What's the best version of "Scholar Society" in history?

What's the best version of "Scholar Society" in history?

For example, the medieval scholastic monks or the ancient Chinese philosopher cliques

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > For example, the medieval scholastic monks or the ancient Chinese philosopher cliques
    Neither of those were scholar societies, I’m not sure you understand what you’re asking for.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What were they then?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The former were asylums for gay sons of the nobility to keep them out of sight. The latter were legit cults on the level of the worse we see today. Neither were real bastions of knowledge or reasoning.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Eurocentric

          Seethe

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your biases will die with you and not survive into the new world we’re creating

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Your biases will die with you and not survive into the new world we’re creating

            Most people aren't going to die in a collapsing "tofu" high rise building in China...
            Just saying.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The reason that’s not going to happen is because your racist propaganda doesn’t reflect reality in China

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Back during the high or late middle ages, if one was well-off enough, they had two main choices. One could become a monk and receive an education enough to become literate, and to even become a theologian or priest, or one could attend one of the early universities of those times, possibly also a route towards a clerical career, but the more secular humanities were gaining traction from the high middle ages into the renaissance era.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Eurocentric

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It seems everything is just Business orientated now.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mercantilist degeneracy is the curse of long-lived bloodlines.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They should be literal Kings but instead they are "Investment Bankers".

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’ll be a cold day in hell before I allow a Bonaparte back on the throne

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why do modern monarchists cuck themselves this badly over rich men?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Explain.

            You think there is a hundred year gap between a cuck and his progenitor?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Russia is a federation not a republic.
            Switzerland is a confederation not a republic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Odd you speak so confidently with words you do not yourself understand

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Brit has a Henry Cavill look to him while the Frank has that Gaston look to him

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Life imitates Art

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Plato’s Academy of course

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Korean scholars specifically in the 15th century. They had insane level of patronige and power for anyone with understanding of cannon making, gunpowder and agricultural science and the kings such as Sejong and his son Munjong personally butted heads with the royal court to keep them out of aristocratic jealousy. Merit was especially of importance especially when the some slave engineer broke several social conventions and became engineer at court and a freeman and later chief engineer due to his merit.

    At least at this initial period of the Joseon Dynasty Korean kings were inspired by the foundation philosphy that "States and Majesty must only exist for the common men".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Weren’t they just an expy of Chinese scholars?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Scholar-literati officials literally ran China during the Song dynasty and relegated the Emperor to a figurehead

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You mean the wienerless men??

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chinese Neo Confucian writers already knew and studied Mencius and had their new schools of thought, most particularly Zhu Xi who already established the foundation of what government ought to do. Koreans didn't have a Zhu Xi and was reintroduced to Mencius 200 years after Zhu Xi.

        Because of that, how Do Jeon (the founding member) interpreted Mencius became different, particularly because the despotic hellhole ruled by tyrant barons and monks he was born in inspired an incredible unjust sense of the world.

        TL:DR same origins but different interpretations and focus

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why do you think those nobles were worse than the others?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do Jeon was a descendant of a slave and was treated as such even after he passed the exams. He witnessed the 5 wars (Red Turban invasions, Northern yuan invasions, Kyushu Invasions, Jurchen Invasions, Revolts of the Pro Yuan Barons) of the last three decades of the Goryeo regime and saw the court fall apart.

            The six wars gave unparalleled private military ownership to the common nobility and they extracted all the wealth out of the peasantry to fund their campaigns although successful; never had any gains from the fact the army returned from their land gains only to fight another enemy. Atleast after Imjin Joseon had a decade of peace goryeo did not have that.

            It was a saying that peasants prefered pirates murdering them over soldiers starving them because the pain would end.

            The monks leeched off the left overs and funded their private estates (which is why buddhism was nearly annihilated in Joseon)

            The once meritous Emperor became mad from the grief of his wife and became a hysteric despot, which execerbated the power of the nobility.

            The court became a warground between the Traditionalists, the Ming Supporters and the Conquest supporters.

            Even after Joseon was established, Do jeon himself was killed in an accusation of corruption and it took two more princely revolts to complete annihilate the clannish Goryeo Nobility and usher an age of peace for Sejong to rule over.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And even after then the court nobles didnt realise their scope of power. Sejong himself was so outraged by the nature of the nobility one day he trapped the nobles and the Ming Diplomat in the court room, dorned the imperial robes stained by Do Jeons blood and threathened to execute everyone for treason

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based 선비

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why the dumb hats?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RAND Corporation

    the CIA (literally) and everything in northern virginia

    pre-venture capitalism silicon valley, but only the white parts

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those don’t strike me as very scholarly

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