What is dark soul of book

What is dark soul of book
Where the character really is just alone for nearly all of it exploding and confronting all kinds of things physical and metaphysical

Like Divine Comedy if there was no virgil

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Night Land?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Berserk, it's just Berserk

      >and here I ate the tablets, and made the water...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dark Souls is good though.

      if you google any guide on writing a book whatsoever its gonna tell you not to do this.

      No doubt anyone who ever wrote anything at least looked at a how to write 101 or something and got fed propaganda on the 6-8 characters they need in their book or stuff like absolute minimum being main character, their enemy/whatever and a love interest and a side kick.

      You will struggle to build much plot if you only have one main character. He can travel, fight etc but not much else can happen. This is kind of the problem conan the barbarian books run into, they are good for a short dose but you cant read much of it as its really just travelling and fighting.

      Elden ring actually did a good job of having heaps of smaller characters who just appear in small doses. Just the minimum involvement to make a plot and keep it going. I think this is the only way but nobody has done it yet.

      One main character who is 90% of the story, the other 10% interactions with smaller characters in small doses. But the key thing is those interactions are important. The nature of a video game is the main character can spend ages fighting and its fun but in a book just reading about endless battles isnt so fun and it needs more plot action to keep it interesting.

      It would probably have to go into autistic dark pose and other shit like that to make it so stuff happens to break up the battles and travel and still keep it with only one character.

      Impeccable bait, I applaud you sir!

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you google any guide on writing a book whatsoever its gonna tell you not to do this.

    No doubt anyone who ever wrote anything at least looked at a how to write 101 or something and got fed propaganda on the 6-8 characters they need in their book or stuff like absolute minimum being main character, their enemy/whatever and a love interest and a side kick.

    You will struggle to build much plot if you only have one main character. He can travel, fight etc but not much else can happen. This is kind of the problem conan the barbarian books run into, they are good for a short dose but you cant read much of it as its really just travelling and fighting.

    Elden ring actually did a good job of having heaps of smaller characters who just appear in small doses. Just the minimum involvement to make a plot and keep it going. I think this is the only way but nobody has done it yet.

    One main character who is 90% of the story, the other 10% interactions with smaller characters in small doses. But the key thing is those interactions are important. The nature of a video game is the main character can spend ages fighting and its fun but in a book just reading about endless battles isnt so fun and it needs more plot action to keep it interesting.

    It would probably have to go into autistic dark pose and other shit like that to make it so stuff happens to break up the battles and travel and still keep it with only one character.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dark pose?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think he meant "dark prose"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally BoTNS

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Book of the New Sun and Conan are the two I can think of that would most satisfy OPs desire but really nothing fits the bill because that is simply not how literature works as an artform.
        It works great in a video game because in that medium the only soulful interaction is that between the player and the world the game maker has created to be their playground. Recognizing this and focusing solely on it while other game companies spent decades spinning their wheels trying to turn games into movies is a big part of Miyazakis genius, but it is intrinsically tied to the medium.
        In a book you need characters for the protagonist to bounce off of, not only to keep it from being boring as frick but also because a book needs to more closely mirror reality. If a video game character never food its saving you from dealing with a tedious mechanic. If a novel character never needs food it can slowly break your immersion completely.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It seems like a weird limitation of literature that we can't literally depict solitude or make fighting interesting

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It seems like a weird limitation of literature that we can't literally depict solitude
            What the frick are you even talking about

            >or make fighting interesting
            What you refer to as 'fighting' is video game mechanics, i.e. repetitive mechanical tasks designed to be executed by a player. You play video games if you want that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your post genuinely feel like it has nothing to do with what I wrote despite you quoting me

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It does. You said literature can't depict solitude which is simply bullshit. You also want to play videogames instead of reading books.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't say it can't though. I wrote that as a response to that poster not as my own claim.
            >you also want to play games
            No I don't though. I don't like games at all
            Are you ESL? I think you've seriously misread what I wrote.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if you google any guide on writing a book whatsoever its gonna tell you not to do this.
      and as we all know writing is about following rules and doing what everyone tells you

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yup YUP
        experimental stories tend to fricking suck for a reason

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Have fun reading the same book with a different title 700 times

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do all stories really need a plot? And why do you assume it would involve fighting at all?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Same poster. I meant to say with my first question:
        Do stories really need a plot more complex than: "the character is walking to the local grocery store" and having the content of the story only involve conversations the main character has with people along the way, thinking to himself, descriptions of his environment, and descriptions of the local area?
        Sorry.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Cult of Passion

        >Do all stories really need a plot?
        No.

        Plots are just excuses for scene portrayal...and if your scenes are good enough nobody will care they dont know whats going on.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What is scene portrayal?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/KelppVA.jpg

        Same poster. I meant to say with my first question:
        Do stories really need a plot more complex than: "the character is walking to the local grocery store" and having the content of the story only involve conversations the main character has with people along the way, thinking to himself, descriptions of his environment, and descriptions of the local area?
        Sorry.

        https://i.imgur.com/645IKZD.gif

        >Do all stories really need a plot?
        No.

        Plots are just excuses for scene portrayal...and if your scenes are good enough nobody will care they dont know whats going on.

        Most writing guides and english teachers and professors would say a book about a man who spends all of it in bed alone for the most part is a bad idea, or that an autobiography where the ending is the character/author is finally getting to his own birth is a bad idea.

        But you know, they worked.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >a book about a man who spends all of it in bed alone for the most part is a bad idea
          Kafka's Metamorphosis?
          >or that an autobiography where the ending is the character/author is finally getting to his own birth is a bad idea.
          ????

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >kfka?
            Oblomov
            >??
            Tristram Shandy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you!
            >Tristram Shandy
            Oh I heard of that years ago from the video below on computer games. It seems I should move the pictureske genre readings up in my backlog.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I got some things wrong in my hazy memory and it affected my hasty simplification of the stories but they are still good books.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When you say that, what is your understanding of what "plot" is?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if you google any guide on writing a book whatsoever its gonna tell you not to do this.
      Literally, who gives a frick. Imagine Beckett or Joyce listened to shit like this.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Survival and nature lit is probably the closest you will find, fairly often they are mostly or completely just one person out in the woods confronting physical and metaphysical things but not much exploding going on these. I have a fondness for the books by the singlehanded sailors like picrel, he spent 10 months alone on his boat and went one and a half times around the world.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah anything nature is a good bet. especially sailing stuff.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Check out the dream quest of unknown kadath, there’s no way that it didn’t provide a lot of inspiration for the series given some of the similarities

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Miyazaki has said his biggest inspirations have been:
      Ico and Shadow of the Colossus (literally inspired him to quit making accounting software and get a job making video games anywhere that would take him)
      Berserk and Devilman
      Lovecraft
      Song of Ice and Fire and Fevre Dream by grrm
      Sorcery! Adventure books by Steve Jackson
      Colin Wilson's The Occult
      Lord of the Rings
      Moorwieners Eternal Champion
      Legend of Zelda

      I wish he talked more about books, he's clearly read tons of fantasy but those are the only ones he's directly spoken of. I think Dark Sun was surely another inspiration (the angels of Dark Souls 3 look like Avangions imo).
      He's never referenced Howard but I'm sure he's read him. Would love to know if he's read Bakker.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's an executioner sword in Dark Souls 3 very similar to Terminus Est from BotNS, I really like to think Miyazaki as a based Wolfe-enjoyer

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The book you are looking for is Pessoa's The Book of Disquiet OP. It fits everything you said perfectly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/mLPdNII.jpg

        The book you are looking for is Pessoa's The Book of Disquiet OP. It fits everything you said perfectly.

        >Character alone nearly the entire book wandering through a lonely dreamy Lisbon sometimes encountering other people or having to do normal tasks which are described as if they were herculean difficult tasks, while very frequently musing about Philosophy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /thread

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      >Character alone nearly the entire book wandering through a lonely dreamy Lisbon sometimes encountering other people or having to do normal tasks which are described as if they were herculean difficult tasks, while very frequently musing about Philosophy.

      /thread

      >hysteria is the same as adventure
      maybe if you are a female who hit the wall lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Arrested development

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Filtered midwit

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What is dark soul of book

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what doth life?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > What is dark soul of book
    This should be dark, depressing, filled with feeling of being hopeless. There is should not be clear distinction between past or future, setting and plot should be given by small pieces that come to make sense at the end

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How are you going to provide plot in small pieces in a book?
      What do you fill the gaps between the small bits of plot with?
      You want the majority of the book just detailing a knight walking around and saying what he sees? This is the challenge of it.
      Somebody earlier said solo sailing works for a book because there would still be a series of challenges to overcome.
      I have dabbled in trying to write a dark souls style book but this is always where it runs into trouble.
      I don’t really associate dark souls with a 50 page trek over a mountain story.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gene Wolf's Book of the New Sun is the cloest you'll get.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      With regards to a dark soul book If it's an either-or I think I'd rather take the nearly always solitary character's wanderings route rather than sticking to the idea of a generally dark setting and used up world.
      But BOTNS is good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s so un dark souls though. When would your dark souls knight travel with a group of theatre performers joining in their plays?
      Why would you be travelling around in a dungeons and dragons style party with a group of people for most of it?
      When you eventually get to a fight far into the book they fight with flowers instead of swords.

      It’s like a modern world of Warcraft plot not dark souls.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He said Dark Souls not Black Souls.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >when you know

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          qrd

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Everything is a possible spoiler.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Convenient way to avoid proving the comparison is moronic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Starts like an ordinary fantasy, gets more off the wall and substantially increases in scale later.
            >Colorful cast of companions
            >MC with oneitis, but still fricks on the side.
            >MC is an amalgamotion of multiple people, and has to become a ruler in order to save the world
            >Meta themes of theatre and storytelling in the narrative.
            >Time frickery
            I'm not saying it's a perfect comparison, but it's definitely closer to Wolfe than Dark Souls.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Frick off back to /vrpg/, Black Souls isn't nearly as "deep" as you think it is.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally BoTNS

      Book of the New Sun and Conan are the two I can think of that would most satisfy OPs desire but really nothing fits the bill because that is simply not how literature works as an artform.
      It works great in a video game because in that medium the only soulful interaction is that between the player and the world the game maker has created to be their playground. Recognizing this and focusing solely on it while other game companies spent decades spinning their wheels trying to turn games into movies is a big part of Miyazakis genius, but it is intrinsically tied to the medium.
      In a book you need characters for the protagonist to bounce off of, not only to keep it from being boring as frick but also because a book needs to more closely mirror reality. If a video game character never food its saving you from dealing with a tedious mechanic. If a novel character never needs food it can slowly break your immersion completely.

      >has companions almost all the time
      >gets laid and has 10/10 women throwing themselves at him literally all the time
      >works, holds political stations, recounters even minor past companions many times

      Its not at all. Cugel's saga is much more accurate to this. Cugel himself is just a dex/int build

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        interesting

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there was that book with a red cover about knights and the french revolution and demons and the end of the world that IQfy recommended me when i asked the same question but it actually just sucked

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    While we're on this subject Whats a book with a character like Joshua Graham except better written and in a better story

    • 3 weeks ago
      Cult of Passion

      Gotchya fampie.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    jesus christ you are a moron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What offends you in particular

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If such a book was written, I imagine you could get away with it with a lot of musing. The MC recounting events or some such that has some kind of influence on them in the past, and is at least tangentially related to whatever is happening in front of them.
    Maybe you could even have dream sequences that break up the long journey with a foggy window to another time, or a chaotic nightmarish encounter within in mind as they battle their own demons

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    McCarthy's The Road is the Dark Souls of literature, despite not being fantasy and involving no fighting.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I asked ChatGPT and it told me this exact answer lol.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks chat

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Name a single book better than
    Planescape Torment
    Morrowind
    Silent hill 2
    Fallout new vegas

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you liked Silent Hill 2, you should definitely read Bruges-la-morte. Oh, and you can also add Disco Elysium to your list.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Planescape Torment
      Is just a glorified book.
      >Morrowind
      Vacuous trash
      >Silent Hill 2
      Read Poe.
      >Fallout New Vegas
      Troon

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    moron

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish I could write a book like this because I'm inhuman and can't write dialogs for the life of me

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No mention of Elric? Really I figured its something Dark Souls and Miyazaki fans would like but probably far too pulpy for them

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This game was meh. New games in general suck.
    Night Land is close.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >new

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a virgin!!!!!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Me too!!!

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd look into Phantastes by George MacDonald.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone made fun of me

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Darkness That Comes Before

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >everyone only has genre fiction
    Its over

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah what's with all the fantasy shit

      Because Dark Souls is fantasy slop morons.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It transcends the fantasy genre tbhdoe.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not really. Fantasy stories don't fit it at all

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah what's with all the fantasy shit

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shut up, dumbasses.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      Because Dark Souls is fantasy slop morons.

      >Planescape Torment
      Is just a glorified book.
      >Morrowind
      Vacuous trash
      >Silent Hill 2
      Read Poe.
      >Fallout New Vegas
      Troon

      Frick off back to /vrpg/, Black Souls isn't nearly as "deep" as you think it is.

      Y r u mad?

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Gunslinger by Stephen King

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also it was based on a poem called Childe Rolande to the Dark Tower Came by Robert Browning which is almost exactly what you described, if you're into narrative poetry.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maldoror

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, another one that clearly inspired Miazaki.
      That bit in Elden Ring where you frick a shark is basically taken word for word.

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