What should I read from Plato?

I just got a copy of his complete works. Plato intrests me and I'm excited to read, but I ain't readin allat dawg.
So as a person intrested in his philosophy, what are the essencial parts to get the Platonic system?

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I ain't readin allat dawg
    why not? it's 1500 pages for an entire corpus, if you don't like reading, frick off

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      I'm not (that) illiterate. Just want to avoid the stuff that's not his core philosophy, that's all.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        What do you mean by his "core philosophy?" The Republic synthesizes and weaves a lot of his ideas, but you're not going to understand most of it unless you read his other dialogues. Don't be a mongo and just open to page 1.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I just try to filter out the more useless dialogues, there are already a shit ton of them and I doubt that every one is worth reading, so by 'core' I mean the essencial ones.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            So correct me if I am wrong - you have read none of Plato's dialogues, but already assume that there are useless ones among them that are not worth reading?
            Speaking for myself, I thought each dialogue was precious and useful. Even the fake ones. Even the ones that are weirdly complicated and not particularly relevant to modern life (yes, I am thinking of the Timaeus here).
            I thought exactly like you did before I read Plato. I was completely wrong, and am very glad I read him in full.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            OP listen to this guy. Plato's very enjoyable to read. Take your time with it, it's not a race. If you get bored, put him down for a bit and then pick him back up. Don't fall in the trap that many pseuds do by trying to speedrun books you find on /chart/ threads.
            If we were talking Aristotle, this thread would be a lot different. But Plato is babyphilosophy101 that will give you a nice base and some of the language you need for reading others.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            OP listen to this guy. Plato's very enjoyable to read. Take your time with it, it's not a race. If you get bored, put him down for a bit and then pick him back up. Don't fall in the trap that many pseuds do by trying to speedrun books you find on /chart/ threads.
            If we were talking Aristotle, this thread would be a lot different. But Plato is babyphilosophy101 that will give you a nice base and some of the language you need for reading others.

            Ok, you two convinced me, I'll read them all.

            Also you mentioned Aristotle (who I plan to read eventually), what would you reccomend from him?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Aquinas determined the best reading order for Aristotle, I recommend that, you can skip all the natural philosophy science stuff since most of it is obsolete anyhow.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you can skip all the natural philosophy science stuff
            It's necessary for a full understanding of Aristotle, given that he weaves information necessary to understanding his other works into it at times.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can skip the anatomy part of Timaeus

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    the neoplatonic corpus

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just read five pages a day until you're done. If you're too lazy to do even that, read the Republic.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    the 4 socrates trial related dialogues, then parmenides, then move on
    plato is historically relevant because of what he meant to philosophy thousands of years ago, but he's completely irrelevant today outside of Parmenides. you wouldn't play Pong (1972) today, right? actually relevant philosophy starts with Descartes

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >actually relevant philosophy starts with the guy who got completely filtered by everyone who came before, tried to reinvent the wheel, failed, and set the stage for an army of pseuds that would proceed to do the same thing he did but worse for like the next 400 years

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        no, i just told you relevant philosophy DIDNT start with plato

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >anon has now entered cope mode

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    start with Parmenides.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Euthyphro is good and really short

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The bible

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