What is the argument for Sunnism?

Ali was so clearly and undeniably the Prophet's choice for successor it's not even up for debate. How do you justify siding with the faction that murdered him?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sunnism is a mental illness on par with transgenderism

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Funny considering Iran is the only country in the Middle East that accepts trannies

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ali lost so God didn't favor him, or something.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Of course it was not the Prophet's (pbuh) choice to appoint Imam Ali (pbuh) as his successor; he only revealed what was God's will to us

    • 3 months ago
      Ο Σολιταίρ

      Are you (pbuh) sure that that's the case (pbuh)?
      Why wouldn't he (pbuh) leave guidance (pbuh) for his Ummah (pbuh)?

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    tl;dr Shiites interpret the word "Mawla" to mean "lord/master" (implying Muhammad said that Ali was to be the hereditary king of Islam), whereas Sunnis interpret the word "Mawla" to mean "friend" (implying that Muhammad said that Ali was just a cool dude to be exalted).

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're not going to make everyone stop and listen to you say treat this guy as your friend. The context is very clear

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you're not going to make everyone stop and listen to you say treat this guy as your friend.
        I would.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Ali pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr
      >Ali named his sons Abu Bakr and Omar
      >Shiism was clearly a political movement that evolved into religious beliefs
      >Shia hadith books are a joke in terms of authentication compared to Sunni hadith books
      >Shiism has a bunch of different sub-sects due to autistic arguing about who is part of the Imams
      >Imams are better than prophets according to Shias

      >Mawla means master!
      >Therefore Ali must be an infallible supreme imam chosen by God himself to have sole political control over the not-yet-established Caliphate!
      >No it doesn't matter that Sunnis call every other member of the sahaba "our master" (sayyidina) as a title too

      Iran and the Houthis are based and stuff but shiism is schizo

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    proto-sunnism is near synonymous with the ahl hadith movement
    narrations found in the relied on works of hadith and sira show that there was no clear cut answer
    the muhajir and ansar gathered and deliberated and ulitmately Abu Bakr was chosen, the only disagreement coming from Sa'd b. Ubada

    As for siding with the faction that murdered Ali, thats wrong
    Abu Bakr appointed Umar, Umar convened a delegation of 6 who chose Uthman, and then Ali managed to secure imamate after defeating Mu'awiya

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ali was so clearly and undeniably the Prophet's choice for successor it's not even up for debate
    We have no evidence for this except sectarian hadiths written a century or more later
    >How do you justify siding with the faction that murdered him?
    The Kharijites murdered him, moron.

    Sunnism as we know it today was a compromise between the moderate Alids and the Uthmanis, who agreed to accept both Ali and Uthman as rightly guided and anathamatise the later Umayyads.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >33:33 is a sectarian hadith

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's the same gnostic Arian unitarian heresy ultimately.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How do you justify siding with the faction that murdered him?
    they won and therefore had Allah's blessing

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they won and therefore had Allah's blessing
      So modern israelites kicking Muslims and Christians into the dirt proves that they have god (allah's) blessing?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they won and therefore had Allah's blessing
      So modern israelites kicking Muslims and Christians into the dirt proves that they have god (allah's) blessing?

      Kek.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    stream is live, come debate

    also if i read the quran, I am a wali, I am a mawla, I am an IMAM, we dont even need to talk about uthman RA

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shi'ism is poorly disguised iranian paganism. Switch Ali with Mithra and you'll have Mithraism

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      not even close and you're illiterate

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cope reza

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