What is the God exactly?

What is the God exactly?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Commonly, a being that created the universe, is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and omnibenevolent.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also, the Judaeo-Christian perception of him.
      Also part way the Islamic perception of him.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also, the Judaeo-Christian perception of him.
      Also part way the Islamic perception of him.

      Also, the Diest notion can also be considered.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What exactly being?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        To be sincere, I don't know the answer to this question.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Omnibenevolent
      Why exactly would he be?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't quite know. But possibly it means wanting its creatures to be happy.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Hellenes thought they logically deduced the supreme being was perfectly good. Christianity has a Hellenistic israeli substrate, and they began to identify the supreme being with the monotheistic creator God of late second temple Judaism. Howsoever incongruous this identification is with the Biblical text, the origin of the notion of a transcendent creator is in the historical meeting of Greek and israelite.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a being
      not off to a great start

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The God is God.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anthropomorphized nature given intelligence claimed to have created the cosmos worshiped by certain theistic religions

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Peasant delusions coping with bad crop picked up by cunning quacks pretending to speak for them and get people to do their bidding.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If God could be accurately described then it wouldn't be God

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am
    >And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, LORD, hast not forsaken them that seek thee.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whatever you can think of thats what it is

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Underrated post

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are you, anon, exactly?

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like the negative definition. God is that, than which nothing greater can be conceived

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    God is the marriage of two concepts.
    Elohim and Theos

    Elohim is the judgment of perception.
    It's explained in Genesis as a thing that sees light, and defines what it sees, and judges it as "good".

    Theos is defined in john as logic. So theos is the code that connects the judgment of perception to abstract models.

    This merging of Theos and Elohim is "God". Although the origional word was literally the word "Good".

    So God is fundamentally the word "good". And we understand what is "good" by perceiving reality, defining it, and connecting it to out logic.

    Where people get confused, is they think in terms of personal, or self indulgent "goodness".

    That's where the concept of the Lord come into play. The LORD. YHWH. JESUS. Is the "goodness" applied to a collective, not an ego. It's the idea of judging from the perspective of a culture. The LORD is not hypocritical. The LORD judges with equity.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    one source with two different forms of emanation.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >like unto a penis, which eminates both urine, and ejaculate.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Something that humans made up to rationalize an irrational world, why did your loved one die? The invisible hand took them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      To dismiss the totality of human experience and the philosophical ruminations on God, death, nature, and existence that humans have contributed for hundreds of thousands of years or more says more about you than it does them, anon.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They didn’t know shit about how reality works anon. They weren’t dumb they just didn’t have that much info.
        Not him btw

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >They didn’t know shit about how reality works anon.
          How does reality work, anon?

          To attribute the totality of human experience to a nonexistent deity say more about you than it does them.

          >nonexistent deity
          Great. What’s your interpretation of death, nature, and existence, anon?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Great. What’s your interpretation of death, nature, and existence, anon?
            It's all a byproduct of the invisible hand.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How does reality work, anon?
            Feel free to combine all well established scientific knowledge into one narrative if you want and type it out bud but that’s a lot of fricking work. I’m just telling you they didn’t have that information.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >combine all the well established scientific knowledge into one narrative
            >they didn’t have that information.
            Sounds like we don’t have all information either now, do we?

            All words, no proofs.

            >It’s all a byproduct of the invisible hand.
            I don’t know, anon, you sound pretty religious to me.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't say that. We don't know, that is the only true. You can use word games to believe something but the truth is that you will never have any proof.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >We don't know, that is the only true.
            Maybe, but are you saying that we don’t know anything? That, despite all of our discoveries and advancements and technological and philosophical progress, that we really don’t know ANYTHING? And, if that’s NOT true, and we do know SOME things, how did we eventually understand these things that we now “know” to be true?
            >We have more than enough to discard the claims of any major religion.
            Oh so we can discard ALL claims from every major religion? But not all religions? Or just certain religions? What makes you so sure that ALL the claims can be discarded from some religions but not ALL religions can be discarded?
            >when attributing everything to divinity is far more reductive.
            I did no such thing. The only person who made a reductive claim was you, who claimed that God is merely “Something that humans made up to rationalize an irrational world, why did your loved one die?”

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Oh so we can discard ALL claims from every major religion? But not all religions?
            Hey man there might be some obscure religion that actually bases their religion on objective facts of nature but I’m not aware of it.
            Also you didn’t link my post you linked another guy’s.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Sounds like we don’t have all information either now, do we?
            We have more than enough to discard the claims of any major religion.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I don’t know, anon, you sound pretty religious to me.
            Well its amusing since you accused me of being reductive, when attributing everything to divinity is far more reductive.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        To attribute the totality of human experience to a nonexistent deity say more about you than it does them.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    An imaginary character from ancient mythology, a slightly more sophisticated concept invented by ancient people as well like the Greeks. Still not real.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All debates about the existence of God is a waste of time. We will never know if he is real or not because the only way to know it is to die and see if there is something after death. But nobody will come from death to confirm that he exists. So you are just wasting your time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >i am a stupid gaylord hylic who cannot see the divinity underlying all of the cosmos and my perception of the cosmos itself
      rationalism is a brainworm, material modernity gouged your inner eye out and you dont even know it. sad!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        All words, no proofs.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >MUH proofs
          literally touch grass and embrace nature you homosexual urbanite bugoid.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No I’m with him. You claim some god is behind it then you prove it. All this pussy pseudo-intellectual insulting proves nothing.
            Put up or shut up.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you here anon? Why are you still alive? If there is no reason for this existence, what is the point of sticking it out to figure out anything at all?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He is here because his parents had sex.
            He is still alive because he doesn't want to die.
            The reason for his existence is personal but basically is to be as happy as he can.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            But why, anon?

            There’s a very blatant over-arching theme with the “religiosity” on this board. You’re all working from the stance that your life actually sucks, you have no idea what you’re doing, you’re aimless, confused and religion kind of saves you.
            I don’t have that problem. I have certainly had that problem in the past but my solution was to make my life worth living instead of retreating into existential escapism.

            What is a life worth living and why, anon?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why what?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            A life that doesn’t make you wonder what the point is. Honestly a lot of you probably are just over-loading your dopamine circuits with video games and internet shit without getting enough exercise or socializing. No gf or fricking either especially if you’re Christian.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There’s a very blatant over-arching theme with the “religiosity” on this board. You’re all working from the stance that your life actually sucks, you have no idea what you’re doing, you’re aimless, confused and religion kind of saves you.
            I don’t have that problem. I have certainly had that problem in the past but my solution was to make my life worth living instead of retreating into existential escapism.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >PROVE ITTTT
            >AHHHGGG PROVE THIS BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY THAT ANYONE CAN GLEAM WITH ENOUGH *PERSONAL* MEDITATION AND CONTEMPLATION
            you are a homosexual, a homosexual that is demanding to be spoonfed that which cannot be spoonfed, despite it being all around you.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i call atheist homosexuals because this argument has been had countless times before on this worthless board, and yet you morons still dont get it. all the mystical schools have encapsulated a non-gay abrahamic understanding of God and the divine, but atheists are still wondering around going "Proof?? wheres the proof?? nevermind I have no conceptualization of what even counts of proof in the first place, nor for that matter an understanding of God that isn't rooted in my anti-abrahamic idea of it as a guy in the clouds." its quite funny and sad at the same time, and pointing out the inane homosexualry of it all is fun as you kids continue to run in circles. maybe one day you'll touch grass, have a miracle or significant jungian synchronicity happen that points to whats beyond your own shallow perceptions, and maybe then you'll stop being a modernist homosexual. but demanding such a development on an underwater basketweaving forum is the peak of goofy hubris

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Right so you don’t have proof. It’s not for me anon I’ve gathered more than enough information from religious people and theists to conclude they don’t have proof. At best the non-religious have some Spinoza like conclusion that god is the sum of all action in the universe which really is a waste of time. I don’t call myself atheist because it’s superfluous at this point in history and my culture, I don’t have a label for myself for not believing in unicorns or goblins either. It’s just a given if you’re educated beyond high school or not stupid.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            We do have proof. We’re alive. We exist. We’re having this conversation right now. We have parents. A mother and a father. They lived and died. They were real people who existed in a time before we were born. My parents had parents. My grandparents. I met them. I talked to them. Laughed with them. Heard the stories about their lives before my parents. Exactly as they REALLY happened? No, I’m sure there were some embellishments or misrememberings. But they existed, anon. And so did their parents, my great grandparents. And so on and so forth. They are not unknown, anon. They existed. We exist. Follow the thread.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh no no anon, that's evolutionism. It's heresy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >heresy
            Not to me it’s not.

            Yes anon that is how family and heredity works, that’s not proof of your god. Let me guess, this is a counter to the belief that I’m some Rick and Morty Reddit nihilist and don’t cherish life, love, nature and the cosmos because I don’t believe an anthropomorphized being made reality . Yes attributing motivations, thinking, decision making and/or goals to the universe is anthropomorphizing.
            I love life, I love nature, the sun, moon, planets and the stars. I do not believe a guy or a more abstract guy made this.

            Okay, that’s cool, anon. It’s just my reason for believing in God. Later dude. Best of luck.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alright have a good one

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes anon that is how family and heredity works, that’s not proof of your god. Let me guess, this is a counter to the belief that I’m some Rick and Morty Reddit nihilist and don’t cherish life, love, nature and the cosmos because I don’t believe an anthropomorphized being made reality . Yes attributing motivations, thinking, decision making and/or goals to the universe is anthropomorphizing.
            I love life, I love nature, the sun, moon, planets and the stars. I do not believe a guy or a more abstract guy made this.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I do not believe a guy or a more abstract guy made this.
            >my conceptualization of God is an abstract guy
            This is a literal childs understanding of the underlying concept/principle. Please grow the frick up, the eastern religions had this figured out hundreds to thousands of years before israelites made their storm demon god the God of the universe.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh please. If you believed in some unthinking spinozas god you wouldn’t be this assblasted. Attributing thought, emotion, planning, judgment, any human behavior or cognitive activity is anthropomorphizing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Attributing thought, emotion, planning, judgment, any human behavior or cognitive activity is anthropomorphizing.
            I did not such thing. You are grasping at straws, making strawman's to buttress your poverty-tier understanding of what God even is, which is what 99.999% of all atheistic nonsense boils down to. And even applying such human elements such as thought, emotion, judgement, whatever to God is not even the same as God being a literal dude to somehow created everything, which you've done multiple times, and is the key sign of still having a childs grasp of the concept.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks for reinforcing why I have been calling you a homosexual. The point went COMPLETELY over your massive turbo-grade midwit head. Proof comes from your own personal experience and perception of what is there, waiting to show its hand; I cannot give you personal experience of such a thing, only you can yourself, by like I said, touching grass, embracing nature, and mediating and contemplation the fundamental essensces of existence and the cosmos. Asking for such a development is full-grade homosexual moronation. I literally already chimed on this by this prior statement:
            >demanding such a development (of proof) on an underwater basketweaving forum is the peak of goofy hubris
            and yet you continued to do so! Again, absolute homosexualry. The fact that this board is still having this stupid back and forth argument after years is full proof that a religion debate board is needed, to isolate midwits like you from historical discussions.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is literally the same logic as astrology girls. All vibes and intuition maan

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, I can to this understanding through experience of Synchronicity, Jung's own consequent musings on the nature of the divine, which is all built upon Daoism in the first place, which all merged with my understanding of cosmology. You are a petulant child who needs to step outside of your own biased worldview.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >im not an astrology girl
            >im all about Jung and eastern spirituality

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >more strawman's
            you have no argument

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You were too cowardly to take a solid stance that would result in any sort of serious debate. Just insults, don’t dish it out if you can’t take it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I actually made this serious post here , but not one of you responded to it, which is predictable, as is rest of your behavior. Being polite and zen doesn't work anyway, so might as well call you the homosexual you are while telling you how things actually work; maybe you'll take a step back from your own ass to actually think deeper about this beyond muh sky fairy and lab-based PROOF!!1 for once in your life.

            Want a final truth bomb: stop expecting like IQfy is going to give you proof of transcendental concepts, which the only attainable "proof" is through mystical personal experience. But thats just astrology girl nonsense, right? Or are you just a dense gay about it?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            meant to point towards this post

            https://i.imgur.com/16YJK0T.jpg

            The ineffable unified totality of existence and being. Ignore all the moron quasi-christian atheists and pleb-tier monotheistic takes.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah reality is unified, that’s great man. Naming it god doesn’t change anything. And like I said proof is requested of Christians and the religious who actually believe in a being that could be proven if it was real.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah reality is unified, that’s great man.
            Oh great, now you've gone and dumbed it down, leaving no room for the soul, or that the cosmos & underlying divine are interactive in nature. Just stop and go look into mystical traditions, they all deal with the same thing. Jung is just the most western-modern take on it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon the problem with going deep in your thoughts is that you’re actually still in your own head. You’re mapping your psychology, not necessarily reality outside your head.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You’re mapping your psychology, not necessarily reality outside your head.
            I'm not sure if you actually said anything here, as this is a very dubious claim when you get into Jungian metaphysics, which intersects with the hard problem of consciousness at a deep level.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jung had some great ideas anon but reality exists outside your head, sorry to tell you. You have zero control, even less control than you have over your unconscious. A space rock could annihilate you and everyone and you wouldn’t be able to do anything about it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Jung had some great ideas anon but reality exists outside your head, sorry to tell you. You have zero control, even less control than you have over your unconscious. A space rock could annihilate you and everyone and you wouldn’t be able to do anything about it.
            Nope, Kastrup gets to the core of this. "Control" doesn't really have anything to do with it. Both the mental and the "physical" world straddle a higher order, which orders the prior two by archetypes, which convey structure and patterns, ranging from natural laws/mathematics, to psychological contents and symbols, which lay the foundation to meaning and purpose for life within the wider whole. Your rejection of this is premised upon botched material-physicalism, which is rebutted by the existence of Synchronicity.

            https://www.jstor.org/stable/1399493?seq=6
            This article gets into the core of Jung's quasi-Daoist metaphysics more, and is an angle missed by Kingsley in Catafalque.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Final note/detail is that the physical and mental world mirror each other, but are representative of a deeper order, which is transcendental and divine. This is an antient eastern conceptualization of God that is free of the trappings of the legacy of certain storm demon and all the nonsense that followed it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are a mental, electro-magnetic being inside your nervous system moving your body inside a physical world. Jung was great at psychology and understood the power of symbols. He’s my favorite honestly.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You are a mental, electro-magnetic being inside your nervous system moving your body inside a physical world.
            proof??? what is mental? what is being? what is physical? how do they all relate?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The proof is every fact about human neurobiology and how it relates to conscious experience. If you’re deprived of certain vitamins you will literally experience the day differently with different thoughts and emotions than if you weren’t.
            Nevermind getting into damage vs. nervous system health.

            What are you talking about?
            You ARE your nervous system. Brain-states ARE mental-states

            You can frame it that way too but it’s sort of like saying breathing is your lungs, it’s more of an action but I’m not necessarily opposed, close enough.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What are you talking about?
            You ARE your nervous system. Brain-states ARE mental-states

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Attributing thought, emotion, planning, judgment, any human behavior or cognitive activity is anthropomorphizing.
            I did not such thing. You are grasping at straws, making strawman's to buttress your poverty-tier understanding of what God even is, which is what 99.999% of all atheistic nonsense boils down to. And even applying such human elements such as thought, emotion, judgement, whatever to God is not even the same as God being a literal dude to somehow created everything, which you've done multiple times, and is the key sign of still having a childs grasp of the concept.

            In all seriousness, when people ask for proof of god here it is almost always toward the Christian and religious, not whatever new age secularism you guys are spouting.
            Honestly go for it, just don’t be pissy that other people don’t need it or it doesn’t resonate with them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            mods need to nuke this board and perma ban all of you

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like you need to meditate about Carl Jung and planets bro

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            what do you mean with embrace nature?

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The ineffable unified totality of existence and being. Ignore all the moron quasi-christian atheists and pleb-tier monotheistic takes.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Love and truth.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He is that he is

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He is the unmoved mover, the uncaused cause, the most fundamental being, the ultimately necessary being, and the one who orders everything to their necessary end. Read Aquinas.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing more hilarious than theists trying really hard to pass as great intellectual rational thinkers when what they're truly advocating for is the most blatant fake ass fairy tales about some talking snake and incest sex on a boat.
    >but I'm a deist!!! Not a peasant christcuck, I'm super smart!!!
    The only reason you want a God is because you can't let go of the entierty of your christian indoctrination and still need an imaginary daddy without the obvious fake stuff.
    Yo use sophistry, fake ass special pleading axioms and tons of "God of the Gaps" to wishful think it into reality.

    >If no God why stars and sunset pretty???
    Seriously? This is so fricking sad.

    Let it go, you've lost. It was never a battle, only you struggling trying to justify a falsehood. A lie you've told yourself.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some guy with holes in his hands

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    "The spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters"
    "the waters" presumably being the waters of the firmament as seperated from the waters of the Earth or whatever. So we can assume God is basically everywhere in the universe/"he is the universe" which seems to be the general attitude about God within a israeli context and is likewise expressed in the Christian Old Testament

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A something that is beyond the laws of physics that for some reason creates an avatar that looks like an old israeli man.

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