What is the moral justification for caring about people on your landmass over other people on other landmasses?

What is the moral justification for caring about people on your landmass over other people on other landmasses?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    care about yourself, your family, your tribe, and whatever divine being sired the first of your kin on earth. Any nation of more than one line will war within itself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What if my family is abusive?
      What if my tribe is a totalitarian society?
      Am I still supposed to care/align with them over the nicer people in landmass B?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        then throw yourself into the fire and be damned for you are lost if you will not seek the restoration.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Get 100,000 dollars robbed by stranger
          >ILL KILL YOU
          >Get 100,000 dollars robbed by cousin
          >Oh it's fine.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >What if my family is abusive?
        >What if my tribe is a totalitarian society?
        >Am I still supposed to care/align with them over the nicer people in landmass B?
        So you're such an autistic psychopath that you can't find a single friend out of millions of people in your own country?

        In that case you should probably just have a nice day lol.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      then throw yourself into the fire and be damned for you are lost if you will not seek the restoration.

      based spartan making shitlibs look like moron babbies

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because most likely people on your landmass are more closely related to you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So? How does being related to me mean they deserve more rights?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >So? How does being related to me mean they deserve more rights?
        Feel free to give away all your belongings to the third world and feed yourself to a shark anon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >deserve more rights
        The question was about caring, not about rights. Also rights are fake.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Also rights are fake.
          Yep, you don't automatically have rights just because you're human.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Every normal person has this inborn desire to perpetuate something in life and the most natural things to perpetuate are oneself and your close kin. After that, it's only natural that a man will wish for the prosperity of his more distant kin as well. The only exceptions to this rule are race communist freaks who want to destroy civilization itself, so it goes without saying that people like yourself should be killed, owing to the chaos and extreme violence you are known for.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Every normal person has this inborn desire to perpetuate something in life and the most natural things to perpetuate are oneself and your close kin
      So you mean to be selfish? How is that moral? Also no. Some of us don't feel like we need to blindly owe our family anything. Especially if it's some deadbeat Dad or biological mother that gave you up for adoption. You don't need them and you SHOULD only only care about the people who are nice to you.
      >After that, it's only natural that a man will wish for the prosperity of his more distant kin as well.
      No. I wish them well no matter what. As long as they are not hostile people (hostile meaning that they will deliberately trample your features to seek their own).
      >The only exceptions to this rule are race communist freaks
      Race communist? No one said anything about race. That's even less valuable. Every race has garbage people. You're not entitled to anything just because we have the same skin tone. Either way, Race doesn't help your argument either because race transcends nation borders. So thank you for agreeing with me.
      >who want to destroy civilization itself
      Right. So society will collapse if I don't treat some someone from Town A different than Town B?
      >so it goes without saying that people like yourself should be killed, owing to the chaos and extreme violence you are known for.
      Like what? Nation States caused 2 world wars and almost a 3rd one.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody cares, you must share your house, welfare money and HIV with refugees now because the state said so.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >So? How does being related to me mean they deserve more rights?
          Feel free to give away all your belongings to the third world and feed yourself to a shark anon.

          I never said give them your belongings. Just that they should be treated they were born on your landmass as any other opinion is either inconsistent or admitting to being immoral. That being said, if your house was thousands of miles wide all directions, yes you should allow people inside. I think that's pretty obvious.

          >deserve more rights
          The question was about caring, not about rights. Also rights are fake.

          I don't understand your argument though. Why should I care that they are related to me? Does that magically grant them more personhood?

          >What if my family is abusive?
          >What if my tribe is a totalitarian society?
          >Am I still supposed to care/align with them over the nicer people in landmass B?
          So you're such an autistic psychopath that you can't find a single friend out of millions of people in your own country?

          In that case you should probably just have a nice day lol.

          Well what if I find a really nice friend that moved to my country recently? Should I hate them because they weren't born here? Does a plane ride and some pieces of paper really make them more respectable in your eyes?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Why should I care that they are related to me?
            99.999% of people care more about their family than strangers. If you don't feel this way as well there's not much I can tell you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No it's not. If your biological parents left you up for adoption and some other family raised you, would you unironically put the biological family over them?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >No it's not. If your biological parents left you up for adoption and some other family raised you, would you unironically put the biological family over them?
            Adopted kids are never as close to their adoptive parents as Children are to their biological parents.

            Adoptive parents are never an equal substitute.
            It's merely better than not having any parents at all.

            Adoptive parents are equivalent to a prosthetic leg. You don't hate your lost leg, you merely wish you never lost it to illness or accident.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No. Adoptive parents will ALWAYS be more genuine parents than some failure father who left you. The only reason it might seem that way is because familyshills like you try to make them feel like they are missing something.
            >There is no point in autistic psychopaths existing
            How is it psychopathic to care about people who aren't related to you? Wouldn't it be the other way around of you being a psychopath because you only care about how closely people are to yourself?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >No. Adoptive parents will ALWAYS be more genuine parents than some failure father who left you.
            Lol. My biological parents raised me.
            My school friend's adoptive parents kicked him out of the house as soon as possible because his parents only wanted the welfare reward money given to adoptive parents. They never loved him because they they don't look or act like him. Because they aren't genetically related at all.

            >The only reason it might seem that way
            You're speaking out of your ass you mentally disabled autistic lol.

            >How is it psychopathic to care about people who aren't related to you?
            How is it psychopathic to abandon your own biological children and replace them with some rats you found in a sewer?
            You're literally too autistic to even realize how evil you are.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            But no joke anon. You probably should have been aborted rather than allowed to live.
            There is no point in autistic psychopaths existing.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I never said give them your belongings
            That's exactly what you're saying.

            >Why should I care that they are related to me?
            Because Alien robot autistic inhuman psychopath anon. Humans are mammals that raise their young. Humans are also social animals that associate most with their own relatives and ethnicities.
            Polar Bears and Grizzly bears can easily breed together to produce viable offspring. But they rarely do because they are very different.
            Are you a grey alien from another solar system that's just discovered IQfy or something?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >That's exactly what you're saying.
            No. Do you allow random family members to just barge in your home and do whatever they want?
            >Humans are mammals that raise their young.
            Okay, but how does that make it more moral/logical to raise your young instead of someone else's?
            >Humans are also social animals that associate most with their own relatives and ethnicities.
            Only because they are easy meet. If you lived in China or something, you would probably relate more with Chinese people than your current country regardless of who you're related to.
            >Polar Bears and Grizzly bears can easily breed together to produce viable offspring. But they rarely do because they are very different.
            No. It's because grizzly bears don't live near polar bears and don't have a means to communicate with them via Internet/social media. By the way, your logic is the perfect justification of incest. Why breed with lesser humans when you can do your own family?
            >Are you a grey alien from another solar system that's just discovered IQfy or something?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >No.
            Yes, that's what you're saying anon.

            >Do you allow random family members to just barge in your home and do whatever they want?
            Refugees literally jump country borders illegally and attack people outside their homes.
            Family members visit my house any time during the day and they use my swimming pool in the afternoon during parties.

            >Okay, but how does that make it more moral/logical to raise your young instead of someone else's?
            This is why you have no friends, family or intimate relationships with anyone.
            This is why nobody will notice or care about your death.
            You aren't even human.
            Parents that don't raise their own young or the young of relatives are quickly removed from the gene pool.

            >Only because they are easy meet.
            Nope...
            People still segregate in South Africa and India when it would be easier to just marry people from a different ethnicity...

            >No. It's because grizzly bears don't live near polar bears
            Wrong, their territories literally overlap and yet they've stayed separate species for millions of years due to behavioral and appearance differences.

            >>Are you a grey alien from another solar system that's just discovered IQfy or something?
            You can't answer that can you lol...
            You're just extremely autistic. It's obvious.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Yes, that's what you're saying anon.
            Not at all. I say you should treat everyone equally. You're saying some imaginary line the government created tells you who is human and who is subhuman. That doesn't any sense
            >Refugees literally jump country borders illegally and attack people outside their homes.
            Reductionist mindset. Also people who live here do the same thing. Not all refugees are criminals. Not all people in your nation are good people.
            >Family members visit my house any time during the day and they use my swimming pool in the afternoon during parties.
            The ones you know. Yes. Not some distant cousin you met 5 minutes ago.
            >This is why you have no friends, family or intimate relationships with anyone. This is why nobody will notice or care about your death. You aren't even human. Parents that don't raise their own young or the young of relatives are quickly removed from the gene pool.
            Wrong. People both inside and outside my family like me and not because I'm related to them, but because I'm not some seething racist incel who feels owed their love because my mother's sister birth them.
            >Nope...People still segregate in South Africa and India when it would be easier to just marry people from a different ethnicity...
            Due to social and cultural pressures/brainwashing. Not because it's logical or moral.
            >Wrong, their territories literally overlap and yet they've stayed separate species for millions of years due to behavioral and appearance differences.
            >https://carnegiemnh.org/climate-change-pizzly-bear/.
            The only polar bears still keeping to their own kind are the ones inbreeding.
            >You're just extremely autistic. It's obvious.
            No. I just care about humans even if they aren't related to me.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because the closer you are to another person, the more your actions affect them and their actions affect you. You are morally obligated to treat your neighbors with a minimum standard of care because you expect the same from him. You'd be angry if your neighbor burned garbage in his yard or played loud music outdoors at 3am, so you must also agree to refrain from doing those things on your property.

    In contrast, someone living far away, say in the middle of the Congolese jungle, does not have this kind of relationship towards you. What you do doesn't affect him and what he does doesn't affect you. But since you make basically no demands on someone living in the Congo, you have no basically ethical duties with respect to this hypothetical stranger.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This isn't true at all. In fact, this sort of subconscious justification is how a lot of corporations get away with abusing workers in other countries.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >This isn't true at all. In fact, this sort of subconscious justification is how a lot of corporations get away with abusing workers in other countries.
        It is 100% true.
        And yes, in case you didn't already know.
        Indians hate non-Indians.
        Chinese hate non-Chinese.
        Nigerians hate non-Nigerians.
        Etc...
        Globalist corporations simply take advantage of laws that are provided by countries.
        Switzerland doesn't heavily tax huge bank accounts...
        Corporations save up their money in Switzerland.
        China doesn't care about minimum pay rates in factories due to communism?
        Corporations move their manufacturing operations to China in order to make products at the lowest possible price.
        That's more apathy than anything else.
        The same thing you're suffering from.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The help you give to people on your own landmass is more likely to come back around to benefit you in some way. For example, reducing poverty in your own country is going to benefit you more than reducing poverty in another country.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >live next door to someone
      >know them very well
      >since you live in a similar environment, you think, feel, and behave similarly
      >more likely to get along

      >live very far away from someone
      >don't know them very well
      >since you live in a similar environment, you think, feel, and behave similarly
      >less likely to get along

      It's as simple as that, really. The spergs on IQfy just don't understand how socialisation works.

      >I socialize with them more so that means it's moral to kill a random person than your neighbor

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just don't like em

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >live next door to someone
    >know them very well
    >since you live in a similar environment, you think, feel, and behave similarly
    >more likely to get along

    >live very far away from someone
    >don't know them very well
    >since you live in a similar environment, you think, feel, and behave similarly
    >less likely to get along

    It's as simple as that, really. The spergs on IQfy just don't understand how socialisation works.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Third line on the second paragraph should say "since you don't live in a similar environment, you don't think, feel, and behave similarly"

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Collective responsibility
    I do the absolute bare minimum to help them in the expectation they do the absolute bare minimum to help me
    A Ugandan owes me nothing and I owe a Ugandan nothing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What if your cousin or a local resident decides not to help you at all?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What is the moral justification for caring about other people on other landmasses over people on your own landmass?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is none. They should be treated equally.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Good Austrayan afternoon, Mr. Singer.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why exactly is it my purpose in life to care for the billions of people all over the planet?

    >moral justification
    The sheer impracticality of what you are saying is relevant here. If I could snap my fingers and ensure everyone leads a happy life free from poverty, I would, but I am just one human. Similarly Iceland Norway are just tiny countries on one corner of the globe, and you think they should be flooded with "refugees" according to an abstraction. So one has to question why you are so desperate to do this.

    Wouldn't it be better if Bengal and Somalia followed in the example of Iceland and Norway which, despite the freezing cold, manage to build a nice life for themselves. What is holding back the Bengalis and Somalians? These are better questions to ask.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >moral justification
    assuming this needs to be justified.

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