When I see this meme I wonder what Saint Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, and Duns Scotus would say.

When I see this meme I wonder what Saint Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, and Duns Scotus would say. What are their metaphysics?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Democritus got it right

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He was vindicated 2300 years later

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Democritus got it right

        No he wasn't.
        There is no indivisible particle substance.

        Also Wittgenstein was what we today call a "heckin love soience" reductionist pseud in that phase.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not entirely. He is certainly where the terminology we use comes form, but his theories are effectively just elementalism but "what if everything had a bunch of indivisible elements like water or fire only not just water and fire?"
      And when you get to stuff like subatomic particles, he's wrong.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        But he didn't have to get subatomic, anon. We needed atoms for usable chemistry. Below that we are talking alchemy.
        Nobody with 400 BC tech is making a nuclear reactor but they should have been good for breaking water into hydrogen and oxygen.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          [samehomosexual] Alternative history idea:

          Democritus' ideas lead to serious chemistry and a periodic table in Greece - better, in Syracuse (magna-graeca). Syracuse conquers a Sicilian Empire over all the Med, but collapses before getting to quantum mechanics.
          Now there's gunpowder and even rockets 500 AD, but... nobody will go further into quantum, because the Periodic Table is holy writ.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If atoms are divisible, subatomic particles are the next atom.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          But the entire point of 'atoms' is that indivisible particles make up the material universe we interact with, but the reality is the matter we commonly interact with is quite divisible. So atomism is wrong, even if we have a class of matter known as 'atoms'.

          I know this doesn't make sense for a moron, but there is a difference. It'd be as if we had atoms, but then those atoms in turn were made of up ideas or something. The fact is they are divisible.

          • 2 months ago
            Dionysus-Priopos

            divide a quark or photon you dork

            but for real the nature of the universe seems to be entirely entangled and indivisible

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can divide photons all day. A top quark decays in 5×10^−25 s.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Democritus got it right

      just a lucky guess

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No he didn't heraclitus was right

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I frankly do wonder what Aquinas would think. If he knew about evolution, geology, modern cosmology and quantum mechanics. How would that affect his theology and then the historical effect it had.

      Did he think atoms were atoms as in today's atoms? Also atoms are made of even snaller things.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      no heraclitus was spot on
      everything is fire (energy)

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything is an emanation of the form of the one atomic waterfire gods minds ideas about the body of monadic nouma

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    LOL

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy fricking shit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no police
      what would kind of institution would it be replaced with?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        gang rape

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's amazing how the world has changed. Imagine saying this in the 90s. On some level I think they have a point because only a world with minimal crime can even contemplate these statements.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They left out the frowning, angry black man
          >Ayo gib me dat bicycle wyboi! Das rite das my bicycle now! I gots dem intergendernational traumas n sheit

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They either don't think that hard or want their own armed groups administering policing so they can persecuted their opponents

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They said in the tweets, an independent community defense organization like the Black Panthers.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >a left wing terror organization killing whites for fun
          Fixed that for you

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>a left wing terror organization killing whites for fun
            That's Nazi Germany though

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            WTF I love Natsee israelitemany now?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy fricking shit.

      >no police
      what would kind of institution would it be replaced with?

      https://i.imgur.com/sKGPN0r.jpg

      gang rape

      They either don't think that hard or want their own armed groups administering policing so they can persecuted their opponents

      Bizarre lefty nonsense yeah but what do you know about Thomas Aquinas' or Saint Augustine's metaphysics?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Saint Augustine would probably say something like “Its all Trinitarian”

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Something like "humans are mind, body, soul"? Does Augustine make a distinction between mind/intellect and soul?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is someone whose entire ideology revolves around hating their dad and their peers, and wanting the power to do awful shit to anyone who resembles them. This shit is exactly why all lefties should be thrown into death camps

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        personally I just think having law enforcement carried out by a full-time force of racist rightoids who mostly worry about property crime is a bad idea

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Having lived in multiple places where police don't care at all about property crime and instead arrest people for wrongspeak, chug bleach you absolute homosexual c**t

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Leftists always do stuff like suggesting we have race militias without considering that they're basically calling for the resurrection of the Klan if police abolition ever actually happened.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes
      Bring in the ancapistan-sponsored private security
      YES

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Abolish the police but first have them confiscate all our guns

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is the perfect example of the midwit personality type, the midwit par excellence. This person spends their time reading the works of great minds and learning the in-group mechanisms, and they STILL accept the most moronic of all falsehoods. This is proof that no amount of reading or education can induce critical thought. How sad!

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How does someone who obviously has a deep knowledge and respect for European philosophical tradition embrace nonsense politics
    Actually explain it
    When I see various academic creatures with stupid unworkable takes I know what they are (people who don't actually know or care about anything)
    I don't know how to reconcile someone who did all the reading and reaches these conclusions

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you referring to the person who made this comic, to Wittgenstein, something else?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        this is the person who makes these comics:

        https://i.imgur.com/qBd2Vop.png

        LOL

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I know, that's why I asked.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >thread about metaphysics
    >turns into muh leftists whiner thread
    man, this place got colonized hard by twitter

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're trans btw

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        mentally ill freak

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >completely white

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the difference between what Plotinus is saying and what Leibniz is saying in this meme? Isn't The One a monad? Why are Leibniz's monads plural?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bump for I still haven't received a satisfactory reply .

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Read

      https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/augustine/
      https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aquinas/
      https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/duns-scotus/

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think there's a far more important question that comes up.
    Why the frick is Ibn Rushd still referred to as Averroes?
    It's a personal name that's perfectly writable within the latin alphabet

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Averroes is easier to remember for English people than the aggressively Arabic name that is Ibn Rushd

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Karl Wittgenstein
    >According to a family tree prepared in Jerusalem after World War II, Wittgenstein's paternal great-great-grandfather was Moses Meier an Ashkenazi israeli land agent
    He was a israelite so whatever he said is irrelevant

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He literally fought against the Allies during ww2

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong Wittgenstein, the OP is Ludwig not Karl.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look, either things can be infinitely divided to increasingly smaller pieces OR there is an 'atom'
    This is a true dichotomy as far I understand. You don't need modern science to figure that out.
    This is still true even if matter is fields, or whatever

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Half of these guys are saying the same thing and Thales was talking about the makeup of the human body.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >save image
    >crop out last dude
    Perfect

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