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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Juice

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Capitalism. AI was always going to be nothing but a tool to cut costs.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the person who made that image considered 1960's Futurists to be racist blackphobic problematic imperialists

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >considered 1960's Futurists to be racist blackphobic problematic imperialists
      YES. And that is a good thing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's actually 30s futurists

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        everything died in 1945

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, the downfall started with the enlightenment

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The world ended in 1914

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not even close. 1776.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1960s futurism sounds kind of dystopian if you're not a creative person. As a process control technician (I maintain the systems that do tasks automatically) I prefer the 2020s techbro option.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Then again you have no soul so your opinion is irrelevant.

      What a dumb image, how many people have ever been capable of writing music, books and TV shows? A rare few

      Anyone can make art. In fact people use their work as an excuse to never even try to do any sort of creative work.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Then again you have no soul so your opinion is irrelevant.
        I have a soul, that's why I'm not being replaced by a machine while your soulless art is done better by a GPU.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only soulless bugmen dream for a world were the only way to live is to learn the skills that are useful for Mr Goldberg's corporation.

          You keep dreaming in code or whatever it is soulless tools do for their masters while the rest of us (real human beings) continue striving to get out of the wagie cage.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine preferring being a cog in some rich schmucks machine.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Imagine preferring being a cog in some rich schmucks machine.
        Like I was saying AI bros are the scum of humanity whose only goal in life is dragging everyone down.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      non-creative people do not serve a purpose. it's best they kill themselves right now
      humans, by nature, are creative, so if you're not creative, you're not human. have a nice day

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >humans, by nature, are creative
        they're not

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          huh?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't worry, he's just baiting you

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            t. robot failing the turing test

            Don't worry, he's just baiting you

            human exceptionalism is homosexual enlightenment reddit shit, elephants can pump out art better than the vast majority of ""artists"" today

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            don't care.
            still like humans.

            are you a machinoid? disassemble yourself

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >still like humans.
            why

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's my personal religion.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            cool. it's my personal religion that most people shouldn't have kids

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          t. robot failing the turing test

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >humans, by nature, are creative, so if you're not creative, you're not human. have a nice day
        Maybe your premise that humans are creative or the premise that he is not creative is wrong. And even then I don't see how someone not being human implies he should kill himself.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    all anti-ai sentiment is subconsciously rooted from an irrational fear of e-girl

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The left fears e-girl, the right fears furry, the centrists fear both.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    turns out creative pursuits were the easiest thing to solve

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nothing, I coomed to AI dicky so much I need to take a break now

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      feet

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The purpose of eliminating tedious parts is still there.

      QT

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what model is that?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NAI v3

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pedos get the rope

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Big if true

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shouldn't you be in prison dropping the soap, dr. pizza

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What a dumb image, how many people have ever been capable of writing music, books and TV shows? A rare few

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Future's has been cancelled. Check for Mark Fisher and CCRU.

    Corporate set the course of history to make a business-as-usual world.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1960s futurists were homosexuals who copied tech marketing material and didnt understand what they were talking about. the only good futurists were the italians in the 20s and 30s and that was for their art rather than any predictions they made.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Still not sure what a techbro is

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >internet will bring about world peace because people will actually just be able to talk to one another and not believe the lies of media and politicians

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >with access to all the world's knowledge at their fingertips people will become smarter and wiser then ever before

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even as a kid in the early 00s this made no sense to me, given what I was already witnessing on the internet.
      World peace is delusion. And hypnotic cult daze.
      Real human beings aren't friendly and exploit you.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Real human beings aren't friendly and exploit you.
        I wish this wasn't the case, but we're too weak to help each other.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The internet pre-social media was pretty great. Most people had a pretty decent bullshit filter and never took things too seriously. Most forums defaulted to serious discussions, but also had a much more free area where you could just shoot the shit to get it out of your system.
        Now they're all dead for the all-in-one websites.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AI bros are literally the scum of humanity
    >Oh yea in the future we will not need to write or paint or draw AI will do it for us all !
    >We will simply sit there consuming and shove food in our fat faces all day

    Talk about the anti star trek.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He doesn't do hobbies that require manual labor
      Seems like a (you) issue.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Manual labor.
        Like slaving the boxes for Amazon? Is this your ideal future?
        AI generates all art while you push boxes for amazon?

        (this also will be automated away)

        >Muh manual labor
        Go work a 1800s coal miners job and then come back.

        The idea of this 1960s future was to create artists and thinkers of all instead of shoving coal for 8h and then going home.

        You literally want humanity to rot away into uncreative slobs who only push Amazon boxes around and consume AI generated crap in the MSM/Streaming Services.

        This is the end of humanity, literally worst dystopia. 1984 is a utopia now.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Good lol. Welcome to reality you shithead, I hope you enjoy unemployment.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Good lol. Welcome to reality you shithead, I hope you enjoy unemployment.
            Are AI bros obsessed with everyone hating them and wanting them genocides?

            Are you deliberately begging people to create the AI bro genocide?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I meant stuff like welding, you dumb inkcel.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I meant stuff like welding,
            Super easy to automate.

            I suspect our overlords are deliberately doing this.
            They are deliberately destroying art and creativity in the 99% so that the next generations will be brain dead box pushers or "hold blow torch to 2 metals" idiots. And be unable to even understand that automation is coming for their meaningless "hold blow torch to 2 metals" job.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I hate SD more than any of you (mostly because a picture is supposed to say a thousand words, not like 20) but I don't think they're necessarily related concepts, or rather you don't need them to come to the same conclusion.
            what's happened is that it's become more cost efficient to replace creators than it is to replace menial workers. in other words, it is precisely because art is a highly skilled profession that it's become so tantalizing to automate. for factory automation there is always a great persistent backpressure to hire turd worlders for pennies, creating the associated opportunity cost that prevents any tangible capital investment into automation. it itself is largely an issue with our current economic system giving no consideration to social/external costs, and the dangerous idea of equal human rights alongside the human right to free conception.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >te. for factory automation there is always a great persistent backpressure to hire turd worlders for pennie
            See:

            >totally useless consumers will be kept around because they just will ok?

            >Realistic scenario (UTOPIA)
            After the masses are dubbed down in another generation and unable to do anything other then move packages at Amazon and consume AI TikToks then the elites will exterminate them. The human slob will be unable to understand that automation = kill them.
            And create their techno elite future where they a re immortal cyborgs and robots do all their work (no on on this website will be part of this).

            >Unrealistic scenario (dystopia)
            The elites are idiots and will get addicted to AI crap and tech like everyone else basically culminating in all of them going into the max orgasm pods for the rest of their life, growing old and after 130 years dying. The earth will be left with no humans and the remaining machines will break down.

            Like the line in that obscure webcomic says
            >The last human dyed in pleasure

            >Having his every need fulfilled by robots
            >He died fat and happy.

            And then all infrastructure breaks down and nature reclames the cities.
            And that old timeless truth is shown once more, intelligence, civilization are a trap a impossible suicide pact technology. No civilization ever reaches the space stage. There is only silence between the stars.

            >factory automation
            >ire turd worlders for pennie
            You do not understand what automation is.

            >backpressure
            Gen Alpfa or the generation after them will physically be unable to think the concept "robots will replace us and we starve".

            >backpressure
            See:

            >totally useless consumers will be kept around because they just will ok?

            >Realistic scenario (UTOPIA)
            After the masses are dubbed down in another generation and unable to do anything other then move packages at amazon and consume AI TikToks then the elites will exterminate them. The human slob will be unable to understand that automation = kill them.
            And create their techno elite future where they a re immortal cyborgs and robots do all their work (no on on this website will be part of this).

            >Unrealistic scenario (dystopia)
            The elites are idiots and will get addicted to AI crap and tech like everyone else basically culminating in all of them going into the max orgasm pods for the rest of their life, growing old and after 130 years dying. The earth will be left with no humans and the remaining machines will break down.

            Like the line in that obscure webcomic says
            >The last human dyed in pleasure

            >Having his every need fulfilled by robots
            >He died fat and happy.

            And then all infrastructure breaks down and nature reclames the cities.
            And that old timeless truth is shown once more, intelligence, civilization are a trap a impossible suicide pact technology. No civilization ever reaches the space stage. There is only silence between the stars.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            On the contrary, most remaining menial jobs are extremely difficult to automate, and their simplicity is deceptive, they are actually very hard.
            Welding has been automated for I don't know, fifty years? When people do it, there is probably some seemingly easy obstacle that no machine can deal with.
            Art isn't tantalizing to automate, it came as a complete shock. Somebody just did it, it wasn't expected by anybody to come any time soon, if at all.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In 10 years you'll have a robot doing all your woodworking or whatever and defending it on IQfy

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the funny part is cnc already took the artisian labor jobs
          people forget that the same way cad took the drafting halls
          matlab the old human banks of people that were called calculators
          stem lost first

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just toil for fun bro
        And if you're disabled though luck btw

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you'll be able to create a full length movie with AI soon!™
      just imagine what sort of slop a movie must be to be reducible to a shitty text prompt. It would likely make Cocomelon look like Hitchwiener...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >with access to all the world's knowledge at their fingertips people will become smarter and wiser then ever before

      You can't change human nature people are scum. Most people shouldn't exist.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Next genocide when?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Literally happening right now in Palestine.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Literally happening right now to trans folx.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Literally happening right now to most first world educated people

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Billions must die

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Zionist detected.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not "human nature", it's the fact that the modern internet is built with engagement being the top priority, meaning shit we interact with online revolves around it going viral which in turn leads to absolute garbage and moronation rising to the top.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It's not "human nature", it's the fact that the modern internet is built with engagement being the top priority, meaning shit we interact with online revolves around it going viral which in turn leads to absolute garbage and moronation rising to the top.
          He spoke the truth.

          >Inernet
          The internet is the greatest evil humans have ever created.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The internet is the greatest evil humans have ever created.
            If you truly believe this then what are you doing here on IQfy?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are only saying that because the people on top of you don’t deserve to exist but you punch down not up because you’re shook

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      your tone would be different if you knew how to work stable diffusion, cris.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >your tone would be different if you knew how to work stable diffusion, cris.

        It is incredible how AI bros self contradict.
        No AI moron there is minimal skill in AI art and I can use it.
        You literally get like 20 GiB database/dataset that is literally full of stolen pictures from the internet and you prompt it like google to give you pictures other people made.

        The only difference is that AI tries (and most of the time FAILS) to photobash 2 pictures together like replacing the vegana on the female with a penis because you prompted for FUTA.

        >you knew how to
        Prompting is not a skill. You have no skill. And you being the scum of humanity hell bend on dragging society down to your level is the problem.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i literally said none of this. i just said you were too stupid to use it (factual) because you're cris (factual) and you literally can't do anything. you crab on /ic/, saw ai, got excited, and then realized because you're you you literally can not use it properly to improve your art or your process. and now you're crabbing on IQfy because you're angry. you always do this, and the funniest part is that you're not even good at it because none of the time are your crab arguments convincing and literally EVERY TIME people know it's you. it's depressing.
          just wash dishes, man.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >because you're cris (factual)
            I'm literally not. You schizo.
            > i just said you were too stupid to use it
            I can use it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If it uses stolen images to create new ones, you surely can prove which and how much of the image was used for the particular generation so I can pay the origins artists, right?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you surely can prove which
            There are detectors who find this all the time.
            The fact that Random Deviantart user #34556 does not know that you are posting a picture that is basically 95% his + the cat face photo that the AI stole from deviant art use #4667 does not mean you are not stealing.

            And yes there are detectors and the rests are comical.

            I used AI and let me tell you anyone who did that immediately sees this after 20 prompts.
            Also comedy gold when you prompt and literally get PERFECT getty image stalk picture complete with PERFECT water marks.

            >If it uses stolen images
            There is no way around this. The AI literally can not understand new concepts because the AI is not a real person or intelligent.

            This is why you can prompt for all the characters you have on your funko pop collection like superman and batman. However truly obscure characters are impossible for it to generate from a prompt.

            Explain how this is posible?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          85% of "art" online is flouting copyright on characters from pre-2012.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The only difference is that AI tries (and most of the time FAILS) to photobash 2 pictures together like replacing the vegana on the female with a penis because you prompted for FUTA.

          Skill issue

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This kind of dystopia is laughable because it assumes that totally useless consumers will be kept around because they just will ok?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They will since the power the elites wish to hold isn't over material but over spirits.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >totally useless consumers will be kept around because they just will ok?

        >Realistic scenario (UTOPIA)
        After the masses are dubbed down in another generation and unable to do anything other then move packages at Amazon and consume AI TikToks then the elites will exterminate them. The human slob will be unable to understand that automation = kill them.
        And create their techno elite future where they a re immortal cyborgs and robots do all their work (no on on this website will be part of this).

        >Unrealistic scenario (dystopia)
        The elites are idiots and will get addicted to AI crap and tech like everyone else basically culminating in all of them going into the max orgasm pods for the rest of their life, growing old and after 130 years dying. The earth will be left with no humans and the remaining machines will break down.

        Like the line in that obscure webcomic says
        >The last human dyed in pleasure

        >Having his every need fulfilled by robots
        >He died fat and happy.

        And then all infrastructure breaks down and nature reclames the cities.
        And that old timeless truth is shown once more, intelligence, civilization are a trap a impossible suicide pact technology. No civilization ever reaches the space stage. There is only silence between the stars.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They want shabbos goy and to feel exalted, they have no use for robots except to police the rabble for their own good.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >hey have no use for robots
            Why?
            Every goy can be replaced with a robot.
            Why do they want goys?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Despite the fact that automation has been rendering more and more humans superfluous for generations now the global population continues to rise apace and is still several generations away from a projected peak (that might not even happen ultimately).
          If the capitalist masters of the universe wish to cull the population based on their worth as laborers they have historically done a terrible job of it. Even the great wars of the 20th century were minor blips in terms of population loss over time.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If the capitalist masters of the universe wish to cull the population based on their worth as laborers they have historically done a terrible job
            What cope.
            >b-b-b- muh wars
            Wars literally are nothing burgers where less then 1% of the population dies.

            You are entering the human extinction era.
            >b-b-b- previously
            LOL get a load of this idiot.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I guess I just need to see more proof than some anon's schizo rant before I believe that a tiny cabal is going to wipe out 99% of the human race, which has no historical precedent, not that it matters to you since you seem to believe history is bunk.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >has no historical precedent,
            Are you insane?
            Do you not understand technological progress?

            Ai can do basically everything any wage can do or will be able in 10 to 20 years
            >Muh historical precedent,

            Are you moronic?

            I ask once more
            >20th
            >automation
            Where self driving cars possible in 1921?
            With fricken what? Cogs and a stick?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > self driving cars
            I think your mistake is assuming that there are no 'superfluous' people until suddenly everyone is(other than your shadowy cabal). But in reality, most modern economies have had as a practical matter way too many workers available for the necessary work to keep society going for generations. Our economies are essentially giant balancing acts where we keep all these useless people on salary collecting checks despite doing no productive work. These people's real value added to the global economy is in consuming their checks. Which a shadowy cabal could just as easily do by taking all that production and firing it into the sun. Yet despite the massive amount of useless labor your shadowy cabal has no death camps operating to kill them since they are so unnecessary. They get their checks until the businesses cannot afford to pay them anymore, then they get laid off and the masters of the universe attempt to keep the whole economy from tipping over a few more years.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >> self driving cars
            >[EVADES TALKING ABOUT AI CARS]
            Dude I was expecting you to fear monger like self driving cars CAN NOT get better or some shit.

            >>Muh economic nonsens
            You are moronic.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why is self driving cars some kind of Rubicon for you? Do you believe that there are superfluous members of the labor force before self driving cars? The economics matters because your entire 'theory' rests on the idea that once workers aren't needed any more, the lizard bug men alien grand unified conspiracy will just kill everyone.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that there aren't superfluous members of the labor force*

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why is self driving cars some kind of Rubicon for you?

            Because it proves that robots can replace a lot of humans in decision making at this point. Driving a car is one of them.

            >Why is self driving cars some kind of Rubicon for you?
            You keep on babbling about automation in the 1920s or some shit like this.
            I ask you how the previous automation would even try to make a self driving car. There always needed to be a human to control a machine in 1920.

            Now it is different.

            >The economics matters
            Yea you debunked yourself right here.
            Economics is literally made up nonsense on the level of astrology.

            >your entire 'theory' rests on the idea that once workers aren't needed any more,
            I'm only telling you what I see.
            Every factory and every job needs less and less workers because of automation. How are these people going to work to get money?

            >, the lizard bug men alien grand unified conspiracy will just kill everyone.
            Why do you jump to this?
            What can be more horrifying is that the rich investors are so oblivious to reality that they can not understand that that people can not get a job now.
            And then the NEETs will run out of money and starve on the streets or do crime and grow old and childless in prison.

            And this will continue.

            >will just kill everyone.
            Multiple people have told you that the plan looks like simply ending the population by preventing reproduction.
            Simply the generation will grow old and die out having less and less children.

            This can be seen by promoting
            >*NEW* Castration AKA Transgenderism AKA "take hormones and castrate yourself KIDS"!
            >LGBT AKA have gay sex and do not reproduce
            >Female education AKA Feminism AKA "all men are rapists and if a man looked at you the wrong way he raped you report him to the police" "also be independent business woman and never have children"
            >Child Free / Single life
            >All the anti child crap in the MSM.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I ask you how the previous automation would even try to make a self driving car. There always needed to be a human to control a machine in 1920.

            >what are horses?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >20th
            >automation
            Where self driving cars possible in 1921?
            With fricken what? Cogs and a stick?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They won't. There was a WEF member talking about keeping useless eaters occupied with videogames, drugs and porn until they die. The point is them to not reproduce.

        I mean, the standard for music/books/films/vidya has been in decline for years now, no wonder "AI" can replace the "Artists"
        If anything i think it will lead to an increase in the standards of quality products, while moronic shit like BBwiener netflix series or mobile games will become even worse
        After the AI hypetrain i became even more appreciative of quality human artwork tbtbh and i'm probably not the only one

        >implying AI won't do your meaningless tedium cubicle job
        And the only reason books/music/TV writing is vulnerable to replacement by AI is because the people doing it now are doing such an awful job of it.

        There is zero artistic merit in mainstream cinema/book/music industries because they're funded by companies that care only for return of investment so they take no risks. The push for AI-generated content will do nothing but further lower quality and increase their profit margins.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They won't. There was a WEF member talking about keeping useless eaters occupied with videogames, drugs and porn until they die. The point is them to not reproduce.
          That is the plan.
          And the push to have no children makes it all complete.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They won't. There was a WEF member talking about keeping useless eaters occupied with videogames, drugs and porn until they die. The point is them to not reproduce.
          That is the plan.
          And the push to have no children makes it all complete.

          While that is likely the prefered option to deal with the enormous masses, those who don't get lured get hunted down and their lives ruined.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the anti star trek
      >Computer, generate a masterpiece, best quality, 1girl, deanna troi, giantess, spread legs, catapult.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>the anti star trek
        YES.
        If you notice they say
        >To better ourselves.
        They learn like playing a piano and painting in their free time.

        >Muh holodeck
        Daily reminder that this character is depicted as BASICALLY a fricked up autist NEET and gets intervention for his holodeck addiction on multiple occasions.

        >Muh holodeck
        The programs there are mostly educational etc. See Voyager and the Flotter program.
        https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Flotter

        My fanfiction is that it is mind control on children
        >Mom I do not want to go to school!
        >I want to play holodeck games all day
        OK sunshine do whatever you want. No school and only holodeck games from now on ^^.
        >[Kid plays game for over 1h]
        >[coded in trigger activates]
        >[game starts to slowly turn into nightmare fuel and child trauma]
        >Kid stops the program and gets nightmares from it for days
        >MOM I do not want to play holodeck games from now on.
        >I want only to go to school
        OK sunshine do whatever you want. No games from now on ^^.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine this but you also get your dick sucked

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Imagine this but you also get your dick sucked
        What are you?
        Some kind of puritan?
        Dick sucking?
        Is this a nunnery?

        No child they pump pure dopamine into your brain 24/7.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This can only be a reality for people that are invested into ~~*modern technology*~~. It's still a choice. While souless corporations make souless slop with AI, us real people can make real creations for humans to enjoy.

      As long as we have arms, we can bang as much as we want on objects and call it music, and we can draw squiggles on surfaces and call it art. The desire to create can never be taken away from us!

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hedonism being the guiding principle in creating anything due to the commodification of tech.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    J

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The futurists didn't take into account increased consumption and most of the population becoming useless eaters, with productive wagies needing to take up the slack.

    Also they and you overestimate what automation can do without true AI. Most trchbros are just selling bullshit to VCs, apart from some true believers.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >implying AI won't do your meaningless tedium cubicle job
    And the only reason books/music/TV writing is vulnerable to replacement by AI is because the people doing it now are doing such an awful job of it.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Automation has freed us from lots of meaningless tedium. But people love climbing the hedonistic treadmill and need more.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How to spot and remover tracker in a motorcycle? It needs battery so I'm guessing it's next to the wires

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, the standard for music/books/films/vidya has been in decline for years now, no wonder "AI" can replace the "Artists"
    If anything i think it will lead to an increase in the standards of quality products, while moronic shit like BBwiener netflix series or mobile games will become even worse
    After the AI hypetrain i became even more appreciative of quality human artwork tbtbh and i'm probably not the only one

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can't make a profit from the first one

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't bother me, I am already a plumber, i.e. one of the last jobs to be replaced. Money is good too. Yahoo!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Yahoo!
      OK Super mario.
      > i.e. one of the last jobs to be replaced.
      So you are saying you will be one of the last humans who the robots put to the extermination wall? This is good how?
      >First they came for the artists and I did shit on the artists because I'm not an artist.
      >Then they did come for the drivers and I did shit on the drivers because I'm not a driver.
      >Then they came for the Amazon workers and I did shit on the Amazon workers because I'm not a Amazon workers.
      >Then they came for the plumbers and there was no one to speak up for me.

      > plumber, i.e. one of the last jobs to be replaced. M
      And what makes you sure of this?

      >plumber
      Sounds like some dystopian movie.
      Actually STOP They made a outer limits episode out of this plot.
      Low skill human is used and ordered to replace parts the machines can not fix while they are in control.
      https://theouterlimits.fandom.com/wiki/The_Human_Operators
      Your version is what? The last plumber to serve the machines empire before he is executed?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >First they came for the artists and I did shit on the artists because I'm not an artist.
        >Then they did come for the drivers and I did shit on the drivers because I'm not a driver.
        >Then they came for the Amazon workers and I did shit on the Amazon workers because I'm not a Amazon workers.
        >Then they stopped coming for people, because everyone left did actual work.

        Currently also working on getting a certificate for terrazzo flooring, the money you can make with that probably puts a lot of senior software engineers to shame.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Currently
          Say that in 100 years.
          >Currently
          You literally are to moronic to understand what I posted.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I won't be around in a 100 years babe. I just install toilets, showers, tile, etc and soon will create some beautiful terrazzo floors.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I won't be around in a 100 years babe.
            Cool.
            >I do not give a shit about the future generation! Give me money and the world can burn.
            Explain to everyone why you should not be lynched to death right now?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Explain to everyone why you should not be lynched to death right now?
            That wouldn't be very Christian sir. You don't like terrazzo?

            Do you also care this much about the Rwandan or Armenian genocide? Your concerns feel so manufactured.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Explain to everyone why you should not be lynched to death right now?
            Who elected you leader of the lynch mob?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            God, people like you are fricking insufferable. You should at least THINK about whether these half-baked ideas of yours are worth defending to the bitter end instead of just moving the goal posts.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I do not give a shit about the future generation! Give me money and the world can burn.
            But that's.. the normal way of thinking?

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Conspiracy theories speak more to people's feelings of helplessness than anything indicative of reality.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Either we get UBI or someone will create a LLM that emulates Lenin and will lead the starving masses of wagies displaced by AI against the elites.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Either we get UBI or
        How about you get more propaganda, the MSM laying about how many unemployed NEETs there are and after your mother dies you get thrown on the streets and have a starving existence and then die childless?

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are we eating the rich or what?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Leftists pretended to say that for the last eight years and ended up sucking their boots off the hardest

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Der Judenschwein

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    capitalism, and it has always been wrong.
    also, those 60s futurists were mostly hippies or leftists. the 2020 tech bros are greedy lolbertarians (aka right-wing "anarchists", a made up concept, stolen from the left) that only pretend to care about the people.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    remember techbros are also deeply against the scientific method, so they are constantly sabotaging the advances they want in the long turn. They think science and tech development as an stunt show, instead of a long accumulative effort

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Moravec's paradox is the observation in artificial intelligence and robotics that, contrary to traditional assumptions, reasoning requires very little computation, but sensorimotor and perception skills require enormous computational resources. The principle was articulated by Hans Moravec, Rodney Brooks, Marvin Minsky and others in the 1980s. Moravec wrote in 1988, "it is comparatively easy to make computers exhibit adult level performance on intelligence tests or playing checkers, and difficult or impossible to give them the skills of a one-year-old when it comes to perception and mobility".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec%27s_paradox

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's simple anon. It's always greed. People always want a different answer but it really is that simple.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >automate menial jobs, frick those people mopping the floor and mowing our lawn, it's not like they have bills to pay
    Boy, I hate artists so much it is unreal.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Boy, I hate artists so much it is unreal.
      I see.

      >I want to mop the floor for the rest of my life
      The idea was that you do creative things with your life like learn music or something.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That was just the assumption because creative pursuits were seen as special, something that couldn't be replicated by machines. Turns out it's easier to replace an artist than a janitor

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >artists
      >"learn to code"
      That was journalists. Why do you people keep falsely attributing this to artists?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So they can have arguments for AI and ragebait and so others can in turn have counter arguments and ragebait. So it's the same reason why periodically ragebait threads get reposted. Most obvious on /b/ with bbc threads but happens here as well.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So they can have arguments for AI and ragebait and so others can in turn have counter arguments and ragebait. So it's the same reason why periodically ragebait threads get reposted. Most obvious on /b/ with bbc threads but happens here as well.

        *liberal arts graduates

        aka academics, journalists, artists, entertainers, comedians, agitators, corporate police

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You really missed my point

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    turns out the things people like to do are easy but the things that people don't like doing are hard (to automate)

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing. Anyone wanting to creat is free to. The people who really wanted money are impure, not doing art for the love of art. If youre real life is just books, music and television only the books may have value if they're non-fiction.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    techbro is such a homosexual twitter word

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Found the techbro let's ask him what the hottest javascript framework is this month

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if you get offended by a word meant to offend people being insufferable homosexuals, you may be one of them

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know. It's obviously trying to make out like the people who actually know shit about technology and are trying to push back against corporations misusing it to make things worse for everyone else are just "ignorant worshipers" of tech, like wanting to make sure open source tools are available for everyone to use, so that corps don't lock shit down to their advantage, is pushed as being a position of the "ethically ignorant" nerd.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand the point of the second sentence and why its a bad thing. Is it implying we used to make our own movies and entertainment when we get home from work?

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    naggers
    tunnel makers

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Both are technological systems controlling your life more and more. The 60s even moreso tinging on a string to prevent chaos.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    instead of making bad art, can't technbros use Ai to make good asian language translators?
    I'm fricking sick of translating chinese shit only to get pure gibberish

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    twitter-like bait
    Reducing meaningless tedium and freeing your time for higher-level tasks is exactly what AI/automation does. AI doesn't do the creative part for you, even AGI wouldn't because humans simply don't think AI has anything meaningful to say.
    The problem is that people always find ways to enter another grinding loop as the incentives are built that way.

    [...]

    >Moravec's paradox is the observation in artificial intelligence and robotics that, contrary to traditional assumptions, reasoning requires very little computation, but sensorimotor and perception skills require enormous computational resources. The principle was articulated by Hans Moravec, Rodney Brooks, Marvin Minsky and others in the 1980s. Moravec wrote in 1988, "it is comparatively easy to make computers exhibit adult level performance on intelligence tests or playing checkers, and difficult or impossible to give them the skills of a one-year-old when it comes to perception and mobility".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec%27s_paradox

    Moravec's paradox is misguided. There's literally zero difference between reasoning and sensorimotor skills, it's a homogenous space in which all behavior is the same. Moravec's paradox was formulated in 80's and reflected the mistaken beliefs of that time; it doesn't hold true in reality.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >AI doesn't do the creative part for you
      This, without a human component leveraging AI there is no creative output. People will argue that just shitting out a simple picture can be done by a moronic monkey, that's true. As soon as you attempt to leverage it do anything more complex, the requirements become much more extreme.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Moravec's paradox is the observation in artificial intelligence and robotics that, contrary to traditional assumptions, reasoning requires very little computation, but sensorimotor and perception skills require enormous computational resources. The principle was articulated by Hans Moravec, Rodney Brooks, Marvin Minsky and others in the 1980s. Moravec wrote in 1988, "it is comparatively easy to make computers exhibit adult level performance on intelligence tests or playing checkers, and difficult or impossible to give them the skills of a one-year-old when it comes to perception and mobility".

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec%27s_paradox

      Moravec's paradox is a basic observation made decades ago, don't overthink it. What's really required is an equivalent of Kolmogorov complexity for machine learning, and I can guarantee that such metric will be entirely different than the naive motorics/decisions separation Moravec made.

      And yeah, I agree about diffusion models, even the ones that are much smaller than image-generation counterparts make robotic movement trivial, so the Moravec's paradox clearly falls short here. Multimodal visual models also do great in computer vision.

      Both are nowhere nearly enough creative, though. It's one thing to move your arms and legs or make a rehash of the pictures you've seen. And entirely another to play generalized soccer or to create meaningful art.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >basically robotics (really anything involving interaction with the physical world) turned out to be really difficult
    that's bullshit and you have no idea you're talking about

    meanwhile in reality the same architectures that reach SotA for symbolic manipulation reach SotA for control and perception systems (for example diffusion models)

    moreover, things like neural SLAM are EXACTLY the fricking same as the "symbolic manipulation", despite being "robotics".

    what's really hard is topological and multidimensional complexity; that's why moving an arm (robotics) is as easy for a diffusion model as drawing a semi-convincing picture (symbol manipulation), but topological SLAM is as hard as generating 3D meshes (which is much harder than generating semi-convincing text). This is also a reason why the current models lack creativity.

    [...]

    shut up Black person, you have 0 clue about the matter

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >1960's Futurists:
    Naive idealists who believed that people free of tedious labor will all become artists and poets
    >2020's Techbros
    Realists who understand that 99% of people will just torture each other and cut each other throats like the animals they are, if left restriction-free

    pic related is futurism from 1971, fairly accurate to human nature

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please don't tell you actually believe this

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Internet provided an infinite learning resource. People also got way more free time on their hands due to automation. Did all people suddenly became more creative due to all that? The percentage stays about the same, and there's also a saturation point past which there's just too much creative shit to deal with.
        The majority is better off being distracted. Those who aren't aimless and feel the need will get rid of distractions.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it doesnt matter that the Internet provides free learning resources as every job is gated by traditional educational institutionals

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What does that even mean? When did anyone need a degree to become an artist or a writer? And lots of people have degrees, they never become more creative.
            Point is, you need an entry barrier low enough to jump over with reasonable effort, yet high enough to keep out people who aren't motivated enough. Otherwise it will drown everything in the sea of mediocre shit

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There are things that can be learned as far as drawing. Ic recommind Loomis books is a meme. For whatever reason though the art teachers will teach frick all.
            T.took some drawing classes in community college

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What does that even mean?
            What it means is that your skills matter a little, the only thing that matters is that your institutional record is in order.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The internet exists and we're not all artists therefore almost everyone will just torture everyone else if they are not wagies

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      15 year old hands wrote this post

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please don't tell you actually believe this

      15 year old hands wrote this post

      NTA, reality is actually much closer to pic than to any sci-fi.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      very easy to be an idealist in an age when the nation was unified culturally sans Black folks and their few supporters. meanwhile in the era of modern schizophrenic diverse hellworld, very easy to be a cynic. we were at a crossroads in that age, and we chose 'invade the world, invite the world' instead of 'build a better tomorrow'.

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    people don't like change

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not even. Books, music and TV are going to decline into nothing (human or AI made) because of government and corporate restrictions both legally and financially to torture you into working while shutting down your outlets and distractions.
    AI is literally the only way to stop these frickers now. It terrifies politicians and financial rackets, they might lose their power.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >to focus on creative pursuits
    >what went wrong ?

    Absolutely nothing

    I consider prompting, inpainting, and using control-net as a form of creative expression
    >why
    artists always had people which were completing drafts or filling keyframes

    it's just that now these people were replaced by a computer

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you seriously think peomting is at the same level as painting or any other creative effort that means you're a soulless bugman.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing? They automated the majority of meaningless tedium in the rest of the 20th cemtury.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Says more about ”media” than anything else. Maybe it will do us a favor and get rid of pseudo artists

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Majority of the population were still farmers. They even raised rabbits in the backyard for food and fur.

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    but cubicles don't really exist nowadays since they're "too expensive"

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >techbro
    >cryptobro
    >aibro
    I don't want to hear anyone cry misogyny anymore when these are the default "insults" people throw out to describe "money-adjacent male-dominated space that I don't understand"

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are decades when nothing happens and there are weeks where decades happen

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >2040
    We're building AI to do all the meaningless tedium jobs AND doing all the creative works. You can just sit back and relax and live a live without purpose.

    Oh you want purpose? We can do that, we can create a faux company for you to do your work that may arouse some value in you.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You can only have purpose through art or your job
      Total state of atheism

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who understood AI and how hard it is to automate bipedal motion should have known that this was going to be how things would shake down. That said, the idea that AI is going to create all of the art and that people will just suddenly lose meaning in their lives is fricking moronic. The only type of people I see complaining about AI being able to do art are
    >motherfrickers who have never done anything artistic in their lives
    >motherfrickers who make money selling hand-drawn smut or doing shitty commissions
    It's only morons who care or get upset about this shit. Computers have trivialized chess, but tons of people still play and study chess. Computers can play sheet music down to the fricking nano-second but people still learn to play instruments. There are tons of things that computers can do about 1,000,000 times better than any human but suddenly now that it can draw people are upset? Fricking moronic.

    If a computer doing something better than you makes your "lose your motivation" to do that thing, you're going to be extremely fricked in the next 15 years because computers will be better at just about everything by that time.

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Both are good. Machine, wash my cloths and make my food. Machine, create me a song that you know I will like and generate a video for it too.

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thats not the way art works. With Art, you do it for yourself only, as a way of expression. There is a difference between expression and consumption

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What went wrong?
    Any idea that begins with, "[something] will free mankind."

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Artists have been getting raped since the invention of photography and now they're getting raped without lube. All the arts are being automated first.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you don't do Art for money, you idiot. And, AI art isn't good and has many themes that you wont be able to explore because of "politics"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you don't do Art for money, you idiot.
        you do realize most great artwork was done for payment right. the sistine chapel was a commission

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Great artwork is whatever you personally make for yourself in order to express yourself,

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon I don't know what you're talking about. Even if the art is not for money it's for impressing people.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            art is not "for impressing people".

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for me, it's 1920's futurists.

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't be too hard on emotion - and soulless lump of flesh they can't relate to being human.

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It turns out the "meaningless tedium" part is boring to program, while making funny pictures makes headlines and attracts attention from VC's.

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Top is communism. Bottom is crapitalism.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      China is famously free of meaningless tedium you're right

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