and read now. By talking to me again, after claiming I'm unworthy of life, you've doubled down on your failures.

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            It's an observation. Few people are worthy of life.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            With every reiteration, you mock yourself and accede the loss. Thanks for your enlightened judgement, oh internet wizard.

            Anons, please, don't stoop so low to try and debate a moronic tripgay. Be thankful he uses a trip and can be filtered.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            William Barret contradicts your sources--making them pointless.

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            My sources are what Kiekegaard himself wrote. How does one "contradict" a primary source? Your post is meaningless.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Those were not primary. You posted him after and I addressed it. You're wrong, but like all anti-Christs you'll cling to whatever hope you can in your efforts to remove faith from the West.

          • 3 weeks ago
            γρηγορεύω

            You are a failed human being, unworthy of life.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Slave morality. Childish, immature, cowardly. Loath him.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based.

      Kierkegaard is an attempt by the forces of Christendom to reinforce their hegemonic moral superstructure in our society by a more intellectual means. Nihilistic attempt to preserve the weakly constituted, should be attacked.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You’re boring. Take the gold and run, whatever you read.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      I might hold him in such contempt partly because one of my ex' was very much into him and she's literally the personification of those attributes.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ultimately misguided in that traditional religion is no longer viable in modern society. It's just that there is no real alternative and that is the tragedy of our age. Nietzsche was the closest to coming up with a substitute but even that failed as it was a future plan not one to address the here and now.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All I know about him is one of my friends got angry that none of our friend group knew about him outside of Victoria 2, then same friend starting ranted about how Slavic Nihilism has triumphed and how that was disgusting and how he hated slavs more than Chinese

    He's German btw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >then same friend starting ranted about how Slavic Nihilism has triumphed and how that was disgusting and how he hated slavs more than Chinese
      Based
      TSV

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