When did you realise there are basically just two linux distros?

When did you realise there are basically just two linux distros?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just before I realised there is only one distro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      whoops, wrong pic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      after comparing them to everything I've ever used. Debian and Arch murder 'em all, they juzt work

      This is what I landed on too. Debian for servers, arch for laptops/desktops.

      Based and correct, my desktop uses Arch and my server uses Debian and my opinions are always objectively correct.

      >debian
      thesis

      >arch
      antithesis

      >nix
      synthesis

      useless

      [...]
      fine

      >nixxers

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    after comparing them to everything I've ever used. Debian and Arch murder 'em all, they juzt work

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is what I landed on too. Debian for servers, arch for laptops/desktops.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can't run Debian for over a week. there's always something that pushes me out, from dumb decisions like /sbin not included in PATH by default, to packages having hard dependencies bc the maintainers can't bother to do things right.

        >does some effort stabilizing things before pushing them out.
        No it doesn't.

        Have you ever tried tumbleweed? shit isnt just pushed without a care into testing and then pushed to the main repo automatically after a bit like it happens in Arch. the packages NEED to pass certain tests before being pushed.
        Same happens with Fedora. Arch is the only bleeding edge distro that does fricking nothing to stabilize things.
        This is why manjaro imports everything from Arch into a "testing" repo so that they can at least do some automatic testing, which Arch doesnt even do.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the packages NEED to pass certain tests before being pushed
          >Arch is the only bleeding edge distro that does fricking nothing to stabilize things
          Arch has testing policies.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Such as?
            and no, waiting 48hr in "testing" while nobody complains does not count.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The same as any other rolling distribution. Tumbleweed does not care if a program contains a bug, as long as it is able to build, execute and there are no dependency errors. Bugs are a natural part of software development. Arch is the same way. There are countless packages in Tumbleweed that are, from the user face, considered unstable. Ardour, Hyprland, Plasma, Pinta, to name just a few popular packages. The idea that any rolling distribution that prioritizes the latest stable upstream release of software "fixes" the software itself is completely false.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is what I landed on too. Debian for servers, arch for laptops/desktops.

      Arch for fun, debian for work.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    archlinux = jobless homosexual rice distro
    debian = based stable hardworking man's distro

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Left looks like pizza slide
    >Right looks like pedo swirl symbol
    Really makes you think

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pizza

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        digits fren

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm moronic and I use Mint/Kubuntu.

    They just werk

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >just after i realize arch is garbage for tinkerers because the main branch will send broken commits to users
    >just after i realize debian is so ancient most apps lack basic bug fixes
    i settled with tumbleweed but i would not die on the hill for them, i found to be the most function distro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As someone who used to be on tumbleweed i gotta agree with this.
      Is nice, just works and unlike Arch which pushes untested broken commits tumbleweed does some effort stabilizing things before pushing them out.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >does some effort stabilizing things before pushing them out.
        No it doesn't.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As someone who used to be on tumbleweed i gotta agree with this.
      Is nice, just works and unlike Arch which pushes untested broken commits tumbleweed does some effort stabilizing things before pushing them out.

      tumbleweed and gentoo were my stable, good linux experiences that I mained for months

      arch always seems to have a problem with some bleeding edge DE bugs or something

      i use windows 10 iot enterprise now on my main machine. void linux on laptop, which is extremely stable. similar philosophy to tumbleweed

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >void linux [...] similar philosophy to tumbleweed

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >just two linux distros
    mfw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I feel you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >debian
      thesis

      >arch
      antithesis

      >nix
      synthesis

      useless

      >just after i realize arch is garbage for tinkerers because the main branch will send broken commits to users
      >just after i realize debian is so ancient most apps lack basic bug fixes
      i settled with tumbleweed but i would not die on the hill for them, i found to be the most function distro

      fine

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This whole meme on nix needs to stop.
        Nobody uses it unironically.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i do. no idea why it's considered a meme os it literally just werks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just two linux distros
      Yeah, Slackware and Gentoo

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Arch with cinnamon or Linux mint? What would you choose?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What would you choose?
      AlmaLinux with Mate

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How is AlmaLinux nowadays? How do you deal with the EPEL's version upgrade breakages? IIRC you can't use BTRFS snapshots.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Between those two? Linux Mint.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cinnamon is broken on Arch out of the box.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Explain

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Potato PC/laptop
      Mint
      >Decent PC/laptop
      Arch

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use whatever is going to let me get shit done. arch was my choice but i have 3 servers that run debian and 2 others arch. at the end of the day use what gets the job done.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So you're either using a rolling release which breaks because packages are too new or a stable release whose packages are too old your system can't run things. Why do you think Debian has to backport changes, cuz they are too stable.

    Change this to Fedora which never breaks and has recent packages.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, there's a reason fedora is the most used distro among kernel devs.
      It actually works and manages to stay up-to-date

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So you're either using a rolling release which breaks because packages are too new or a stable release whose packages are too old your system can't run things. Why do you think Debian has to backport changes, cuz they are too stable.

        Change this to Fedora which never breaks and has recent packages.

        Imagine using a Linux distro that has Fed in its name

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine caring about something so inane

          The same as any other rolling distribution. Tumbleweed does not care if a program contains a bug, as long as it is able to build, execute and there are no dependency errors. Bugs are a natural part of software development. Arch is the same way. There are countless packages in Tumbleweed that are, from the user face, considered unstable. Ardour, Hyprland, Plasma, Pinta, to name just a few popular packages. The idea that any rolling distribution that prioritizes the latest stable upstream release of software "fixes" the software itself is completely false.

          Thats one way of ignoring the question an argument entirely. Anyways nobody is arguing that one can stabilize software 100%, all im saying is that in comparison the amount of effort put into it is nothing for Arch.

          I wanna switch from Nubuntu and I don't know which one to choose.
          Does arch really break or is it a meme?
          And does debian being so old have any real effect on things?
          I mainly use my PC for internet, games and coding.

          If you are comfy in Ubuntu, why switch?
          Seriously ask yourself that.
          As for Debian, thats literally in their wiki, their packages might be old, but that does not mean they are not usable, generally speaking most things should work just fine. The only thing i could imagine is maybe trying a binary compiled with a way newer glibc and gcc won't work, but thats why every distro recompiles everything and why you should use their repos.

          The lead maintainer for the stable kernel uses Arch. People use Fedora because of the Red Hat ecosystem, and because many contributors are also Red Hat employees.

          Last i checked Greg used tumbleweed.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >all im saying is that in comparison the amount of effort put into it is nothing for Arch.
            Give an example of the effort tumbleweed devs go through to make sure packages are more "stable" than what Arch does. A package sitting in a respository for an extra week doesn't mean bugs will magically disappear.
            Both tumbleweed and arch guidelines state that any kind of stability or security patch from upstream is to be applied.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You whole argument is "tumbleweed ships bugs too." and nobody is disagreeing with you on that.

            But as you said, sitting more time in a repo does not magically resolve bugs, but it does give more time for people to try it out and report, which does happen, on top of that there's that server farm running and testing the software automatically, SuSE' money has advantages.
            But since you want an actual example, what the dedicated testing core team? members run factory and once a package gets validate its allowed to move to tumbleweed

            >Last i checked Greg used tumbleweed.
            Greg used to use tumbleweed, he swapped to Arch 4-5 years ago.
            https://linux.slashdot.org/story/19/09/02/0018252/greg-kroah-hartman-reveals-his-new-favorite-linux-distro
            Why? Because it's community based and apolitical, there's no corporate structure sitting behind Arch like there is for SuSE.

            This is news to me...
            Oh well my bad, i should have double checked.

            >If you are comfy in Ubuntu, why switch?
            Because I am not
            It's literal shit
            Broke twice when I first installed it and tried to update and had to reinstall
            Then a mate told me to never use the software center and use the terminal to update and install stuff
            Then why does it even exist?
            LTS btw

            I am surprised of your experience... may i ask, what did you try to install that broke everything?

            Anyways since you want something that just works, try Debian then, as i said, old packages shouldnt be a problem, in many cases is just a number.
            Check this if you end up trying Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
            Take an extra look at the "Don't suffer from Shiny New Stuff Syndrome" part

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Last i checked Greg used tumbleweed.
            Greg used to use tumbleweed, he swapped to Arch 4-5 years ago.
            https://linux.slashdot.org/story/19/09/02/0018252/greg-kroah-hartman-reveals-his-new-favorite-linux-distro
            Why? Because it's community based and apolitical, there's no corporate structure sitting behind Arch like there is for SuSE.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If you are comfy in Ubuntu, why switch?
            Because I am not
            It's literal shit
            Broke twice when I first installed it and tried to update and had to reinstall
            Then a mate told me to never use the software center and use the terminal to update and install stuff
            Then why does it even exist?
            LTS btw

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The lead maintainer for the stable kernel uses Arch. People use Fedora because of the Red Hat ecosystem, and because many contributors are also Red Hat employees.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Years ago, boomer here.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People who think redhat/fedora distros are dead because of IBM are morons.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wanna switch from Nubuntu and I don't know which one to choose.
    Does arch really break or is it a meme?
    And does debian being so old have any real effect on things?
    I mainly use my PC for internet, games and coding.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's mainly a meme, for me it's been fine for ages. just don't be an idiot and break it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Does arch really break or is it a meme?
      sometimes there are small breakages, but they are always easy fixes, and if you have a 'standard' install with no interesting extras going on you will have a very stable experience
      in my experience, if you run a slow distro, you can get stuck with bugs that you have to live with until the next big release, and it's just no fun, whereas bugs come fast and die fast on arch

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Arch has great games support thanks to steam so I'd go the arch route.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Actually everything is just Gentoo but prepared for your smolbrain to digest.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been running a single debian testing install since 2012. Before that I was running xubuntu.
    I kind of miss ppas. Compiling (or just sticking binaries from the net somewhere) current-er software for debian is necessary a lot of the time and over a decade you start forgetting what you did or didn't do outside the package manager.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every time I use arch (or any rolling release) it's one issue after another, packages break and you search the problem on github, find an open issue with 500+ thumbs up and 0 fix.

    Software needs to be extensively unit and e2e tested before being released for the end user, it shouldn't be the end user's problem to fix things, therefore Debian stable is the only distro that properly does this. I install Debian and it lasts for years without issue. I install Arch and it breaks in a month.

    There are other annoyances. No globbing in pacman, no real file format for packages (like .deb or .rpm), having to install from CLI for no reason so you can't live boot it without using a 3rd party installer, terrible support for other architectures. The wiki is good but usually it's better to just read official documentation.

    Imo use Debian and if you want the latest version of something or wanna use the aur use distrobox.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the use-case for running Debian instead of LMDE?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      On the desktop? When you want to use a DE different than cinnamon
      Everything else? Afaik LMDE only ships a live image with calamares, so you really can't use it outside the desktop. Debian however has a full fledged installer that allows you to install Debian however you want, mininalistic, bloated, whatever. On servers without a DE, IoT machines, etc.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    endeavour os gay here, should i switch to debian?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    about one year ago
    i use arch, my wife uses debian
    arch is boys, debian is for girls

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me it's Yggdrasil Linux/GNU/X.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Arch and Debian are my two favorite distros!

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been using Ubuntu for 16 years and I'm not going to change now.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    two trash distros for 10iq homies

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The people saying arch breaks are inexperienced and probably installing garbage third party apps or just straight up messing up their install. I've been using it 10 years and I have never had any issues. The install is a bit longer but how many times do you need to install your os?

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